It's nice to see pedal parts plus carrying some stocked powder coated enclosures now. The selection isn't huge but it will be a great alternative to waiting a couple weeks for their enclosures. In my opinion they have the best quality control. Just my two cents and I thought I'd pass on the info.
Josh
Oh man! Finally! I love PPP...but my only beef is how long they take to ship your enclosure. Their quality is the best though, so it's always worth the wait, but man, now it will be so much easier for us to get something quick. Thanks for the headsup Josh!
-Kaleb
Yeah! Thats great. They definitely have the best enclosures and great prices. Ive ordered from virtually every source and they do the best job hands down.
I know it seems like a silly question but what deficiencies are you guys finding with the other powdercoated boxes? Uneven coverage, orange peel?
Quote from: jimmybjj on September 21, 2011, 06:51:38 PM
I know it seems like a silly question but what deficiencies are you guys finding with the other powdercoated boxes? Uneven coverage, orange peel?
I don't think the issue is that there's something wrong with them, but it's that you can get them faster now that they're in stock.
The op said the "quality control" is better and I have heard that several times. The consensus is ppp is a better product, I'm just wondering why or how it is better.
Well, I know that when you order a painted enclosure (before they had prepainted ones), they're "made to order" I guess you would say. They powder coat them once they get the order in. So I guess that adds to the QC moreso than just grabbing a random enclosure from the already painted section.
I hope that makes sense lol I've been sick so I might just be rambling...
Quote from: jimmybjj on September 21, 2011, 06:51:38 PM
I know it seems like a silly question but what deficiencies are you guys finding with the other powdercoated boxes? Uneven coverage, orange peel?
This.
From the large hairy elephant place. All my PPP enclosures are perfect. Will buy the rest of mine from PPP.
Bonus question: can you guess what pedal it is just based on the picture? Should be pretty obvious.
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Quote from: crash on September 22, 2011, 12:14:21 AM
Bonus question: can you guess what pedal it is just based on the picture? Should be pretty obvious.
LaVache (Les Lius)?
Yeah my painted enclosures from large hairy elephant place had scratches all over them :(
FWIW, i hear they have a CNC now for drilling, and it sounds like they are drilling before powder coating (at least for my order).
Quote from: crash on September 22, 2011, 12:14:21 AM
From the large hairy elephant place. All my PPP enclosures are perfect. Will buy the rest of mine from PPP.
Bonus question: can you guess what pedal it is just based on the picture? Should be pretty obvious.
haha, large hairy elephant place. Thats really crappy, i can't believe they let something like that leave the store. I would be embarrassed.
Small bear does a pretty decent job powder coating, but they dont have many colors. Their 5 dollar 1590BB seconds are actually better than many of the mammoths at full price. PPP just has a better color selection and better prices. The enclosures ive ordered from mammoth were all 125B's and the enclosures themselves were a great price, but cheaply made. The bottom plates didnt line up exactly right and the screws had a hard time fitting. They still function, but for fifty cents more, i couldve had a much better one from PPP. The powder coating jobs were not very good either, but that didnt really bother me as much.
Quote from: dwstanford on September 22, 2011, 04:00:48 AM
Small bear does a pretty decent job powder coating, but they dont have many colors. Their 5 dollar 1590BB seconds are actually better than many of the mammoths at full price. PPP just has a better color selection and better prices. The enclosures ive ordered from mammoth were all 125B's and the enclosures themselves were a great price, but cheaply made. The bottom plates didnt line up exactly right and the screws had a hard time fitting. They still function, but for fifty cents more, i couldve had a much better one from PPP. The powder coating jobs were not very good either, but that didnt really bother me as much.
The Smallbear ones come prepowder coated from Hammond. If you check Hammond's website you can see them in their catalog.
Pedal Parts Plus does theirs in house, and that's why they have such a great variety of colour options in all their enclosures. Because they do them in house you can get any of their in stock enclosures in any of their colours, which I really like a lot. It's mostly why I almost exclusively use PPP. Their quality control hasn't always been perfect for me, but their supreme customer service has made me a loyal customer. One thing I really appreciate from them is the 125BB they have going. That 125BB is super awesome, but I think it's mostly Steve at Smallbear's doing. Smallbear is super awesome as well.
Mammoth does not paint their enclosures in house (AFAIK). If you check the 4site website you can find all the enclosures there too. It's also part of the reason why different size enclosures have different colour options. I have had good experiences with those enclosures, but because of the limited colour selection I haven't had need to go there.
Jacob
i've used mammoth for their 1590A painted boxes and they've all come out great and it was quicker than PPP because it was all prepainted.
The thing I don't understand on that enclosure I got was that it was wrapped nicely in that foam wrapping, so there couldn't have been any damage in shipping. So it had to have been like that when they packaged it. Are they trying to lose customers?
BTW, Yes, it's a LaVache.
I've ordered four enclosures from PPP and they are perfect. I've ordered 6 from Mammoth and was disappointed with all but one. The paint is very thin, the translucent was very uneven and they chip easily. That said, I still use mammoth for other things and am happy otherwise. PPP has awesome customer service.
Yea I just got my third messed up order in a row from big hairy elephant thingy and they will no longer receive my business. I realize I'm a little fish with my 100 dollar orders every two weeks or so but this is really unacceptable. Big ups and big apologies to PedalPartsPlus, I'm back!
I've yet to order enclosures from PPP but they do have a huge selection that I don't see most other smaller shops.
I recently ordered some from mammoth, the first powder-coated enclosures I've bought yet and one of them I'd say is pretty poor. I'm gonna make it work, but I felt like it should have been sanded even before painting at least. Oh well, the other one looks amazing!
That's why I plan on doing it myself soon!
I'm curious, to what extent could the damage from Mammoth have been shipping? Or, did you already rule that out?
I just got a UPS order and the box was all beat to poo and my oil based grain sealer was leaking >:(
Just curious. I use Mammoth a lot for everything else as I paint my enclosures.
I picked up two belms and two custon drilled and painted enclosures from PPP. Pretty long wait for custom but they are excellent quality!
You guys should really email Blake from "that harry elephant place"
I think he should know that you guys are still receiving blems. It's not shipping damage. I can attest to that.
Josh
I know 100% it wasn't from shipping damage. The one w/ blems also has a few spots where I can see the metal through the paint. I feel like I'm being a little over observant but I can't help it. Just doesn't seem like its worth the mind-space/time to complain and get another to replace it or my money back. I'm not gonna be excited when it chips though... :-\
The packing from Mammoth is quite good so none of this is shipping damage. My complaints center around missing knobs, wrong color knobs, wrong value components, missing components, bad switches [not their fault I know] and coated enclosures. The enclosures are what is killing me: severe orange peel, large divots under the coating on the face of the pedal [unacceptable for a customer build], coatings so thin and uneven you can see and feel the zig-zag spray pattern, coatings so light they don't really cover the metal and feel like sandpaper.
Blake is a good dude and always makes things right but pushing my ship dates back a week or two while I wait on new boxes makes me look like a jerk. Sending a complaint email after every order is making me feel like a jerk. I really like their knob selection and they're great for picking up the few odd value components I need for particular projects but the QC and order pickers have to bring their attention to detail level into line with Blake's customer service if they want my repeat business.
I agree.