I mean a plain old pdb for the switch.
No trimpots, no ic's, no CLR.
Just a plain pcb with holes for LED -, IN, OUT, and Ground, with the grounded lugs already linked.
More and more pcbs come with all that already. Just want something to make it look clean without adding the extra parts that I won't use.
https://aionelectronics.com/project/micro-3pdt-bypass/
Every color except green!
Pedal Parts Plus has one. I think Mammoth has one as well. You could always etch your own too.
There's a layout on oshpark I've bought before that someone shared.
Quote from: flanagan0718 on March 10, 2015, 07:58:05 PM
Pedal Parts Plus has one. I think Mammoth has one as well. You could always etch your own too.
I've never tried PPP's but in the following thread someone reported that they don't fit standard 3PDT switch lugs. Probably better to pass on theirs.
http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=17553.0
Thank you, gents!
I'll check PPP, always forget they have more than enclosures.
I'm so done with Mammoth.
Quote from: aion on March 10, 2015, 08:01:32 PM
Quote from: flanagan0718 on March 10, 2015, 07:58:05 PM
Pedal Parts Plus has one. I think Mammoth has one as well. You could always etch your own too.
I've never tried PPP's but in the following thread someone reported that they don't fit standard 3PDT switch lugs. Probably better to pass on theirs.
http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=17553.0
10-4
Quote from: aion on March 10, 2015, 07:57:17 PM
https://aionelectronics.com/product/micro-3pdt-bypass/
Every color except green!
Boom! You win.
Great, another place for me to buy PCBs I don't have enough time to build!
LMAO
Look in the oh park thread, there are basic ones there, I love them.
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Quote from: aion on March 10, 2015, 08:01:32 PM
Quote from: flanagan0718 on March 10, 2015, 07:58:05 PM
Pedal Parts Plus has one. I think Mammoth has one as well. You could always etch your own too.
I've never tried PPP's but in the following thread someone reported that they don't fit standard 3PDT switch lugs. Probably better to pass on theirs.
http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=17553.0
If those are the same I bought awhile back, they are for the pcb mount 3PDT switches.
Enlighten me, still have to strip all the wires, now have twice as many solder joints to make, looks like it's going to take more and longer heating to solder to the lugs then if just soldering a thin wire to a lug so more chance of buggering the switch. Is this entirely an aesthetic thing?
dave
I think neatness more then anything Dave. Hides some wires and you can solder in underneath the board. Like everything open to opinion of course!
My boards are pretty basic. You can leave off the CLR (instead of soldering to "led-" solder to the left lug of R1). Also they are pretty cheap at $1.20 AUD (~$1 usd) and will fit both solder lug and pcb lug pins. Sorry to flog my own wares, just thought it was appropriate to the topic!
http://www.diyguitarpedals.com.au/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=70
Bitcheslovemyswitches make one too.
Quote from: davent on March 10, 2015, 11:19:05 PM
Enlighten me, still have to strip all the wires, now have twice as many solder joints to make, looks like it's going to take more and longer heating to solder to the lugs then if just soldering a thin wire to a lug so more chance of buggering the switch. Is this entirely an aesthetic thing?
dave
For me, aesthetics is part of it, but if I'm building multiples, the benefit is that the wire lengths are all the same. Measure once, cut 40 of them, done. Saves a lot of time in the long run.
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Maybe I'm just a stingy bugger, but...
Quote from: alanp on March 11, 2015, 06:10:58 AM
Maybe I'm just a stingy bugger, but...
This is why i tried to make mine as small / cheap as possible, i tend to agree Alan, its just another expense.
Why isnt there an etchable 3pdt pcb available? Is it the pads for the 3pdt? Couldnt you just make massive oversized pads for the 3pdt lugs and use a standard drill bit (1.5-2mm) to drill them out? I'll look into making up an etchable version of my layout when i get a few moments.
https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/isbogS3B (https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/isbogS3B)
Simple, Chuckbuick made these..under a buck each..
Those ChuckBuick ones looks nice.
I like to use em (my own design) and its purely for aesthetic reasons TBH.
They keep things looking nice and neat.
I used to use two-part connectors on my boards to allow to separate the 3PDT switch from the FX PCB.
Haven't bothered with that for a long while though ;D
Quote from: davent on March 10, 2015, 11:19:05 PM
Enlighten me, still have to strip all the wires, now have twice as many solder joints to make, looks like it's going to take more and longer heating to solder to the lugs then if just soldering a thin wire to a lug so more chance of buggering the switch. Is this entirely an aesthetic thing?
dave
If you have to remove the PCB for some reason, you desolder wires from a PCB instead of from the switch. There is less chance of damaging the switch.
You also don't have to solder a resistor to the LED legs if the PCB doesn't include the CLR.
I would probably pay attention more to what I'm doing....maybe....
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If i need the pcb out I just remove the switch from the enclosure along with everything else, never considered detaching the switch.
Depending on the build the led can be either side of the switch so it's wiring migrates to the outside closests and also often orient the switch turned 90°... so nothing to be gained and just like alanp said...
dave
Quote from: midwayfair on March 11, 2015, 02:48:27 PM
Quote from: davent on March 10, 2015, 11:19:05 PM
Enlighten me, still have to strip all the wires, now have twice as many solder joints to make, looks like it's going to take more and longer heating to solder to the lugs then if just soldering a thin wire to a lug so more chance of buggering the switch. Is this entirely an aesthetic thing?
dave
If you have to remove the PCB for some reason, you desolder wires from a PCB instead of from the switch. There is less chance of damaging the switch.
You also don't have to solder a resistor to the LED legs if the PCB doesn't include the CLR.
Exactly this. Plus it gives a nice spot to mount the LED itself without resorting to a bezel.
Quote from: rullywowr on March 11, 2015, 10:44:22 PM
Quote from: midwayfair on March 11, 2015, 02:48:27 PM
Quote from: davent on March 10, 2015, 11:19:05 PM
Enlighten me, still have to strip all the wires, now have twice as many solder joints to make, looks like it's going to take more and longer heating to solder to the lugs then if just soldering a thin wire to a lug so more chance of buggering the switch. Is this entirely an aesthetic thing?
dave
If you have to remove the PCB for some reason, you desolder wires from a PCB instead of from the switch. There is less chance of damaging the switch.
You also don't have to solder a resistor to the LED legs if the PCB doesn't include the CLR.
Exactly this. Plus it gives a nice spot to mount the LED itself without resorting to a bezel.
This is the very first reason why I started using them when I first started building. I hate LED mounting. I am not a fan of bezels and did not like the look for hot glue. So using a daughter board to hold a LED in is a win in my book. Then I started realizing how much I hate offboard wiring and that was another reason to stay with the daughter board.
Cody
Not sure if theres an etchable 3pdt option. Anyway, wacked this together, haven't tested it but should work. Couple of small traces, should be ..ok.. for etching. Drill out 2mm holes for 3pdt holes. Will only fit PCB lug 3pdt's.
Let me know if anything needs adjusting.
My etchable one is located here: http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=15361.0 (http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=15361.0)
Cody
I like them and I am especially found of the 1776 ones.
At around $1.50 a piece, I don't see it as that much added expense. Unless of course you are selling a lot of pedals and trying to maximize profits.
For me, it also seems quicker than wiring a switch.