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Title: Caution: gruesome guts of first pedal thread.
Post by: blearyeyes on February 13, 2018, 09:53:01 AM
Oh the humanity!(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180213/25665112ff13e15ca8d3e8a750af3972.jpg)


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Title: Caution: gruesome guts of first pedal thread.
Post by: blearyeyes on February 13, 2018, 09:54:33 AM
It actually works. Hehe. I opened this up and marveled.


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Title: Re: Caution: gruesome guts of first pedal thread.
Post by: chromesphere on February 13, 2018, 10:56:05 AM
The gauge of that wire is impressive :D

Whats the effect?

Heres mine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZepm82CPCo

Title: Re: Caution: gruesome guts of first pedal thread.
Post by: blearyeyes on February 13, 2018, 11:05:35 AM
It's a Tonepad Guv'nor. I replaced the metal DC jack! Man that's so funny. Metal DC jacks are a right of passage I guess. SMH.
Title: Re: Caution: gruesome guts of first pedal thread.
Post by: EBK on February 13, 2018, 12:00:59 PM
My first pedal was a very elaborate kill switch.  It had an envelope follower made with some sort of FET, a state variable filter, and probably a buffer.  It worked perfectly, producing a very believable approximation of silence.  It probably had a bit of noise, but nothing too distracting.   :P 

I never got a picture of it though, that I know of, anyway.  Those were the days of film, where you forgot what you took pictures of by the time you finished the roll, and sometimes you forgot where the finished roll went before you could take it to the store to be developed.
Title: Re: Caution: gruesome guts of first pedal thread.
Post by: GrindCustoms on February 13, 2018, 01:08:16 PM
My first built was a BYOC "Confidence Booster", i still have the circuit and it's working but.. ..the box was a total mess, my drilling template was more than off. Probably have some pictures somewhere, will try to find that!


Quote from: EBK on February 13, 2018, 12:00:59 PM
My first pedal was a very elaborate kill switch.  It had an envelope follower made with some sort of FET, a state variable filter, and probably a buffer.  It worked perfectly, producing a very believable approximation of silence.  It probably had a bit of noise, but nothing too distracting.   :P 

I never got a picture of it though, that I know of, anyway.  Those were the days of film, where you forgot what you took pictures of by the time you finished the roll, and sometimes you forgot where the finished roll went before you could take it to the store to be developed.

Why did'nt you just run the signal to ground? ...i mean... ...why?... ..you got me mesmerized with that complexity of a kill switch! lolol
Title: Re: Caution: gruesome guts of first pedal thread.
Post by: GrindCustoms on February 13, 2018, 01:16:21 PM
Found it!

(https://scontent.fymy1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/294678_179624255444486_3660327_n.jpg?oh=735a327c9ccecb7361ed343f1363dc48&oe=5B098462)

(https://scontent.fymy1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/308402_180034875403424_1977467_n.jpg?oh=4afc40f570466c4e5755138f714b2d95&oe=5ADC0341)

(https://scontent.fymy1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/293315_180034945403417_875817_n.jpg?oh=8bb285d4f1d9743c226a89f5bbdb49e9&oe=5B1402F9)
Title: Re: Caution: gruesome guts of first pedal thread.
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on February 13, 2018, 01:17:55 PM
I dove into the deep end. First build was a Sansamp GT2  :o

Didn't work and I spent about 2 weeks debugging. Turned out, the board from Tonepad was faulty and there was a broken trace under the masking. Hey, at least I got a lot of experience.

Still remember the feeling of when it first fired up! Hooked instantly!!
Title: Re: Caution: gruesome guts of first pedal thread.
Post by: EBK on February 13, 2018, 01:21:21 PM
Quote from: GrindCustoms on February 13, 2018, 01:08:16 PM
Why did'nt you just run the signal to ground? ...i mean... ...why?... ..you got me mesmerized with that complexity of a kill switch! lolol
I was mesmerized too!  What I really had a hard time understanding at first was why the person who designed it (It came from a book by RA Penfold) kept referring to it as an auto-wah when I clearly proved empirically that it did nothing of the sort.   ;D

(I eventually did get it to make sound though.)
Title: Re: Caution: gruesome guts of first pedal thread.
Post by: GrindCustoms on February 13, 2018, 01:25:34 PM
Quote from: EBK on February 13, 2018, 01:21:21 PM
Quote from: GrindCustoms on February 13, 2018, 01:08:16 PM
Why did'nt you just run the signal to ground? ...i mean... ...why?... ..you got me mesmerized with that complexity of a kill switch! lolol
I was mesmerized too!  What I really had a hard to understanding at first was why the person who designed it (It came from a book by RA Penfold) kept referring to it as an auto-wah when I clearly proved empirically that it did nothing of the sort.   ;D

(I eventually did get it to make sound though.)

HAHAHAHAHAHA!  I genuinely laughed hard here... ...i really missed the irony/sarcasm in your post, my bad.... ...but this is quite funny now.
Title: Re: Caution: gruesome guts of first pedal thread.
Post by: juansolo on February 13, 2018, 07:08:35 PM
The first pedal I built, BYOC kit:

(http://juansolo.co.uk/stompage/images/diablo-i.jpg)

The third pedal I made, first one that was totally from scratch on vero, a little scruffy...:

(http://juansolo.co.uk/stompage/images/maltese-i.jpg)
Title: Re: Caution: gruesome guts of first pedal thread.
Post by: EBK on February 13, 2018, 07:16:55 PM
I love how the zip ties are trying their best to help there.   ;D
Title: Re: Caution: gruesome guts of first pedal thread.
Post by: blearyeyes on February 13, 2018, 07:35:35 PM
Quote from: EBK on February 13, 2018, 07:16:55 PM
I love how the zip ties are trying their best to help there.   ;D

Their work is cut out for them.
Title: Re: Caution: gruesome guts of first pedal thread.
Post by: movinginslomo on February 14, 2018, 12:06:06 AM
Quote from: EBK on February 13, 2018, 07:16:55 PM
I love how the zip ties are trying their best to help there.   ;D

We cannae hold tha beast cap'n! it's too much spaghetti!!

ah my first was some dubious ebay fuzz kit on lug turret board. Crappy pots with plastic shafts, no enclosure. Got a huge enclosure off mouser and masked/sprayed a crude union jack on it. Sounded lame, but it actually worked. Gave it away at some point.
Title: Re: Caution: gruesome guts of first pedal thread.
Post by: mjg on February 14, 2018, 03:00:45 AM
Here's my first one.  You can see the guts from the outside, because it's a clear plastic container.  It's a basic dirt pedal with the following features :

- Ability to receive local radio stations when you touch the switches
- battery powered
- held it all together with a rubber band. 

(http://graybloomfield.com/guitar/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/PA017963-1024x768.jpg)

(http://graybloomfield.com/guitar/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/PA017956-1024x768.jpg)
Title: Re: Caution: gruesome guts of first pedal thread.
Post by: Tremster on February 14, 2018, 08:09:58 AM
Don't have a picture of the guts of my first pedal, which was a Musikding Red Llama kit.
But it looked as bad as you can imagine.
Title: Re: Caution: gruesome guts of first pedal thread.
Post by: juansolo on February 14, 2018, 09:27:05 AM
Quote from: EBK on February 13, 2018, 07:16:55 PM
I love how the zip ties are trying their best to help there.   ;D

I don't really have an excuse. We tried to blend two pedals together on that one. It's a valvecaster and an LBP1 on vero. First time I'd ever done it, no idea if it would work. So I built it on the desk and actually liked the sound of it. I may have totally over estimated the lengths of the wires. It's also using giant pots. I measured them wrong and drilled the holes all wonky as a result. So I had to 'modify' those to fit and hide some mistakes under some stuck on bits ;)

Overall the pedal was a complete mess, but actually sounded good. I ran it for some time before it was binned for something new.
Title: Re: Caution: gruesome guts of first pedal thread.
Post by: selfdestroyer on February 14, 2018, 10:39:45 PM
I have shared my disaster builds before but this still takes the cake!

The baggy was there to add a protective film to keep the escaping electrons at bay. Very important for the TONEZ.
(http://music.codydeschenes.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/20130310-232333.jpg)

Cody
Title: Re: Caution: gruesome guts of first pedal thread.
Post by: alanp on February 15, 2018, 04:26:24 AM
My "Mr Futs" (Lovetone Ringstinger clone) has a plastic bag around the daughterboard with the transformers. (Yes, I'm a horrible lazy person for not bolting it to the side.)

(http://alanp.info/images/trem%20guts.JPG)

No, a battery does NOT actually fit in there.

(http://alanp.info/images/rangemaster%20neg%20gnd.jpg)

No, it didn't pick up any radio stations :P
Title: Re: Caution: gruesome guts of first pedal thread.
Post by: matmosphere on February 15, 2018, 05:15:40 AM
Love it. I'll have to dig out my first build and join in.

The plastic bag thing is a clever idea. I encased my first couple boards in electrical tape to keep them from shorting.
Title: Re: Caution: gruesome guts of first pedal thread.
Post by: alanp on February 15, 2018, 05:19:28 AM
(http://alanp.info/images/cd%20verb%20guts.JPG)

Funny you should say that...
Title: Re: Caution: gruesome guts of first pedal thread.
Post by: EBK on February 15, 2018, 05:38:57 AM
Quote from: Matmosphere on February 15, 2018, 05:15:40 AM
I encased my first couple boards in electrical tape to keep them from shorting.
We're not supposed to do that?!  My entry in the BOTY 2017 contest essentially used a slight variation of that technique!
http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=26825.msg263154#msg263154
The only pedal I've built that has an absolutely permanent place on my pedalboard was built this way too.   ;)

Standoffs are so standoffish.   ;D
Title: Re: Caution: gruesome guts of first pedal thread.
Post by: blearyeyes on February 15, 2018, 06:09:11 AM
Electrical Tape Encasement.  A new art, a new mojo.