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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: lars on April 15, 2015, 07:42:00 PM

Title: Guitar strap locks - warning - very expensive idea
Post by: lars on April 15, 2015, 07:42:00 PM
I didn't want to use any of the strap lock systems that I've seen, mostly because they do require some modification (bigger/longer screws), and a lot of them are useless as regular strap holders if you loose the locking part or forget the strap that is setup for the system.
So, I was looking at this from a bag of potatoes, and wondered, does that work?
(http://s26.postimg.org/pxzeitb2x/spensive.jpg)
It does ;D. Locks the strap in there without having to modify your guitar or strap in any way.
This idea is pretty costly though... .00 cents!
Title: Re: Guitar strap locks - warning - very expensive idea
Post by: GermanCdn on April 15, 2015, 07:47:42 PM
Just don't try any epic rockstar guitar swings with those. ::)

In all honesty though, I think good strap locks are one of the best investments you can make.  I swear by the Schaller ones (the real ones, not the cheapo knock offs on ebay).  And they are really not that expensive once you've got one set on a strap, as you can pick up the buttons for ~ $3 a set, so you can put the buttons on your guitars and still only need a few of the strap units.
Title: Re: Guitar strap locks - warning - very expensive idea
Post by: Scruffie on April 15, 2015, 08:00:16 PM
There's always the classic grolsch (or other beer) bottle rubber ring.

(http://grapestoglass.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Grolsch-Bottle-up-close.jpg)

Just as cheap and you get to drink 2 beers at the same time ;D
Title: Re: Guitar strap locks - warning - very expensive idea
Post by: pricklyrobot on April 15, 2015, 08:08:33 PM
I've used these things: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/accessories/lm-products-surelock-nylon-guitar-strap for years. They're cheap (they were only $10 the last time I bought one), keep your guitar from falling on the ground, and also don't require any mods.
Title: Re: Guitar strap locks - warning - very expensive idea
Post by: selfdestroyer on April 15, 2015, 08:19:52 PM
grolsch all the way here with my couch straps.

Cody
Title: Re: Guitar strap locks - warning - very expensive idea
Post by: 29palms on April 15, 2015, 08:25:41 PM
I can recommend the Grolsch  method too, only problem is I had to keep buying more guitars so I had an excuse to drink more beers... ;)
Title: Re: Guitar strap locks - warning - very expensive idea
Post by: micromegas on April 15, 2015, 09:25:29 PM
+1 for the Grolsch. Although you can try the Hirschbräu Doppel-Hirsch (pic below these lines). German engineering at its best, a little more expensive but tastier.  ;D

(http://tercertiempocervezas.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/der-herschbrau-doppel-hirsch21.jpg)

Dr. No effects also makes a nice-fancier-über-expensive strap lock in leather, but the red rubber circle is magic.
Title: Re: Guitar strap locks - warning - very expensive idea
Post by: TGP39 on April 15, 2015, 09:49:07 PM
Quote from: selfdestroyer on April 15, 2015, 08:19:52 PM
grolsch all the way here with my couch straps.

Cody

Hey Cody, the last Couch Strap I purchased left a residue on my Gibson SG. This ever happen to you?  I had to polish my guitar for like 3 days to get it off.

Steve.
Title: Re: Guitar strap locks - warning - very expensive idea
Post by: davent on April 15, 2015, 10:18:22 PM
The one Couch strap i have is such a struggle to get on the button i don't see a need to do anything further to keep it there. The cheapie Monkeymans on everything else gets a hefty hardware store washer,  guitar value appropriate .
Title: Re: Guitar strap locks - warning - very expensive idea
Post by: lars on April 15, 2015, 10:49:00 PM
Quote from: Scruffie on April 15, 2015, 08:00:16 PM
There's always the classic grolsch (or other beer) bottle rubber ring.

(http://grapestoglass.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Grolsch-Bottle-up-close.jpg)

Just as cheap and you get to drink 2 beers at the same time ;D
Now I feel stupid. :o I thought that when someone referred to grolsch strap locks, that was an actual strap lock company! So it's basically a rubber fender washer. A trip to the hardware store would probably work as well, although your way of obtaining them sounds better!
Title: Guitar strap locks - warning - very expensive idea
Post by: jimilee on April 15, 2015, 10:52:41 PM
There is a  planet waves strap that has a clamp of sorts that goes on to yhe existing strap Britons, it works well...I have too any guitars, im not sure which one its on or which bedroom it's in though.


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Title: Re: Guitar strap locks - warning - very expensive idea
Post by: Willybomb on April 15, 2015, 10:59:50 PM
I've bolted my bass strap on with a steel washer.  It's not going anywhere.
Title: Re: Guitar strap locks - warning - very expensive idea
Post by: bcalla on April 15, 2015, 11:16:02 PM
I have these (http://www.zzounds.com/item--DNP7007SI?siid=22793&gclid=Cj0KEQjwmLipBRC59O_EqJ_E0asBEiQATYdNh3Fzi9Gslo_OuBmJ6RRPSSINFM3LBS_TB1xBEUYk6dIaAppd8P8HAQ) on a few of my guitars.  They're actually pretty good.  They can break over time but at $4 per pair, who cares?  Keep a few sets in your case.
Title: Re: Guitar strap locks - warning - very expensive idea
Post by: lars on April 16, 2015, 01:22:10 AM
Quote from: bcalla on April 15, 2015, 11:16:02 PM
I have these (http://www.zzounds.com/item--DNP7007SI?siid=22793&gclid=Cj0KEQjwmLipBRC59O_EqJ_E0asBEiQATYdNh3Fzi9Gslo_OuBmJ6RRPSSINFM3LBS_TB1xBEUYk6dIaAppd8P8HAQ) on a few of my guitars.  They're actually pretty good.  They can break over time but at $4 per pair, who cares?  Keep a few sets in your case.
Those look like a great option. I decided to take a trip to the hardware store and do the "grolsch" rubber washer idea. I was able to get some thick rubber fender washers that lock in really well. At .60 a piece, they're not as cheap as the bread bag clip idea, but a lot more durable.
Title: Re: Guitar strap locks - warning - very expensive idea
Post by: GrindCustoms on April 16, 2015, 08:43:52 AM
Most of my guitars have Schaller strap locks, that i really like and can interchange straps.. and will also work with strapt that don't have the lockers on them.

I wanted some for the SG.. but the Schaller have the whole locking setup external and would have poked me in the belly or hips wich is not so comfortable... so earlier today i ordered a set of Dunlop Flush mount locks... really digging the design of those... was making a while i wanted to use some but did'nt really had any guitar that where really requiring them.

Title: Re: Guitar strap locks - warning - very expensive idea
Post by: Muadzin on April 16, 2015, 09:45:59 AM
At the youth center where I used to work the volunteers liked to drink Grolsch after work, so I managed to collect quite a few rubber washers for my guitars. Haven't had one of those come off by accident. The downside was that they're  just as hard to pop off as they are to put on, which wasn't that handy when you had to put the guitars back into the bag/case. So I got into the habit of not taking the straps off. For my new guitars however, with all those custom paint jobs, I'm using strap locks again.
Title: Re: Guitar strap locks - warning - very expensive idea
Post by: raulduke on April 16, 2015, 10:27:17 AM
I use these:
(http://www.richtonemusic.co.uk/Data/Product_Images/FEND099-0819-000b.jpg)

They are cheap enough and work great for me, although I don't do any Hives-esque guitar swing maneuvers (skip to 2.55 min)  ;D

Title: Re: Guitar strap locks - warning - very expensive idea
Post by: Muadzin on April 16, 2015, 12:42:59 PM
Quote from: raulduke on April 16, 2015, 10:27:17 AMThey are cheap enough and work great for me, although I don't do any Hives-esque guitar swing maneuvers (skip to 2.55 min)  ;D



Nice! Let's bring on the guitar toss fail!



Methinks not even locking strap locks can prevent the chance of guitar toss fail though. I don't think they're meant to withstand the force and weight of a guitar being tossed around, in which case a chain is only as strong as its weakest link.
Title: Re: Guitar strap locks - warning - very expensive idea
Post by: mrclean77 on April 16, 2015, 12:55:28 PM
Nice.

The cost of a set of Schallers, IMO, is well worth the piece of mind that comes with it. I am typically not pulling cock-rock moves in the bedroom whilst performing for my 7yo daughter, stuffed animals and the family dog, so I'm good there.

The RG has DiMarzio lockers on it for two reasons: 1) the strap is very comfortable & 2) I believe it may be illegal to put anything BUT the DiMarzios on an RG 8)
Title: Re: Guitar strap locks - warning - very expensive idea
Post by: Betty Wont on April 16, 2015, 01:36:44 PM
I bought one Kepur strap 10 years ago and It still the only one I use for all my guitars. I does not come out of the buttonhole, period. I've worn it for thousands of hours and disconnected the strap hundreds of times and the strap and buttonhole material is still virginal. I think the Kepur is the least complicated strap security available.
Title: Re: Guitar strap locks - warning - very expensive idea
Post by: irmcdermott on April 16, 2015, 06:56:32 PM
I use these straps (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008CCCB1E/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1) on all of my solid bodies. Love them. They don't go super low, so if you where your guitar at your knees, then it's not the right strap for you.
Title: Re: Guitar strap locks - warning - very expensive idea
Post by: rumbletone on April 16, 2015, 10:32:15 PM
I've used washers (rubber and metal), bread bag closers, etc., and still find that strap locks are the best solution. I've never had one fall off or break, and it is quicker to remove the strap than any other method I've used. It's a small cost compared to the value of my guitars. And now that I have them on all/most of my guitars, I can swap straps easily.
Title: Re: Guitar strap locks - warning - very expensive idea
Post by: Willybomb on April 19, 2015, 02:11:53 PM
I had a chinese dimarzio straplock copy fail during a gig.  Unfortunately my actual dimarzio straplock clip on the spare guitar didnt fit it so it spent the rest of the night directly screwed into the guitar.

Never had a dimarzio break though.
Title: Re: Guitar strap locks - warning - very expensive idea
Post by: GermanCdn on April 19, 2015, 02:55:07 PM
Quote from: Willybomb on April 19, 2015, 02:11:53 PM
I had a chinese dimarzio straplock copy fail during a gig.  Unfortunately my actual dimarzio straplock clip on the spare guitar didnt fit it so it spent the rest of the night directly screwed into the guitar.

Never had a dimarzio break though.

I've had the knockoff Schallers fail as well, hence my comment on real Schallers.  And same thing on the strap buttons, real Schaller locks typically don't fit on Chinese copies.