Looks like a straight up copy too!!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Electro-Harmonix-Big-Muff-type-FUZZ-PCB-with-mods-DIY-pedal-/292087432743?hash=item4401c48627:g:5EYAAOSw5cNYg4U7 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Electro-Harmonix-Big-Muff-type-FUZZ-PCB-with-mods-DIY-pedal-/292087432743?hash=item4401c48627:g:5EYAAOSw5cNYg4U7)
Good eye! That's definitely a rip off. What a hack.
He also appears to be selling a clone of the Bacon Bits
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Roth-electric-guitar-boost-pedal-DIY-printed-circuit-board-PCB-/292067021009?hash=item44008d10d1:g:1-oAAOSwx6pYrzL0
http://www.madbeanpedals.com/projects/images/slideshow/BaconBits.jpg
:-\
What a tosser.
I was tipped off to someone else (think it was a different guy, not this one) flogging copies of some of my boards I uploaded to OSH (cheap Chinese fabbed ones.) I don't upload complex stuff to OSH anymore.
The guy is probably now wondering why so many people are viewing his eBay item today... but not buying it. :D
People may be hacked off but the way I see it is that if the circuits are out there in the public domain then they are anyone's for the taking.
Quote from: darrenw6000 on April 18, 2017, 11:02:40 AM
People may be hacked off but the way I see it is that if the circuits are out there in the public domain then they are anyone's for the taking.
The circuits sure, but its the board layouts themselves that are a thing here. Dozens of BMPs floating about, but just transposing the Mudbunny layout into Eagle and getting a few dozen boards printed on the cheap is a bit shady (especially since hes charging 3$ more a board than our leguminous overlord does for the real deal).
Thanks, I sent a message to the seller.
Quote from: somnif on April 18, 2017, 11:05:55 AM
Quote from: darrenw6000 on April 18, 2017, 11:02:40 AM
People may be hacked off but the way I see it is that if the circuits are out there in the public domain then they are anyone's for the taking.
The circuits sure, but its the board layouts themselves that are a thing here. Dozens of BMPs floating about, but just transposing the Mudbunny layout into Eagle and getting a few dozen boards printed on the cheap is a bit shady (especially since hes charging 3$ more a board than our leguminous overlord does for the real deal).
Yep. The circuit is fair game, but the layout is original artwork protected by copyright at the time of creation (at least in the US). So that seller is actually violating copyright law, but it has nothing to do with the circuit itself.
Also, bonus points for using "leguminous". ;D
Quote from: culturejam on April 18, 2017, 12:52:59 PM
Yep. The circuit is fair game, but the layout is original artwork protected by copyright at the time of creation (at least in the US). So that seller is actually violating copyright law, but it has nothing to do with the circuit itself.
Also, bonus points for using "leguminous". ;D
That was my understanding as well
Which is exactly what I said in my message. But, I also offered to help him in working on his own original layouts so hopefully that will be enough to persuade him rather than having to get eBay involved. We'll see.
Quote from: madbean on April 18, 2017, 12:59:40 PM
Which is exactly what I said in my message. But, I also offered to help him in working on his own original layouts so hopefully that will be enough to persuade him rather than having to get eBay involved. We'll see.
You're too damn nice, Brian.
Quote from: culturejam on April 18, 2017, 01:05:30 PM
You're too damn nice, Brian.
Nah, it's always better to give the benefit of the doubt. I've already heard back from the seller and it looks like it will be resolved without issue.
Reminds me of the time way back when a
very well known pedal maker threatened to "destroy" MBP over some of my (original) layouts. Not really a professional way to handle things.
Quote from: madbean on April 18, 2017, 01:40:40 PM
Reminds me of the time way back when a very well known pedal maker threatened to "destroy" MBP over some of my (original) layouts. Not really a professional way to handle things.
I didn't mean you should throat-punch the guy. ;D
Dude has ended the auction because the item is no longer available....
Quote from: madbean on April 18, 2017, 01:40:40 PM
Reminds me of the time way back when a
very well known pedal maker threatened to "destroy" MBP over some of my (original) layouts. Not really a professional way to handle things.
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That's vexing.
My 2 cents/2 points
1) If >I< can figure out Eagle enough to make my own layouts.......
2) Although the learning curve varies from individual to individual (i.e. I'm sure there are plenty out there smarter about this stuff than myself), taking the plunge into Eagle (even being coddled by Jacob's tutorials) is enough to illustrate why folks are protective of their layout artwork. I'd have a hard time being proud of replicas like that one.
It wasn't even a good hack. No mitered edges==noob.
Now I'm dying to know who the threatening "well known pedal maker" was.
Quote from: AntKnee on April 19, 2017, 02:12:43 AM
Now I'm dying to know who the threatening "well known pedal maker" was.
I don't know but if I read everything right somebody left a clue a few comments back.
Quote from: AntKnee on April 19, 2017, 02:12:43 AM
Now I'm dying to know who the threatening "well known pedal maker" was.
What a vexing question.
Quote from: Matmosphere on April 19, 2017, 02:30:18 AM
Quote from: AntKnee on April 19, 2017, 02:12:43 AM
Now I'm dying to know who the threatening "well known pedal maker" was.
I don't know but if I read everything right somebody left a clue a few comments back.
;)