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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: madbean on October 16, 2018, 12:23:11 AM

Title: Do I need a Moog?
Post by: madbean on October 16, 2018, 12:23:11 AM
I really kind of want the Behringer Model D. It's not expensive and I have a keyboard controller. My buddy Graham has one and likes it. But, I also really kind of want a Subsequent 37. Because it is badass. But, also expensive. I like the SubPhatty, too. I think I just want something Moog because well, reasons. Also, I think I want to build some synths down the line but much later.
Title: Re: Do I need a Moog?
Post by: gtr2 on October 16, 2018, 12:26:58 AM
The answer is always YES ;)
Title: Re: Do I need a Moog?
Post by: gordo on October 16, 2018, 12:43:08 AM
Behringer is a lot cheaper so if you find you never use it beyond the honeymoon phase you can flip it with little loss.  Behringer build quality is really good these days too.
Title: Re: Do I need a Moog?
Post by: matmosphere on October 16, 2018, 12:48:44 AM
I've been thinking about a model d as well. Hits affordable and sounds great. I'd much rather give Moog my money, but I can afford a model d with some planning and budgeting, probably not as true with Moog.
Title: Re: Do I need a Moog?
Post by: Strategy on October 16, 2018, 02:47:18 AM
Also look at a 2nd hand slim phatty, an older model but rock solid. Used ones on ebay and reverb are super reasonable. Like the Behringer clone, you'd need a MIDI keyboard to control it.
Title: Re: Do I need a Moog?
Post by: jjjimi84 on October 16, 2018, 02:51:39 AM
Do i need 14 guitars? No. Do i need 7 amps? Nope. Do I need 80+ pedals with 60+ more to build? No.

But if I was to ask you "do i need a moog"?

You would say "hell yeah, you do"

So.....hell yeah you do, you deserve it.

Treat yo self
Title: Re: Do I need a Moog?
Post by: peAk on October 16, 2018, 03:35:58 AM
Moog's build quality is top notch. Out of all my synths, the Sub Phatty is just on another level. The keys, knobs, switches, just everything feels rock solid. Sort of makes other synths feel toy-ish.

That's said, if I hadn't already built a minimoog clone, I'd be all over that behringer. It's just too affordable to not get.



Title: Re: Do I need a Moog?
Post by: JakeFuzz on October 16, 2018, 03:44:59 AM
I've got a Behringer Model D. Its awesome. Its one of those things I can just sit and tweak knobs on for hours making ridiculous space laser sounds. You can definitely create some classic monophonic tones too. I've got a JP-08 too which covers those huge 80's movie synth chords. Both are small and really fun. I can recommend either depending on what you're going for.
Title: Re: Do I need a Moog?
Post by: alanp on October 16, 2018, 04:41:56 AM
Quote from: madbean on October 16, 2018, 12:23:11 AM
Also, I think I want to build some synths down the line but much later.

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Title: Re: Do I need a Moog?
Post by: dont-tase-me-bro on October 16, 2018, 11:33:40 AM
I have a few moogerfooger pedals - they are built like a tank.  It sucks how big they are, but they turn out a ridiculous product. 
Title: Re: Do I need a Moog?
Post by: skyled on October 17, 2018, 10:41:07 PM
Moog is great and all, but being able to play chords makes an amazing difference over the typical squeaks and squeals of most monosynths.
Title: Re: Do I need a Moog?
Post by: matmosphere on October 17, 2018, 11:06:28 PM
Quote from: dont-tase-me-bro on October 16, 2018, 11:33:40 AM
I have a few moogerfooger pedals - they are built like a tank.  It sucks how big they are, but they turn out a ridiculous product.

It's too bad that they stopped making Moogerfoogers recently. They are all incredible sounding pedals. I have the Ring Mod and it has by far the best tremolo sound I've ever used.
Title: Re: Do I need a Moog?
Post by: oip on October 18, 2018, 02:58:48 AM
check out the grandmother!  it sounds like drinking from a chocolate fountain
Title: Re: Do I need a Moog?
Post by: peAk on October 18, 2018, 11:49:47 AM
Quote from: skyled on October 17, 2018, 10:41:07 PM
Moog is great and all, but being able to play chords makes an amazing difference over the typical squeaks and squeals of most monosynths.

That's easily solved:

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MoogOne16--moog-one-16-voice-analog-synthesizer?mrkgcl=28&mrkgadid=3248788352&rkg_id=0&product_id=MoogOne16&campaigntype=shopping&campaign=aaShopping%20-%20Core%20-%20Keyboards%20&%20Synthesizers&adgroup=Keyboards%20&%20Synthesizers%20-%20Synthesizers&placement=google&adpos=1o1&creative=217452498644&device=m&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=CjwKCAjw3qDeBRBkEiwAsqeO7qYo83MubBU2efwD_XzoKGV4TUSGPVYGs4ne03PYZCKdlBvdOfULchoCwXAQAvD_BwE
Title: Re: Do I need a Moog?
Post by: thesmokingman on October 18, 2018, 07:23:52 PM
I feel like this needs a snazzy and humorous visio flow chart where all eventual outcomes lead to yes
Title: Re: Do I need a Moog?
Post by: skyled on October 19, 2018, 02:01:48 AM
Quote from: peAk on October 18, 2018, 11:49:47 AM
Quote from: skyled on October 17, 2018, 10:41:07 PM
Moog is great and all, but being able to play chords makes an amazing difference over the typical squeaks and squeals of most monosynths.

That's easily solved:

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MoogOne16--moog-one-16-voice-analog-synthesizer?mrkgcl=28&mrkgadid=3248788352&rkg_id=0&product_id=MoogOne16&campaigntype=shopping&campaign=aaShopping%20-%20Core%20-%20Keyboards%20&%20Synthesizers&adgroup=Keyboards%20&%20Synthesizers%20-%20Synthesizers&placement=google&adpos=1o1&creative=217452498644&device=m&matchtype=&network=g&gclid=CjwKCAjw3qDeBRBkEiwAsqeO7qYo83MubBU2efwD_XzoKGV4TUSGPVYGs4ne03PYZCKdlBvdOfULchoCwXAQAvD_BwE

Yes of course. Why spend $250 when you could spend $8k instead? Doing the math, you could buy 16 Behringer Model D's (at $250 which is what they go for used around here) for half the cost of the Moog One 16 voice. The obvious answer though is to buy the 16 Model D's and the Moog One.
Title: Re: Do I need a Moog?
Post by: gordo on October 19, 2018, 02:41:54 AM
^this is why we like new people around here...
Title: Re: Do I need a Moog?
Post by: Rockhorst on October 20, 2018, 12:28:03 AM
I still have a Crowminius board + faceplate waiting to be populated that I'm never going to get to...In case you're interested PM :) DIY is sorta your thing you know ;)
Title: Re: Do I need a Moog?
Post by: jim-analog (analogbros.com) on December 11, 2018, 09:32:43 PM

Greetings,

  I heard about the "B" MM when it was first being discussed. Does anyone  know if they used thru hole or SMD? If it's thru hole, I think it would be a SUPER cool unit to mess with and modify. If SMD, not quite so much, but could still be neat to use as a sound generator depending on how well of a job "B" did.  I think it was going to have both MIDI and CV I/O, so a lot of interfacing possibilities are there.

I have a '74 MM and would really like to add a bunch of CV and other I/O to it, but it's worth way to much $ to mess with. I bought it really cheap in the mid '80s when there wasn't much demand for them and did a lot of refurb on it. It's a VERY cool mono-synth though, great, huge tones, a true classic.

So to answer your question, IMO if you're just getting into analog synths, the "B" could be an inexpensive way to see what you think of that world and perhaps mutate it into something even cooler.

Would like to hear opinions from anyone who bought one, particularly if you've used it as part of a larger modular/semi-modular system.

Regards, Jim
Title: Re: Do I need a Moog?
Post by: jimilee on December 11, 2018, 10:49:28 PM
Yes, the answer is always yes.


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Title: Re: Do I need a Moog?
Post by: alanp on December 12, 2018, 04:22:08 AM
The Behringer minimoog is SMD. I think I have a picture of the main PCB somewhere. It's an intimidating bit of layout work.
Title: Re: Do I need a Moog?
Post by: jim-analog (analogbros.com) on December 12, 2018, 07:07:12 PM


Greetings,

  Thanks for that reply AlanP. Guess it (SMD, machine built) was the only way to hit the price point. That does make any hardware modification quite a bit more difficult. I guess it's still cool for the price, particularly when compared to a Moog if the sounds are decent. 

Regards, Jim