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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: matmosphere on December 15, 2016, 03:27:08 PM

Title: Rustbucket questions
Post by: matmosphere on December 15, 2016, 03:27:08 PM
I'm really digging  the rustbucket but I'm trying to figure out how to get consistent results from it. I've only tried it on a guitar with a low output humbucker. I'm wondering how much pickups play into triggering the envelope, because right now I'm getting a very small window between no triggering and a scratchy mess.

Any advice guys.
Title: Re: Rustbucket questions
Post by: thesmokingman on December 15, 2016, 04:50:45 PM
 every youtube video I see demoing the attack decay says "you have to change your playing style to use this"
Title: Re: Rustbucket questions
Post by: lars on December 16, 2016, 02:23:54 AM
Quote from: thesmokingman on December 15, 2016, 04:50:45 PM
every youtube video I see demoing the attack decay says "you have to change your playing style to use this"
I second that statement.
I think the problem is the EHX attack decay circuit was originally designed way too complex for what it is supposed to do. All that extra circuitry just mucks up the performance and adds noise.
The Boss slow gear is a much more simple circuit (only one IC), and does pretty much the exact same thing. In fact, I think the SG-1 is polyphonic, so it can handle chords, whereas the attack decay is limited to single notes. In other words, there's not really anything you can do to improve it's performance. It's glitchy and inconsistent by design, that's why it was discontinued pretty fast.
Title: Re: Rustbucket questions
Post by: cajone5 on December 16, 2016, 07:24:10 PM
In for more opinions on this.  Really wanted to build a rustbucket but if a slow gear would be better for this effect, I'm all for the simpler build.
Title: Re: Rustbucket questions
Post by: jimilee on December 17, 2016, 12:36:01 AM
Just in case, I just ordered some slow gear pcbs from osh park, I will have 2 extra.


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Title: Re: Rustbucket questions
Post by: matmosphere on December 17, 2016, 01:45:26 AM
after playing with it some more I want to see how throwing a comp in front of it influences the sound. It's a far more complex pedal to dial in than I thought it would be. Sounds cool though, can't wait to get some delay going after it.
Title: Re: Rustbucket questions
Post by: Stomptown on December 17, 2016, 03:09:39 AM
Quote from: jimilee on December 17, 2016, 12:36:01 AM
Just in case, I just ordered some slow gear pcbs from osh park, I will have 2 extra.


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PM'd re: slow gear PCBs!
Title: Re: Rustbucket questions
Post by: jimilee on December 17, 2016, 03:44:33 AM
PM'd back.


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Title: Re: Rustbucket questions
Post by: cajone5 on December 18, 2016, 07:43:13 PM
PM'd.
Title: Re: Rustbucket questions
Post by: matmosphere on December 23, 2016, 02:34:00 PM
I had a chance to try it with a compressor in front. It was much more consistent and easy to use. Bear Hug > Rustbucket > multiplex = spacey goodness.
Title: Re: Rustbucket questions
Post by: jimilee on December 23, 2016, 02:48:52 PM
Quote from: Matmosphere on December 23, 2016, 02:34:00 PM
I had a chance to try it with a compressor in front. It was much more consistent and easy to use. Bear Hug > Rustbucket > multiplex = spacey goodness.
Awesome, thats a great idea, I'm going to try that with my slow gear.