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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: MacHeath on July 26, 2017, 11:00:40 PM

Title: Help me with this fuzz tone
Post by: MacHeath on July 26, 2017, 11:00:40 PM
Hi all,

I have a question regarding this song by Nick Cave and Warren Ellis. I'm very interested in what you guys make of this tone; what pedal/effect/amp do you hear?

Here's the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK6xfxJVZvc

Ever since I saw the episode of True Detective where this features in the ending 2 years back, the guitar tone on this song has stuck in my head. Especially that of the guitar solo that starts around 1:10.

Thanks a lot and looking forward to your thoughts! ;D

-M.
Title: Re: Help me with this fuzz tone
Post by: somnif on July 26, 2017, 11:06:22 PM
I know, traditionally speaking, a lot of Nick Cave's tones come from "cheap" guitars run through tweed-ish amps with everything turned to 11. I'll see if I can dig a bit further into this particular track, but that would be a place to start.
Title: Re: Help me with this fuzz tone
Post by: somnif on July 26, 2017, 11:19:52 PM
Ok, apparently Warren Ellis is also particularly fond of an old  Colorsound fuzz wah, another place to look. The demos of it I can find on youtube do sound similar to the track in question, with the fuzz engaged without touching the wah treadle.
Title: Re: Help me with this fuzz tone
Post by: MacHeath on July 28, 2017, 05:19:42 PM
Hey somnif, thanks for your answers! Will definitely look into the colorsound fuzz, it sure sounds promising!
Title: Re: Help me with this fuzz tone
Post by: Doorlord on August 04, 2017, 12:11:19 AM
You could get close with a Foxx Tone Machine
Title: Re: Help me with this fuzz tone
Post by: cajone5 on August 04, 2017, 01:48:35 PM
I think the colorsound fuzz wah used a circuit similar to the colorsound 1-knob fuzz.  There are great repro's of both the 1-knob fuzz (also a simple one to DIY) and the wow fuzz (fuzz wah).  More info on the D*A*M site...

http://www.stompboxes.co.uk/wowfuzz.html

http://www.macaris.co.uk/one-knob-fuzz-by-d-a-m-/p/p175
Title: Re: Help me with this fuzz tone
Post by: brianq41369 on October 09, 2017, 02:32:07 AM
I think yer right? It sounds germanium too? Transistor Hfe 120-165ish range, colorsound one knob is a very forgiving circuit wether it's germanium or silicon. I think it has something to do with the smallish capacitor across Q1's base & collector? it really helps shape its sound? one of my favorite fuzz face variants, btw 2n2222a metal can & 2n3904 transistors sound good for silicon version. Good luck on yer build.


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Title: Re: Help me with this fuzz tone
Post by: lars on October 09, 2017, 03:21:40 AM
This song reminds me a lot of "Plume" by the Smashing Pumpkins. In fact, if you start both songs at 1:12 and compare the solos, the tone/feel is very similar minus the phaser. Maybe a Mudbunny run into a Bloodstone set in "manual" mode would get you that hollow/heavy fuzz sound (if you don't want to drop $$$ on an original Colorsound Wah Fuzz).