I'm working on a project that has LOTS of pots. Tayda's price for the 1900H clone (http://www.taydaelectronics.com/hardware/knobs-38/knob-davies-1900h-clone-black.html) is really cheap. Are they even worth buying? This will be a project that will be living on my workbench, not a pedal board. Still, if they don't at least have inserts, I'm not interested. Anyone have experience with these?
Not worth buying., IMHO. I bought some and tossed them aside in favor of better quality knobs.
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Ditto—they're wonky to work with. Your stuff is too good to use those!
Thanks guys. That's exactly what I needed to know.
Erthenvar's 1900h's are the best I've found so far.
I've had problems with them as well. I'm not sure of the quality of the 1900Hs from BLMS but I've been very happy with the other knobs I've bought from them, might be worth a try and the pricing is similar to Tayda.
Bought some, never even tried to use any, so in addition to poor quality the colouring and material they are made from are wretched. i keep them around as a reminder to why i should never order them again.
dave
Dont do it man
They are junk! I find that most of the 1900 style knobs are trash...but metal set screws into plastic knobs, doomed for failure. The better ones I've heard of are the ones from Smallbear or BLMS (i've used the BLMS ones and had good luck).
http://erthenvar.com/store/accessories/knobs/mini-fluted-knobs (http://erthenvar.com/store/accessories/knobs/mini-fluted-knobs)
(http://erthenvar.com/store/image/cache/data/mini_knobs_black_1-228x228.jpg)
Metal inserts.
The setscrews and threads don't strip unless you're King Kong.
Quote from: alanp on April 07, 2015, 12:44:43 AM
http://erthenvar.com/store/accessories/knobs/mini-fluted-knobs (http://erthenvar.com/store/accessories/knobs/mini-fluted-knobs)
(http://erthenvar.com/store/image/cache/data/mini_knobs_black_1-228x228.jpg)
Metal inserts.
The setscrews and threads don't strip unless you're King Kong.
Yeah, those look perfect. If the ones at BLMS have the brass inserts like these, they're a screamer of a deal @ $.43
The sublime.
Quote from: alanp on April 07, 2015, 12:44:43 AM
http://erthenvar.com/store/accessories/knobs/mini-fluted-knobs (http://erthenvar.com/store/accessories/knobs/mini-fluted-knobs)
(http://erthenvar.com/store/image/cache/data/mini_knobs_black_1-228x228.jpg)
Metal inserts.
The setscrews and threads don't strip unless you're King Kong.
I don't think the BLMS ones have the brass inserts here is what he has to say about them
"Just OK Knobs. Great Price. They fit like a glove on 1/4" smooth shaft pots.
These are cheaply made so they usually work fine 3 out of 4 times. Sometimes the set screw will strip with very little pressure which leads to more creative measures like using glue or something else to keep them on. I recommend buying a few extra in anticipation for problems down the road."
So probably not what you are looking for but I would bet they are better than the tayda 1900H clones
Quote from: Luke51411 on April 07, 2015, 01:00:45 AM
I don't think the BLMS ones have the brass inserts here is what he has to say about them
"Just OK Knobs. Great Price. They fit like a glove on 1/4" smooth shaft pots.
These are cheaply made so they usually work fine 3 out of 4 times. Sometimes the set screw will strip with very little pressure which leads to more creative measures like using glue or something else to keep them on. I recommend buying a few extra in anticipation for problems down the road."
So probably not what you are looking for but I would bet they are better than the tayda 1900H clones
LOL. At least Laurence is an honest guy. :D
I think I'll try the erthenvars or just stick with PPP/SB, since the prices are all pretty much the same. I've never looked back, after springing for quality parts in a build, and said to myself, "Dang, I should have cheaped out a bit more on the parts."
Erthenvar are also great for 3.5mm patch cords, all manner of 3.5mm jacks, and miscellaneous hardware. (Bought my Eurorack rails from Elby Designs, though, still have to make a cab for them.)
Sorry for the derail!
That's a great link Alan, thanks for sharing! Might have to pick up some of those, they look top notch! I, like others, am totally turned off the 'fecal matter' level of quality of tayda 1900 series clone knobs.
Anyone else reading and thinking of using them, just don't. They belong in the bin. One of the worst quality products tayda sells imo...which you know...is saying something...
Quote from: alanp on April 07, 2015, 12:44:43 AM
http://erthenvar.com/store/accessories/knobs/mini-fluted-knobs (http://erthenvar.com/store/accessories/knobs/mini-fluted-knobs)
(http://erthenvar.com/store/image/cache/data/mini_knobs_black_1-228x228.jpg)
Metal inserts.
The setscrews and threads don't strip unless you're King Kong.
OK, so I was putting in an order with PPP anyway, so I bought them there. They just showed up today and... you're right Alan. Those from erthenvar are definitely better. No inserts in the PPP knobs.
They do still seem like good quality though. I just tightened one down on a pot shaft and it didn't feel like it wanted to strip with reasonable torque. They will certainly be fine for my project. But if I ever do a customer build with these, I'll be visiting erthenvar for sure. Unless Paul carries the good ones.
Thanks Lee, unfortunately I have no idea where they are sourcing those knobs (not the usual traps). If I could get a bulk quote I might be able to match his price, but yeah...not sure where he's sourcing them. Doesn't look like Davies as he says "Davies alike". This would be a great group buy opportunity for you guys as well.
Lee the ones from Small Bear are without the brass core as well but they are of solid core construction, no trouble to tighten.
Tayda's are mostly hollow inside and made from a soft, poorly coloured, comparatively transluscent type of plastic.
Sad... very sad...
(http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc305/davent/IMG_7009_zpsqvhigvil.jpg)
Oh wow. That does look like a waste of $.40.
I'm thinking the PPP are likely same supplier as SB then. I think they are listed as ABS but they look/feel like they are maybe phenolic. The only reason I would hesitate to use them for a customer build is that the customer may for some reason over tighten them. For my personal build they will be fine. Shame they are the same price as the erthenvars though.
I remember I complained about the Taydas 1900h's and they came back with some rubbish line about quality being up to standard...
Oh here it is. They gave me a refund as they do, but I like how customer service slipped in this little line:
"1900H we sell lots of it everyday and to returning customers, but of course I understand that everybody doesn't have same expectations for the price they paid for an item."
Pretty brazen response. Sell an item that doesn't even function properly then point the blame at the customers "expectations". Yeah, I have expectations. That the grub screw will work...Call me Mr crazy here...
Haven't bought another Tayda knob since..
Quote from: chromesphere on April 21, 2015, 01:29:27 AM
I remember I complained about the Taydas 1900h's and they came back with some rubbish line about quality being up to standard...
Oh here it is. They gave me a refund as they do, but I like how customer service slipped in this little line:
"1900H we sell lots of it everyday and to returning customers, but of course I understand that everybody doesn't have same expectations for the price they paid for an item."
Pretty brazen response. Sell an item that doesn't even function properly then point the blame at the customers "expectations". Yeah, I have expectations. That the grub screw will work...Call me Mr crazy here...
Haven't bought another Tayda knob since..
Yikes. That is crazy. Honestly, if they had Dave's pic as their product shot, I would have never started this thread. It easily answers the question. It's like somebody in Tayda QC looked at an earlier casting and said, "Nope. Needs to be a little crappier."
The Tayda ones are absolute shite.
After reading through this thread I don't think I'm alone with that opinion ;)
I've got the Tayda Davies clones on my Ammocan, Terminus, and Seapig pedals. I cant remember how I managed to fix them but there was a fair number of stripped knobs pretty early on..
I only ever used 6 of them... worked and looked fine, guess I got lucky! Was a long time ago so maybe they shifted supplier.
small bear's 1900 for knurled shaft are amazing if you have some knurled's left from the olden tayda days... oh and that just reminded me how the solid shafts from tayda's are different sizes and give me problems with anything but a nice knob. i bet the erthenvars will do well on em though
+1 on the Erthenvar. Really nice (thanks Alan!)