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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: playpunk on February 08, 2016, 06:54:03 PM

Title: SIP Socket Garbage
Post by: playpunk on February 08, 2016, 06:54:03 PM
Hello guys:

I put together one of Jon's projects - the most recent fuzz - and I am having problems with it. I think, though, that my problems come from the garbage SIP sockets I got in my most recent Tayda order.

Has anyone else had problems with these sockets? I've used SIP sockets in the past for transistors and other components I wanted to swap in and out, but these ones don't seem very sturdy.
Title: Re: SIP Socket Garbage
Post by: mremic01 on February 08, 2016, 07:43:08 PM
I've never had a problem with them and I've used them quite a bit. One of the things I do that's a little different is that I never solder in just one socket for each lead. I'll snap off a whole row to span the space between the leads so the whole thing is sturdier. If there are no traces under the socket, I'll drill extra holes for the in-between pins to sit. If that's not possible, I'll cut those pins off and grind them down, but leave the plastic connecting both outer pins.

For some components, the leads can be too thick to stick in the sockets. For others (Tayda resistors) the leads can be too thin to stay put. That's more an issue with the socketed components than the sockets themselves.
Title: Re: SIP Socket Garbage
Post by: culturejam on February 08, 2016, 07:53:36 PM
Quote from: mremic01 on February 08, 2016, 07:43:08 PM
I'll snap off a whole row to span the space between the leads so the whole thing is sturdier. If there are no traces under the socket, I'll drill extra holes for the in-between pins to sit. If that's not possible, I'll cut those pins off and grind them down, but leave the plastic connecting both outer pins.

Me, too. I cut the "middle" pins out. So for a resistor, I snap four pins of SIP and then clip the middle two.
Title: Re: SIP Socket Garbage
Post by: playpunk on February 08, 2016, 09:30:51 PM
Sorry I wasn't more specific - the issues are with the components staying in the socket.

Tayda transistors and resistors. I think I'm just going to pull the sockets and solder in the components. Too much hassle otherwise - stuff coming loose, etc.
Title: Re: SIP Socket Garbage
Post by: m-Kresol on February 08, 2016, 10:15:19 PM
Quote from: playpunk on February 08, 2016, 09:30:51 PM
Sorry I wasn't more specific - the issues are with the components staying in the socket.

Tayda transistors and resistors. I think I'm just going to pull the sockets and solder in the components. Too much hassle otherwise - stuff coming loose, etc.

could also be thinner legs on the components.
Title: Re: SIP Socket Garbage
Post by: EBRAddict on February 08, 2016, 10:18:37 PM
I've never had Tayda 1/4W resistors seat firmly into SIP sockets. I mic'd five or six brands including some cheapies from ChinaBay and a dirt cheap kit from Amazon and Tayda's were 0.2mm less in diameter than any of them.

I use their SIP sockets & usually pick up a dozen strips whenever I order. I usually spray them out with brake parts cleaner to get rid of any oil before I use them.


Title: Re: SIP Socket Garbage
Post by: pickdropper on February 09, 2016, 12:26:22 AM
It's varied for me.  Some of the Tayda ones have been OK, others have ended up in the bin.

It can also happen if you overstretch the socket, even with the good ones.  Those are really designed for IC legs, not component leads.
Title: Re: SIP Socket Garbage
Post by: culturejam on February 09, 2016, 01:06:54 AM
Quote from: playpunk on February 08, 2016, 09:30:51 PM
Tayda transistors and resistors.

There's you problem. At least the resistors, anyway. Those things have super-thin leads that aren't wide enough to stay in the sockets.
Title: Re: SIP Socket Garbage
Post by: jtaormina on February 09, 2016, 01:43:08 AM
I've seen the thickness of cheap resistors leads not fit in those sockets very well.
Title: Re: SIP Socket Garbage
Post by: chromesphere on February 10, 2016, 12:03:00 AM
Yeah, this is the reason I don't like thin lead resistors.  Breadboarding, socketing etc, they don't make a clean connection.
Title: Re: SIP Socket Garbage
Post by: davent on February 10, 2016, 12:06:09 AM
For breadboarding good luck even getting the leads inserted into the board.

dave
Title: Re: SIP Socket Garbage
Post by: playpunk on February 10, 2016, 01:45:07 AM
I'm going to pull the sockets and solder the components to the board. I guess I'll just live with not knowing if the fuzzstainer is better with GE transistors.

Thanks for your help - I thought I was going crazy or forgot how to solder or something.
Title: Re: SIP Socket Garbage
Post by: Leevibe on February 10, 2016, 04:25:37 AM
I bought some DIP8 machine pin sockets from tayda one time. Never again. After one insertion, the sockets were sprung. They would hold a chip, but not in a way that felt anywhere near as solid as the mill max ones I'm used to. I'm sure their SIP are of the same quality. I bet if you replaced them with good ones you'd have no problems.