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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: Zigcat on May 09, 2015, 05:02:44 PM

Title: Reticon BBDs
Post by: Zigcat on May 09, 2015, 05:02:44 PM
I've had these damn things since I first got into the pedal thing when I was 16 or so. Now I have no idea what to do with them because they somehow became rare in the last few years. All brand new but I have no way of testing them. Suggestions? Anyone really need them?
Title: Re: Reticon BBDs
Post by: madbean on May 09, 2015, 05:09:21 PM
They are worth quite a bit. I would hold on to them.

You can use the SAD1024 to build a vintage MXR Flanger.
The 4096 can be used in some vintage delay and echo units although I don't have a list. I'm sure someone here knows.
Title: Re: Reticon BBDs
Post by: Zigcat on May 09, 2015, 05:13:42 PM
I'd rather not use them in a build. So many people with sad, broken flangers that could be fixed...
Title: Re: Reticon BBDs
Post by: Scruffie on May 09, 2015, 05:13:56 PM
I'm always after spare 1024 for EHX repairs.

The 4096... there's no projects for anything that used it, you'd probably be better off selling it on ebay for someone who needs to repair a pedal or buying a broken pedal to repair your self IMO.

Top of my head I can only thing of the MXR and a DOD delay using it but i'm sure a few other things did.
Title: Re: Reticon BBDs
Post by: Zigcat on May 09, 2015, 05:15:55 PM
The 1024s came from RG a long time ago and the 4096 was destined for a Midwest Analog VC delay that never ended up being built. Bought the chip and never made a board.
Title: Re: Reticon BBDs
Post by: Scruffie on May 09, 2015, 05:19:53 PM
I just had a quick look, the 4096 was used in the MXR time delay (the cheaper plastic unit of the day) and the DOD 680, I think the 680s are more common.
Title: Re: Reticon BBDs
Post by: culturejam on May 09, 2015, 05:41:44 PM
I say sell 'em and reap the benefits of massive value appreciation.  ;D
Title: Re: Reticon BBDs
Post by: Scruffie on May 09, 2015, 05:49:26 PM
Quote from: culturejam on May 09, 2015, 05:41:44 PM
I say sell 'em and reap the benefits of massive value appreciation.  ;D
Ha, you say that, but this is the original price for one https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/6d/54/13/6d5413581faa48834ffdbe81847d6f7d.jpg

With inflation it comes to about  $40-50 anyway depending on the exact year.
Title: Re: Reticon BBDs
Post by: culturejam on May 09, 2015, 06:02:37 PM
I'm sure you're right. I just remember being able to buy them not that long ago for $20 or $25 (ebay). And now they sell for double maybe 5 years later. Not exactly something you can retire on, but doubling your money is always nice.
Title: Re: Reticon BBDs
Post by: Luke51411 on May 09, 2015, 06:03:51 PM
Quote from: Scruffie on May 09, 2015, 05:49:26 PM
Quote from: culturejam on May 09, 2015, 05:41:44 PM
I say sell 'em and reap the benefits of massive value appreciation.  ;D
Ha, you say that, but this is the original price for one https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/6d/54/13/6d5413581faa48834ffdbe81847d6f7d.jpg

With inflation it comes to about  $40-50 anyway depending on the exact year.
Rat Shack markup... Probably coulda bought them online for 1/10th of the price  :P
Title: Re: Reticon BBDs
Post by: Scruffie on May 09, 2015, 06:27:06 PM
Quote from: Luke51411 on May 09, 2015, 06:03:51 PM
Quote from: Scruffie on May 09, 2015, 05:49:26 PM
Quote from: culturejam on May 09, 2015, 05:41:44 PM
I say sell 'em and reap the benefits of massive value appreciation.  ;D
Ha, you say that, but this is the original price for one https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/6d/54/13/6d5413581faa48834ffdbe81847d6f7d.jpg

With inflation it comes to about  $40-50 anyway depending on the exact year.
Rat Shack markup... Probably coulda bought them online for 1/10th of the price  :P
Haha, hit up the ol' Tayda Arpanet ;)

Quote from: culturejam on May 09, 2015, 06:02:37 PM
I'm sure you're right. I just remember being able to buy them not that long ago for $20 or $25 (ebay). And now they sell for double maybe 5 years later. Not exactly something you can retire on, but doubling your money is always nice.
Really? I got one about 5 years ago and i'm not exactly sure but I think it was still about $35, still a good mark up though yes. I was just pointing out it was never exactly a cheap part to begin with.
Title: Re: Reticon BBDs
Post by: GrindCustoms on May 09, 2015, 10:45:53 PM
Quote from: Scruffie on May 09, 2015, 05:19:53 PM
I just had a quick look, the 4096 was used in the MXR time delay (the cheaper plastic unit of the day) and the DOD 680, I think the 680s are more common.

It's a CD4013 in my DOD 680, is it possible that they changed the clock IC through their production?

Mine appears to be stock, Motorola IC.
Title: Re: Reticon BBDs
Post by: Scruffie on May 09, 2015, 10:46:45 PM
Quote from: GrindCustoms on May 09, 2015, 10:45:53 PM
Quote from: Scruffie on May 09, 2015, 05:19:53 PM
I just had a quick look, the 4096 was used in the MXR time delay (the cheaper plastic unit of the day) and the DOD 680, I think the 680s are more common.

It's a CD4013 in my DOD 680, is it possible that they changed the clock IC through their production?

Mine appears to be stock, Motorola IC.
The 4013 is the clock chip, not the BBD...

Edit:The BBD in yours may be an R5101 instead of a SAD4096.
Title: Re: Reticon BBDs
Post by: GrindCustoms on May 09, 2015, 11:08:54 PM
Quote from: Scruffie on May 09, 2015, 10:46:45 PM
Quote from: GrindCustoms on May 09, 2015, 10:45:53 PM
Quote from: Scruffie on May 09, 2015, 05:19:53 PM
I just had a quick look, the 4096 was used in the MXR time delay (the cheaper plastic unit of the day) and the DOD 680, I think the 680s are more common.

It's a CD4013 in my DOD 680, is it possible that they changed the clock IC through their production?

Mine appears to be stock, Motorola IC.
The 4013 is the clock chip, not the BBD...

Edit:The BBD in yours may be an R5101 instead of a SAD4096.

lmao... yeah, i knew it was'nt the BBD the 4013... and yep it's the fattie R5101 in mine, sorry i got confused in that one... that's what happens when i wake up from a hard evening...  ::)
Title: Re: Reticon BBDs
Post by: lars on May 10, 2015, 06:19:05 PM
I would sell them while you can. It seems these chips die over time, regardless of how they're used or not used. So they could be worth over $50 a pop, or worth nothing. The longer you keep them, the greater the chance of the latter.
Title: Re: Reticon BBDs
Post by: Scruffie on May 10, 2015, 06:24:26 PM
As long as they're stored and handled properly they should be fine, they're just very static sensitive (much like 4013s which seem to die just as much in vintage effects, if not more) I can't see any reason why they'd degrade of their own accord.