I received this Gibson ES137 Memphis shop guitar from a big online music store and this is what I found when I opened the case.
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The seal was broken. I have no idea what all this junk is inside the case and the last picture is what I rubbed up with my hand.
They'll take it back but I'm I being a little over board if I return it? When I opened it and saw this it sort of blew the excitement of the new guitar.
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If there is not any damage, I would still try to get a good discount. Yeah, I would be pissed if I spent that much money and got a filthy, unsealed guitar.
This is a definite "what are you going to do to make this right?" situation.
Something sacred about a new guitar. Hey did you call the number on the security sticker?
Quote from: Zigcat on August 11, 2017, 12:55:37 AM
If there is not any damage, I would still try to get a good discount. Yeah, I would be pissed if I spent that much money and got a filthy, unsealed guitar.
This is a definite "what are you going to do to make this right?" situation.
If here's no damage, yeah, a healthy discount would be in order.
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Totally weird and uncool!
You should think about calling the number on the box after speaking with the store.
The problem isn't that you found crap all over the guitar in the box. It's that someone opened the guitar box. Why did they do that? Was it to provide a set-up for the guitar, or was this from a supplier that ships stuff out from a factory and you should expect it to have the factory setup and not a store setup? If that's the case then it's probably dumb that they used the original box, because that makes it look suspicious.
Here's where my brain went: What if you got cheap copies made of an expensive Gibson guitar, and sold the cheap one by mail and the expensive one in the store? That's why that sticker's on the box: It's so that you know you're getting the guitar you paid for.
Agree with Jon. I'd absolutely return it.
I did call the Gibson number and got a voice recording. I had to go to practice so I emailed the store and then chatted with a rep (and I have a copy of the chat transcript) who said they would take it back. I asked her if this was shipped by them or was it drop shipped from Gibson and she said the later. I also asked if she would have a store rep call me tomorrow and she said they did not call customers, that I would have to call. I found that a little strange but what the hell. The neck on the guitar just doesn't look right either where the fretboard is glued to the neck. It's not parralel and smooth between the two. Maybe I'm just expecting to much LOL.
Thanks for confirming my thought process here is not off base. I am really leery of this thing now and I'm not sure they will discount it enough for me to keep it. This is not a bash against Gibson but if this is the way they ship their suppose to be better guitars it really just sucks.
Are those mice turds???
Good question. I just went back and pushed on the black pieces with a screw driver and they're hard. I know mice can get into tight places but this is a bit of a stretch getting into a closed case unless it was left open. There's no hole in the case so no entry point. Who the heck knows but you have excellent investigative powers Grody.
I would suggest two options here.
1) have the instrument checked out by a qualified luthier, if you really want to keep it.
2) Tell Gibson you want a brand new guitar with seals intact and a letter of authenticity signed and dated by the final inspector .
If they baulk , at all, tell them the pictures are going to hit the web asap. In truth they should be bending over backwards to accommodate you. Orville would be rolling in his grave.
Quote from: BrianS on August 11, 2017, 12:12:30 AM
When I opened it and saw this it sort of blew the excitement of the new guitar.
I'd return it for this reason alone. You're never going to be as excited about that guitar as you'd like to be, so it has less value than what you paid for.
Its on its way back. After a 20 minute phone discussion with one of the reps he said it didn't drop ship from Gibson, they had it in their warehouse and it should not have been shipped that way. I wasn't real upset about the whole ordeal because lets face it I have several other guitars I can play. I was more agitated on why someone from their company could not call me back and, to me, the seemingly nonchalant customer service. So lesson learned. Gibson also returned my call about the situation but it wasn't on them and Bob said they get quite a few calls on the broken seal. Appreciate everyone's response on this.
That's great. You're doing a great thing for everyone that orders Gibsons and is me with disappointment.
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Anyone else get a minor chuckle from "Gibson Security" on that sticker? ;D
They're probably armed with "axes", so I wouldn't laugh in their faces....
Quote from: BrianS on August 11, 2017, 07:50:15 PM
Its on its way back.
You definitely did the right thing. Gibson does have a bit of a QA problem as we all know.
Funny story (which I am probably totally not supposed to discuss), but my wife works for Mapex/Sonor and has a colleague that works at Gibson here in Nashville. That employee was just let go after letting a promo photo get out of a guitar with a major chip in the finish. The photo went through several sets of eyes before being released publicly (I feel bad for the guy, honestly...he's not to blame).
That said, they'll pry my SGJ from my cold dead hands...best $500 guitar ever.
Quote from: madbean on August 12, 2017, 12:22:29 AM
Quote from: BrianS on August 11, 2017, 07:50:15 PM
Its on its way back.
You definitely did the right thing. Gibson does have a bit of a QA problem as we all know.
Funny story (which I am probably totally not supposed to discuss), but my wife works for Mapex/Sonor and has a colleague that works at Gibson here in Nashville. That employee was just let go after letting a promo photo get out of a guitar with a major chip in the finish. The photo went through several sets of eyes before being released publicly (I feel bad for the guy, honestly...he's not to blame).
That said, they'll pry my SGJ from my cold dead hands...best $500 guitar ever.
Poor guy. https://www.gearnews.com/gibson-les-paul-standard-chipped-damaged-site/
Hey it's an awesome color, though.
Quote from: EBK on August 11, 2017, 11:06:53 PM
Anyone else get a minor chuckle from "Gibson Security" on that sticker? ;D
They're probably armed with "axes", so I wouldn't laugh in their faces....
No the freaking mouse patrol could very jump out the box and eat your face lol.