This was a commissioned build for a local player. He wanted a Muff/Klon/Zen/Riot in one enclosure, but each circuit needed to have it's own I/O so that he could use an external switcher on his board. I elected to go with shorting jacks, so they can be wired individually or you can just use the two outside jacks and have it be a multi. Because of the 8 enclosed jacks, I had to use a slightly taller enclosure than I usually would have. I made some shorting boards to simplify the wiring a bit. It's not my neatest gutwork, but I ended up having to take it apart a few times because I had to both make changes to the faceplate and ream out the holes in the box a little bit. I also decided to wire the shorting jacks above the fray, which doesn't look quite as nice, but has a functional advantage in this case.
Photographs were a bit challenging because the plate is so reflective.
(https://i.imgur.com/eap66UR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/zmhudSM.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/RjThMyH.jpg)
Wow Super cool and super tidy! Great job
This is amazing work. I always enjoy your builds.
The shorting jacks is an interesting idea. I didn't know there was such a thing but have often wondered about ways to put a loop inside a multi without having to connect it with a patch cable when it's not in use. Perhaps this is the solution. Got a store link? The only ones I'm getting from Google are not from my trusted vendors.
Quote from: sjaustin on October 10, 2018, 12:33:28 PM
This is amazing work. I always enjoy your builds.
The shorting jacks is an interesting idea. I didn't know there was such a thing but have often wondered about ways to put a loop inside a multi without having to connect it with a patch cable when it's not in use. Perhaps this is the solution. Got a store link? The only ones I'm getting from Google are not from my trusted vendors.
There are LOTS of options, I usually go with Neutrik or Amphenol. I used narrow footprint jacks on these, but you can use the wider ones just fine as well. Here are a couple I keep around:
https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Amphenol-Audio/ACJM-MHDRM?qs=%2fha2pyFaduioDc2dmENTOVHiL9cFKYOTfdr4QPDFo8BjGC4WjzuuPg%3d%3d
https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Neutrik/NMJ4HCD2?qs=%2fha2pyFadugs9GczV%2fdqJQUgl1peQhSIeb5aYoO4Dkg%3d
These are PCB mount, but you can get solder tab. These are also mono, but you can get them in stereo as well. Both Neutrik and Amphenol have catalogs that help you choose the options you are looking for fairly easily.
Awesome job, I think the gutwork looks great.
The dragon plate is amazing.
That is amazing
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Wow, that's very impressive man. You've topped yourself.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Super cool, that plate is beautiful!
Wow, that's a georgeous build! And I was just briefly believing you about messy wiring, then I remembered who you are and wasn't dissapointed once I scrolled down to the gut shot. That muff board is also pleasingly symmetrical :)
Any reason you still use 3pdt and not optical or relay bypass?
For god's sake, Dave, clean up that wiring. :P
Absolutely stunning!
Beautiful inside and out! ♥
That is a thing of beauty right there.
I can see a finger print on the second photo.... rock shock horror...
... just kiddin'. Most excellent of course. What else could I add while my jaw is on the floor...?
Quote from: cooder on October 10, 2018, 10:53:55 PM
I can see a finger print on the second photo.... rock shock horror...
... just kiddin'. Most excellent of course. What else could I add while my jaw is on the floor...?
He does, however, look very serious in that pic, with that brow-creased focus. ;)
Wow, that is great looking. And a very cool solution for the ins/outs.
I know you're happy at your day job, but you could make a good little business if you wanted to. Pretty much everything about your stuff screams high end.
Quote from: m-Kresol on October 10, 2018, 05:51:07 PM
Wow, that's a georgeous build! And I was just briefly believing you about messy wiring, then I remembered who you are and wasn't dissapointed once I scrolled down to the gut shot. That muff board is also pleasingly symmetrical :)
Any reason you still use 3pdt and not optical or relay bypass?
It's a good question. I have had very few failures with 3PDT switches over the years, so the switch to optical wasn't really worth it to me. I do prefer relay bypass (we use it in all the FFX pedals) and will likely start using it more in larger builds. This particular build is almost never going to use the built in switches (it will use an external switcher on the board) so it wouldn't have been worth the added cost for the person who commissioned it.
With the mini builds I do, I'd really like to find a non-click momentary footswitch in the same form factor as a standard vertical footswitch. The ones we use for FFX are like the Carling style, which won't fit with the full size jacks I use in my 1590A builds. I'm not a fan of the momentaries with a click (like the Alpha 2PDT and similar). I suspect the right switch is out there, but I haven't dug very deep.
Quote from: pickdropper on October 11, 2018, 11:36:04 AM
I'm not a fan of the momentaries with a click (like the Alpha 2PDT and similar).
I have had at least 5 of these fail on me in builds from BLMS. Funny thing is that when they failed, they failed as latching (no momentary movement)
I do like the tactile response from the momentary click but, just wish I could find more reliable alternatives.
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on October 11, 2018, 01:12:24 PM
Quote from: pickdropper on October 11, 2018, 11:36:04 AM
I'm not a fan of the momentaries with a click (like the Alpha 2PDT and similar).
I have had at least 5 of these fail on me in builds from BLMS. Funny thing is that when they failed, they failed as latching (no momentary movement)
I do like the tactile response from the momentary click but, just wish I could find more reliable alternatives.
Have you tried the Alpha brand ones from Small Bear? The knock-off ones I've seen aren't built quite as well.
Quote from: pickdropper on October 11, 2018, 11:36:04 AM
Quote from: m-Kresol on October 10, 2018, 05:51:07 PM
Wow, that's a georgeous build! And I was just briefly believing you about messy wiring, then I remembered who you are and wasn't dissapointed once I scrolled down to the gut shot. That muff board is also pleasingly symmetrical :)
Any reason you still use 3pdt and not optical or relay bypass?
It's a good question. I have had very few failures with 3PDT switches over the years, so the switch to optical wasn't really worth it to me. I do prefer relay bypass (we use it in all the FFX pedals) and will likely start using it more in larger builds. This particular build is almost never going to use the built in switches (it will use an external switcher on the board) so it wouldn't have been worth the added cost for the person who commissioned it.
With the mini builds I do, I'd really like to find a non-click momentary footswitch in the same form factor as a standard vertical footswitch. The ones we use for FFX are like the Carling style, which won't fit with the full size jacks I use in my 1590A builds. I'm not a fan of the momentaries with a click (like the Alpha 2PDT and similar). I suspect the right switch is out there, but I haven't dug very deep.
paging Pickdropper:
https://lovemyswitches.com/super-premium-spdt-momentary-foot-switch-soft-click/
I'm gonna need a little wiring board with Relay Bypass to have the most expensive switching option possible :)
Quote from: playpunk on October 11, 2018, 07:12:30 PM
Quote from: pickdropper on October 11, 2018, 11:36:04 AM
Quote from: m-Kresol on October 10, 2018, 05:51:07 PM
Wow, that's a georgeous build! And I was just briefly believing you about messy wiring, then I remembered who you are and wasn't dissapointed once I scrolled down to the gut shot. That muff board is also pleasingly symmetrical :)
Any reason you still use 3pdt and not optical or relay bypass?
It's a good question. I have had very few failures with 3PDT switches over the years, so the switch to optical wasn't really worth it to me. I do prefer relay bypass (we use it in all the FFX pedals) and will likely start using it more in larger builds. This particular build is almost never going to use the built in switches (it will use an external switcher on the board) so it wouldn't have been worth the added cost for the person who commissioned it.
With the mini builds I do, I'd really like to find a non-click momentary footswitch in the same form factor as a standard vertical footswitch. The ones we use for FFX are like the Carling style, which won't fit with the full size jacks I use in my 1590A builds. I'm not a fan of the momentaries with a click (like the Alpha 2PDT and similar). I suspect the right switch is out there, but I haven't dug very deep.
paging Pickdropper:
https://lovemyswitches.com/super-premium-spdt-momentary-foot-switch-soft-click/
I'm gonna need a little wiring board with Relay Bypass to have the most expensive switching option possible :)
Ha!
Typo'd from my iphone
Quote from: playpunk on October 11, 2018, 07:12:30 PM
Quote from: pickdropper on October 11, 2018, 11:36:04 AM
Quote from: m-Kresol on October 10, 2018, 05:51:07 PM
Wow, that's a georgeous build! And I was just briefly believing you about messy wiring, then I remembered who you are and wasn't dissapointed once I scrolled down to the gut shot. That muff board is also pleasingly symmetrical :)
Any reason you still use 3pdt and not optical or relay bypass?
It's a good question. I have had very few failures with 3PDT switches over the years, so the switch to optical wasn't really worth it to me. I do prefer relay bypass (we use it in all the FFX pedals) and will likely start using it more in larger builds. This particular build is almost never going to use the built in switches (it will use an external switcher on the board) so it wouldn't have been worth the added cost for the person who commissioned it.
With the mini builds I do, I'd really like to find a non-click momentary footswitch in the same form factor as a standard vertical footswitch. The ones we use for FFX are like the Carling style, which won't fit with the full size jacks I use in my 1590A builds. I'm not a fan of the momentaries with a click (like the Alpha 2PDT and similar). I suspect the right switch is out there, but I haven't dug very deep.
paging Pickdropper:
https://lovemyswitches.com/super-premium-spdt-momentary-foot-switch-soft-click/
I'm gonna need a little wiring board with Relay Bypass to have the most expensive switching option possible :)
I wish there was a less expensive option, but I will probabaly give that a shot.
Dang, Dave. You just keep bringin' the heat! We've pretty much run out of superlatives for your builds. This is just beautiful. It's just a beautiful thing to look at, and smartly done too. I like your solution for the switching jacks. I may steal that page from your book. It's much cleaner than open frame tip shunting jacks and all the associated wiring.
That is a really cool idea :) I really like the way the pots are laid out parallel to each switch :)