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Title: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: jimilee on February 08, 2017, 07:36:49 PM
I read several other boards and this is the best community I have ever been part of. If someone even so much as steps out of line, people are eager to jump in and stop it quickly. Thanks guy, this Is a great place to be.


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Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: culturejam on February 08, 2017, 07:45:57 PM
Shut up, Jimi.



j/k, you da man.  ;D
Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: jimilee on February 08, 2017, 07:47:10 PM
Quote from: culturejam on February 08, 2017, 07:45:57 PM
Shut up, Jimi.



j/k, you da man.  ;D
Bwahahahahaha
I'm not the man, it's your world, I'm just living in it!


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Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: Ralfg on February 08, 2017, 07:59:41 PM
Totally agree. I'm still pretty new at effect building and I feel completely comfortable asking questions and chiming in on posts. Great community here thanks everyone.
Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: GermanCdn on February 08, 2017, 08:41:41 PM
Who let the long haired bass player in (I keeeed, I keeeeed).

Yes, it is nice not to have threads that devolve into 100s of pages of "You're an idiot!" "No, you're an idiot".  Am a member of two football forums (one for a team I love, and the other for a team whose fans are very passionate, albeit completely cannibalistic), and the amount of topics that get derailed into stupid (and lengthy, I'm not kidding about 100s of pages) in fighting makes one not want to participate (oh, and then there's TGP, or as I call Riderfansforguitarplayerswhodontactuallyplayanymore).
Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: nzCdog on February 08, 2017, 09:30:52 PM
+1 Jimi! 8)

A CS:GO (computer game) nerd here, I sure get tired of the constant flaming & feral talk... mostly from potty-mouthed, squeaky-voiced kids.   Respect, kindness and tolerance are golden.   Yay for this forum!
Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: matmosphere on February 08, 2017, 10:39:54 PM
Not sure I would have continued with this hobby if it weren't for the community on here. Not only is everyone helpful and friendly, but it sets the bar so high for quality o work. Looking at build reports on here is really inspiring.
Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: blearyeyes on February 08, 2017, 10:41:53 PM
Ditto...
Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: Aleph Null on February 09, 2017, 01:03:41 AM
< GROUP HUG >

But seriously, I've never been made to feel stupid here. Everyone is civil and willing to help you where you're at. I don't know why that happens in some forums and not others, but I am grateful. There's also much less grousing ("Get off my lawn!" threads) and cork sniffing here than pretty much any other place musicians (especially guitarists) gather.

(http://new3.fjcdn.com/gifs/Nph_e21142_720892.gif)
Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: AntKnee on February 09, 2017, 01:30:14 AM
Amen.
This forum is awesome.
Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: Fndr8875 on February 09, 2017, 03:01:17 AM
your dead on. Im the first to admit that i am one one of those that understands some fundamentals, but the why of most stuff, i coundnt have the slightest idea. And and another forum its just , for me at least, just really pisses me off that ppl are that way, when you state youve searched google, different forums, or just have a random question. you always have some asshole who wants to chime in about why i havent memorized page 47 of some data sheet and know i got to do this to make it work. It amazes me, but i come here and ppl are nice, and respectful. Not to mention within a few hours of asking if anyone had a few spares 2 different ppl offered to send me some. I really would like to see the response if i posted asking the same one the other forum. I konw he majority of them are nice but , and i mean no disrepect to a very highly respoected  man who has been working in this industry for 30 years, but even he flamed me several times. I got fed up and went off on him, he apologized afterwards. But this is my new home, i think this site has the most valuable information posted in a way i can understand, and best pcbs IMO, and i think everyone can agree the best documentation for me and ppl like culture jam who arent very smart...Haha that cracked me up when i read your post Cj.
Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: juansolo on February 09, 2017, 09:45:11 AM
Bloody hippies everywhere!



;)
Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: peterc on February 09, 2017, 09:56:33 AM
I can only echo what J said.

Here and the GroupDIY site I can take comments seriously.....

But seriously  ;)
Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: mrclean77 on February 09, 2017, 12:17:11 PM
Couldn't agree more, Jimi. There's no telling how widely diverse we have the political spectrum covered, but I love that the first comment in a recent political thread was, 'hey, please not here'.

Besides Mr. Bean setting the tone, I think one thing that makes this group unique, is that so many members understand what its like to not know some of this stuff. I started out with kind of a 'hey, I wonder if I can even do this?' approach and have learned bits and pieces as I go along ----- IMO, that kind of learning is not always linear/logic, so there are things you're gonna know and there are things one might EXPECT you to know after being "in" the hobby for 'x' amount of time, but truth be told...you may just not know and it's awesome that we have at least one place to ask without fearing insult and knowing SOMEbody here probably DOES know and is very likely to either tell you or point you in the right direction.

I've received help here from very knowledgeable members who were still very helpful and respectful when setting me straight when I wasn't doing all I could do to help myself.
Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: drolo on February 09, 2017, 03:38:45 PM
... I started writing and comparing mbp to other sites and always end up speaking in negative terms ... so I am just going to say :


BFF!!

;D
Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: jimilee on February 09, 2017, 05:12:08 PM
Quote from: juansolo on February 09, 2017, 09:45:11 AM
Bloody hippies everywhere!



;)
Bwahahahaha we are many.


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Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: jkokura on February 09, 2017, 06:17:53 PM
I think a big part of this is that, from the beginning, most of us here realized that we're all just doing a hobby. Nobody is changing the world here. We all have Dad bods because we're dads, doing a silly hobby that's lots of fun, creative, and an escape (in a sense) from the rat-race out there.

Aint nobody got time for the drama.

Jacob
Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: bluescage on February 10, 2017, 10:41:13 AM
+1 Jacob. I subsribed also to other fora, but I keep coming back here because I like the atmosphere! ( That rhymes  ;D ;D)
Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: stringsthings on February 12, 2017, 02:40:47 AM
Quote from: mrclean77 on February 09, 2017, 12:17:11 PM
Besides Mr. Bean setting the tone, I think one thing that makes this group unique, is that so many members understand what its like to not know some of this stuff.

Excellent point.  There's a lot of people here who are solder jockies and all of us started off in a similar place.   Which is the place of generally not knowing everything about what we're getting ourselves into.  A spirit of adventure and discovery. ( how elequent! :) )

But in a slightly more serious vein, anyone's who's dived into the DIY pedal pool has known the 'joy' of trouble-shooting a project.  This unique experience really brings one to a place of "I don't know everything, but I really wish I knew why my fuzzbox isn't working, and I want to find out more."  And one sets off on the quest to find out more.  And as we delve into the hobby, the more we learn about what's going on under the hood and our enjoyment of the hobby increases. 

Bean has set up a great place for learning and sharing.  This becomes contagious in a very positive way.  We now have a community that's built upon the enjoyment and the sharing of a common interest.  By offering projects that range from easy to complicated, Bean has also provided us with the opportunity to help out others.  And when one is helped, there is quite often a feeling of gratitude. 

To use myself as an example, with the help of fellow members, I have recently learned how to etch an enclosure.  Being able to do that has brought me a lot of enjoyment.  I'm very thankful for the tips and tricks that I've learned from fellow members.  I now am able to craft a really nice looking enclosure.  And when I was first getting into the DIY hobby, I didn't even know that etching an enclosure was possible. (I just wanted to make my own fuzzbox :))  )
Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: peAk on February 14, 2017, 01:20:54 PM
Is God real?

What about Trump, how is he doing his first month compared to Obama?

Why are PCs so much better than overpriced Macs?

Should humans eat meat?

Lets get this party started!!  8)
Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: jimilee on February 14, 2017, 05:03:09 PM
Quote from: peAk on February 14, 2017, 01:20:54 PM
Is God real?

What about Trump, how is he doing his first month compared to Obama?

Why are PCs so much better than overpriced Macs?

Should humans eat meat?

Lets get this party started!!  8)
Offensive foul, 10 yard penalty, first down.


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Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: playpunk on February 14, 2017, 07:51:59 PM
Quote from: peAk on February 14, 2017, 01:20:54 PM
Is God real?

What about Trump, how is he doing his first month compared to Obama?

Why are PCs so much better than overpriced Macs?

Should humans eat meat?

Lets get this party started!!  8)

10/10
Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: juansolo on February 14, 2017, 08:53:52 PM
Not only will I take that bait, I'm gonna try and answer it in a relatively calm and reasoned manner without resorting to mud slinging.

Quote from: peAk on February 14, 2017, 01:20:54 PM
Is God real?

By god I'm assuming you're referring to the Christian notion of god rather than Buddhist, Islamic, Hindu, Jewish, Sikh (you see where I'm going here), etc, etc. These are all relatively modern.

Before these we had Pagans, the Norse had a particularly awesome mythology with many gods, and let's not forget the birthplace of the modern world; Greek mythology. Plus many, many others.

When you accept that all these religions currently exist or have existed, all of which are based on stories / legend and many people following them. You must ask yourself; how do I know I'm worshipping the right god? Never mind is there one... Most religions do not allow for the worship of other gods (it's usually built into it in some way), but back that up with no reason that other gods are any less valid other than 'because it says so'.

The next part of the question is unanswerable. Any god, up to the point it interacts directly with a sentient species can only be regarded as a theory. When theories are proven, that is when they become fact and that is when the existence of gods can be globally accepted as truth. Up to that point all you have is an idea with nothing more concrete than mythology to back it up.

Logically speaking, with so many religions proporting to represent a one true god, it immediately creates a paradox as they can't all be correct. Indeed it makes the whole dealing with the subject a lot easier because of that impossibility. The logic surrounding them all saying the same thing means only one of them can be right and all the others are wasting their time. Now, everyone will believe that theirs is the one true god, but how do you come to that conclusion without any evidence whatsoever to back that up?

Faith.

The catch all explanation of any religion to it's followers. You just have to believe that your god is the real one. If you have it, you accept it as truth without evidence because of it. To people with it, god exists.

Quote from: peAk on February 14, 2017, 01:20:54 PM
What about Trump, how is he doing his first month compared to Obama?

Around half of all Americans who could be arsed to vote, voted for him and he's your president for better or for worse. What I think of that, much like Brexit, is moot. Democracy, with all it's flaws and failings has done what it does and we're stuck with it whether we like it or not.

The one thing to bear in mind is that one in every two people you meet doesn't agree with your point of view on the matter. Which is a worrying situation to be in with someone and something as emotive as Trump/Brexit.

It's getting up there with religion in terms of taboo on forums who can't control themselves. Well it is politics I suppose. Though it's difficult to tell these days as it might be some twisted 'reality' TV event.

I'm surprised we haven't had a football* question in here, we may as well go for the trinity.

*That's soccer for anyone not American, and hockey for Canadians.

Quote from: peAk on February 14, 2017, 01:20:54 PM
Why are PCs so much better than overpriced Macs?

Macs are PCs, have been since about 2005 architecturally speaking. You can run the Mac OS on PCs with a bit of creativity, likewise you can run Windows on a Mac.

Which is also ironically like arguing which is better: the PS4 or the Xbone. There's so little difference in them these days and there's so many cross-platform titles, it just doesn't matter.

I would have pulled you up on the 'overpriced' point as being leading. Much like referring to the galactic Empire as 'evil' in the opening crawl to Star Wars. They're only evil from the point of view of the rebels who in that universe are actually terrorists if you sit and think about it. But they are overpriced for what they are. They are also shiny, which is why they get away with it.

Quote from: peAk on February 14, 2017, 01:20:54 PM
Should humans eat meat?

Hell I know I'm asking people to accept that evolution, a scientifically proven thing, is actually real, but here goes. We've evolved to eat pretty much everything and not die from it. It's a pretty cool trick really.

Watch any of Richard Attenborough's documentaries and you'll see many creatures of the planet eating both plants and one another, and indeed maintaining an ecological balance because of it.

Where we throw it all to cock is behaving more like a virus than any of these creatures. We've developed technology that allows us to reek untold destruction to this world and utterly fuck with the delicate balance of nature. We do so because we're greedy and selfish (human nature). But ultimately rather than living in harmony with the planet, we're hurting it, all the fucking time.

On a planetary scale, we're en route to eventually destroying it or probably making it uninhabitable. Eating meat is the least of our issues as human beings.
Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: Aleph Null on February 14, 2017, 10:35:52 PM
and....thread locked!  ;D
Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: juansolo on February 14, 2017, 10:36:56 PM
If that doesn't do it, nothing will :D

It'll be the mac/pc thing that pushes people over the edge.
Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: alanp on February 15, 2017, 03:49:52 AM
Quote from: juansolo on February 14, 2017, 08:53:52 PM
Faith.

The catch all explanation of any religion to it's followers. You just have to believe that your god is the real one. If you have it, you accept it as truth without evidence because of it. To people with it, god exists.

I'm being serious, and non-trolling in my response here. I'm not trying to start a flame war.

I'm a simple man, but from what I can tell, the alternative to faith in *something* is nihilism. We came from nothing, our actions in the greater scheme of things mean jack and shit, and we will return to nothing, having made no longterm impact (where longterm is geological and evolutionary longterm), our consciousness consigned to oblivion.

I find that too bleak.
Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: peAk on February 15, 2017, 06:49:28 AM
Quote from: alanp on February 15, 2017, 03:49:52 AM
Quote from: juansolo on February 14, 2017, 08:53:52 PM
Faith.

The catch all explanation of any religion to it's followers. You just have to believe that your god is the real one. If you have it, you accept it as truth without evidence because of it. To people with it, god exists.

I'm being serious, and non-trolling in my response here. I'm not trying to start a flame war.

I'm a simple man, but from what I can tell, the alternative to faith in *something* is nihilism. We came from nothing, our actions in the greater scheme of things mean jack and shit, and we will return to nothing, having made no longterm impact (where longterm is geological and evolutionary longterm), our consciousness consigned to oblivion.

I find that too bleak.

So is faith in a God more extreme than believing that this was all just a big accident?

Maybe it's our defense mechanism that doesn't allow most of us the thought of nothingness?

I am with you, there has to be more to this.
Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: juansolo on February 15, 2017, 09:57:38 AM
All of it is a defence mechanism for us to try and wrap our heads around unknowable things or indeed, things we have trouble accepting.

For example it's hard to process that before I was born I did not exist, and when I die I will return to that state. Physically my body will degrade and (in theory) should fuel further life. But my consciousness will cease to be, and that can be a terrifying concept.

In order for people to come to terms with that various ideas of an after-life are offered by different beliefs. Christianity, Judaism and Islam all have versions of heaven and hell. Norse has Valhalla. Buddhists, Hindus and Sikhs have re-incarnation. Ancient Greek mythology is a bit more vague, but they all revolve around reward or punishment for behaviour on this plane of existence.

As for nihilism being the opposite of faith. That I don't agree with. Life is not meaningless. But life does not need meaning to occur. Life (as we know it) mainly requires water. Without it, there is no life. It's why there's a big fuss about finding it on other planets/moons. Because if they do, it means there may be life there.

By life I mean organisms that have evolved to live in that environment. Think about the most hostile places for life to be on our planet, like the deep, deep ocean. Where there is no light and insane levels of pressure that is hard to comprehend. Yet there is life there. Then we have Australia, where the indigenous wildlife all want to kill you, yet they gave us Neighbours and INXS. It's inexplicable that they can exist in the same place, yet they do.

What I'm getting at is that given the right ingredients, life wants to happen. Like pie, and we all know how good pie is.

Survival, love, play, death, loss, aspiration, friendship, disappointment, pain, pleasure, etc, etc. Be alive in the brief time we know we have here. Very few people leave their mark on history (for better and for worse) on a global scale. But it doesn't stop you experiencing life, and for those people that you do interact with, you have an impact greater than you think.

Watch Blade Runner. It's a very poignant piece of cinema if you pay attention to it.
Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: jkokura on February 15, 2017, 04:20:51 PM
So...

The Leafs look they're going to make the playoffs. That's awesome.

Jacob
Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: playpunk on February 15, 2017, 06:41:39 PM
Quote from: jkokura on February 15, 2017, 04:20:51 PM
So...

The Leafs look they're going to make the playoffs. That's awesome.

Jacob

Eh. Laffs will find a way to choke out of it.
Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: madbean on February 15, 2017, 07:32:44 PM
Quote from: peAk on February 14, 2017, 01:20:54 PM
Is God real?

What about Trump, how is he doing his first month compared to Obama?

Why are PCs so much better than overpriced Macs?

Should humans eat meat?

Lets get this party started!!  8)

Zappa was god, so yes.
Comparison implies a shared reality so I cannot comment.
I can build my own PC (and do!)
I don't but it took me a long time to get to that place. I'm glad I finally did, though.
Title: Re: Thanks for not flaming
Post by: Fndr8875 on February 24, 2017, 12:32:24 AM


1. No , im emotional when i should be logical and vice versa, but after catholic grade school, and high school, and living in the bible belt i guess theres so much religion (catholic mainly) present, and no offense to anyone, but i lean toward logic on this one.

2. Who the president is doesnt matter. The illuminati and reptilian shape shifters are in control, hahaha. Hes an egomaniacal sociopath with no empathy towards anyone, i hope he will be the best president america has seen, but i fear he will just help the rich get richer and further eliminate the middle class.
I thought obama was a good president. The fact that he was able to do some reform to health care IMO is really good, perfect, no. But better than it was. Ive been in the position to help, ie pay more taxes, and im currently in a position where im doing everything i can to basically exist. I never minded having a little more taken out of my check. I love how all these so called religious ppl are so far right wing and against social programs. Because jesus would definatly walk by a homeless person and tell him get a job and keep walking in his three piece suit. Do ppl try to take advantage of these programs, yes,  but i think we need to spend less $ on  more multi millon dollar fighter planes and have programs w some check and balances to help ppl who need it. Not just handouts.

3. Meat is yummy, i often think about how what im eating, how much of it is actual food, and how much is some refined processed who knows what. Id like to have a better diet, something im working one

4. Never owned a mac, they used to be far superior for graphic design, and audio processing. Think windows is closing that gap. Macs hardware is superior , but also more expensive. Ive got a Scarlett 2i2 usb interface, and it sounds very good, i use amplitube , and reaper and such. Hard to beat for few hundred bucks including a cheap pair of monitors. I dont play out and perfer this setup to a tube amp. Only bc tubes are so loud.