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Title: Over Dose - Shout out to The Mule
Post by: TNblueshawk on October 20, 2011, 07:27:28 PM
So this is a BYOC OD2 with a boost. The boost is almost a separate circuit on its own. Can be run by itself or in conjunction with the OD but all the knobs and toggles only interact with the OD portion. Built it all to MosFET specs. Still have to play with the trimmers to get what my ears think they like. I've got it set to the old TS of yesteryear values right now.

(http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/598/img1440jg.jpg)

(http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/526/img1435z.jpg)
Title: Re: Over Dose - Shout out to The Mule
Post by: nzCdog on October 20, 2011, 07:52:48 PM
WOW!  That finish is incredible... how did you coat it?
Very nice work  8)
Title: Re: Over Dose - Shout out to The Mule
Post by: TNblueshawk on October 20, 2011, 09:07:39 PM
Thanks nz. I used Envirotex Lite epoxy.

Someone over at BYOC said they could see my shiny bald head, or as I call it my growing forehead, in the pic  :P
Title: Re: Over Dose - Shout out to The Mule
Post by: nzCdog on October 20, 2011, 09:32:07 PM
lol!

Do you mean this? (http://eti-usa.com/envirotex-lite/)

Wish I had heard about it sooner, it sounds like great stuff
Title: Re: Over Dose - Shout out to The Mule
Post by: dwstanford on October 20, 2011, 09:44:37 PM
That's a cool looking pedal.  I love that finish. How do you like using the epoxy?  Do you drill the holes first or after the epoxy?  How did you do the decals? 
Title: Re: Over Dose - Shout out to The Mule
Post by: chromesphere on October 21, 2011, 03:11:33 AM
<Throws 1 day old powdercoating gun aside>

Must...know...more...  :o

Awesome finish..
Title: Re: Over Dose - Shout out to The Mule
Post by: sgmezei on October 21, 2011, 04:48:22 AM
DUDE. I am a HUGE Mule fan. I love the pedal. The finish looks amazing and I am going to have to find some of this stuff. I just picked up some clear casting epoxy but I want what your using.

Looks amazing. Long live the Mule.
Title: Re: Over Dose - Shout out to The Mule
Post by: keysandguitars on October 21, 2011, 07:14:28 AM
I third the Mule! I'm going to see Warren Haynes Band Saturday night! I wish it was Mule, but this band grooves.

That epoxy finish looks amazing. I too need to look into it after I try clear powder coating. I was actually playing on my OD2 built to mosfet specs. I've got the Burr Brown op amp in there right now and really like the way it sounds. Great work and nice shout out.
Title: Re: Over Dose - Shout out to The Mule
Post by: TNblueshawk on October 21, 2011, 12:16:51 PM
Geez, thanks doodz. Keysand, let me know how Warren and his boys sound. I haven't picked up his new solo album yet, just haven't got around to it. I don't know who his solo travel band is. Should be an awesome show.

Nz, that is the stuff. I think Parks? makes an epoxy too I've seen at Home Depot that I "think" is the same kind of deal but I haven't used it.

The Envirotex I typically get from Michaels (go on line and print off a 40% coupon for one purchase) or Ace Hardware has it too at a suprisingly good price, at least the one by me. Hobby Lobby has it but man do they mark that puppy up.

There is a learning curve like anything else using it. Probably the best thing I could do if you don't mind taking a few minutes to read through it is link you here to the do's and don'ts and man have I done all the don'ts  ::)  http://www.buildyourownclone.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=27837&start=0

There is also a tutorial of sorts at guitarpcb but you of course have to register to get in over at Barry's place.

Decal wise, I have a Mac so I use the program Pixelmator that is more compatible with it. I probably only use 1% of what it could do but I just pull an image off Google Images and play with it in one way or another to get what I want. I used a white back water slide on this due to the dark paint job I used.

I'd be happy to answer any specific questions though so just hit me up. I don't claim to be any kind of expert as a lot of cats use this stuff, but I can sure tell you what not to do  ;D I don't recall what is in that thread I linked in all, but a propane torch is a must to get bubbles out. Piece of cake if you pick one up. Takes 5 seconds a couple of times and done.
Title: Re: Over Dose - Shout out to The Mule
Post by: irmcdermott on October 21, 2011, 02:58:44 PM
looks like i'm going to Michaels today...... :)
Title: Re: Over Dose - Shout out to The Mule
Post by: TNblueshawk on October 21, 2011, 04:44:43 PM
Dw, I realized I didn't comment on the drilling.

I drill my holes first and decal it, cut out the decal holes and then pour. If it shrinks the hole too much I just take a hand drill and drill out the epoxy after a few days. Could use a dremmel I guess too. No biggie. Need to be careful still but no issues really. I suppose you could snag that decal some but when you puts knobs, wahsers etc...over the top holes, no issues as it will cover up any little piece you may have got into.

I did do an experiment where I drilled after the pour on a screwed up enclosure. Went well. But, I didn't decal that enclosure to see whether it would grab that decal in that instance. Most do it the way above who I've talked with.

I think you asked about decals and really the template I used was this one for water slides http://www.buildyourownclone.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=8896 It's on the first page. The rest of the thread is just folks commenting but the main part is about halfway down I think.
Title: Re: Over Dose - Shout out to The Mule
Post by: keysandguitars on October 21, 2011, 05:09:51 PM
I've been listening to the new album on grooveshark. Here is a taste on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTGqGFjqQG4&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTGqGFjqQG4&feature=related)

I don't know the musicians, but from what I've listened to thus far, it's a rippin band.
Title: Re: Over Dose - Shout out to The Mule
Post by: TNblueshawk on October 24, 2011, 01:43:58 PM
Quote from: keysandguitars on October 21, 2011, 05:09:51 PM
I've been listening to the new album on grooveshark. Here is a taste on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTGqGFjqQG4&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTGqGFjqQG4&feature=related)

I don't know the musicians, but from what I've listened to thus far, it's a rippin band.

So, what's the word Key, great show? Could you see Warren's pedal board???
Title: Re: Over Dose - Shout out to The Mule
Post by: CK1 on October 24, 2011, 02:52:46 PM
Sweet looking pedal, man!  And I fourth the Mule!
Title: Re: Over Dose - Shout out to The Mule
Post by: keysandguitars on October 24, 2011, 05:28:17 PM
If The Warren Haynes Band is playing in a city near you, GO!!! The show went from 8:30-12am with one set break. Warren opened the show playing three songs solo on acoustic guitar which was a real treat to hear his raw talent on guitar and vocals. The band was absolutely incredible, very tight, very soulful. The call and response interplay between keys, guitar and sax was unreal. They'd often do it over a simple, but groovy vamp and Warren took it inside and out. They played a lot of the new album and a few Mule tunes.

As far as Warren's gear goes, I couldn't see his pedal board, but he kept it pretty simple. The link below is to  a great interview where Warren demonstrates a few licks from the new album and talks about his pedals. He used his rotosphere a fair amount and had some kind of an octave/synth sounding effect. I'm not sure what it was. He played through the PRS and Diaz heads through smaller cabs. I enjoyed the fact that it wasn't as loud as a Mule show, everything was super clear.

http://www.premierguitar.com/Video/20110601/1449/Track_Breakdown_Warren_Haynes_Man_in_Motion_A_Friend_to_You.aspx (http://www.premierguitar.com/Video/20110601/1449/Track_Breakdown_Warren_Haynes_Man_in_Motion_A_Friend_to_You.aspx)
Title: Re: Over Dose - Shout out to The Mule
Post by: TNblueshawk on October 24, 2011, 07:04:43 PM
Oh man, that is too cool. I first learned of Warren through the Allman Bros back in the late 90's and immediately knew this dude had "it". I will make sure I go if he flies through Nashville..hope I didn't miss him. I think I need to check it out.

+1 on his acoustic stuff. I have the Live at Bonnaroo which is killer as well. His blues slide on acoustic is ridiculous too.

My work blocks that interview so I'll check it out later.

Great info man, thanks.

Title: Re: Over Dose - Shout out to The Mule
Post by: bigmufffuzzwizz on October 24, 2011, 11:58:30 PM
That finish is so unreal! Is it supposed to be scratch resistant too?
I went to a Dead show a few years back and Warren Haynes was playing guitar. First time I heard of him and got turned onto to Gov. Mule after that. I'm pretty amazed how he is filling in for AB and GD. Takes much talent!
Title: Re: Over Dose - Shout out to The Mule
Post by: TNblueshawk on October 25, 2011, 04:55:44 PM
Quote from: bigmufffuzzwizz on October 24, 2011, 11:58:30 PM
That finish is so unreal! Is it supposed to be scratch resistant too?
I went to a Dead show a few years back and Warren Haynes was playing guitar. First time I heard of him and got turned onto to Gov. Mule after that. I'm pretty amazed how he is filling in for AB and GD. Takes much talent!

No, unfortunately, it scatches like anything else. Know how I know? When my wrench slipped while tightening a nut  >:(

What you can do with it is repour if it got banged up enough. Comes back to life clear and see through...of course you get a pretty thick coat.

Also, if it gets compressed, maybe something setting on it, it will eventually spring back to life. It is "pliant" in that sense. May take a day or two.
Title: Re: Over Dose - Shout out to The Mule
Post by: irmcdermott on October 29, 2011, 12:55:05 AM
I've poured Envirotex on 2 pedals now and it's great. I've followed the directions on how to use the torch to get bubbles out after 5 minutes, but it hasn't worked at all. Tips?
Title: Re: Over Dose - Shout out to The Mule
Post by: jimmybjj on October 29, 2011, 01:11:36 AM
Quote from: irmcdermott on October 29, 2011, 12:55:05 AM
I've poured Envirotex on 2 pedals now and it's great. I've followed the directions on how to use the torch to get bubbles out after 5 minutes, but it hasn't worked at all. Tips?

I didn't have much success with the torch(i keep getting carbon burn marks), i had better luck with hot breath as soon as its poured. The last couple i did i used a heat gun, it popped all the bubbles and helped get all of the excess epoxy off.
Title: Re: Over Dose - Shout out to The Mule
Post by: irmcdermott on October 29, 2011, 01:46:54 AM
Quote from: jimmybjj on October 29, 2011, 01:11:36 AM
I didn't have much success with the torch(i keep getting carbon burn marks), i had better luck with hot breath as soon as its poured. The last couple i did i used a heat gun, it popped all the bubbles and helped get all of the excess epoxy off.

The burn marks are exactly what I'm getting... no matter how far away (while still being effective), or how fast I "sweep" it I get burns. I've even turned my torch down as low as it will go without shutting off and still no luck.

I don't own a heat gun, but maybe I'll commandeer my wife's blow dryer when she isn't looking the next time I pour an enclosure.

I'm liking this stuff though, just need to get the procedure down. Thanks for the tips Jim.
Title: Re: Over Dose - Shout out to The Mule
Post by: jimmybjj on October 29, 2011, 01:52:27 AM
Quote from: irmcdermott on October 29, 2011, 01:46:54 AM

The burn marks are exactly what I'm getting... no matter how far away (while still being effective), or how fast I "sweep" it I get burns. I've even turned my torch down as low as it will go without shutting off and still no luck.

I don't own a heat gun, but maybe I'll commandeer my wife's blow dryer when she isn't looking the next time I pour an enclosure.

I'm liking this stuff though, just need to get the procedure down. Thanks for the tips Jim.

No problem :) For this application i think a hair dry works better, the heat gets super hot fast. Just be careful about messing up your paint or decal with the heat. The envirotex is a awesome finish but is a pain in the rear, takes lots of patience.
Title: Re: Over Dose - Shout out to The Mule
Post by: irmcdermott on October 29, 2011, 02:42:53 AM
Quote from: jimmybjj on October 29, 2011, 01:52:27 AM
No problem :) For this application i think a hair dry works better, the heat gets super hot fast. Just be careful about messing up your paint or decal with the heat. The envirotex is a awesome finish but is a pain in the rear, takes lots of patience.

Yeah, it does take a lot of patience. I'm looking forward to getting better with this stuff, because I really like the final product.
Title: Re: Over Dose - Shout out to The Mule
Post by: TNblueshawk on October 29, 2011, 12:45:07 PM
Dang, I can't think of why you are getting the burn marks  :-\

I have get them. I start using the torch about a minute into it. Then as I repour the sides I'll use it again right away. I keep the flame pretty high. I assume you guys are using the std propane torch you would use say for soldering copper pipes. I hold it about 9" or so I guess and never lay on any one spot. I sweep it pretty quick. After just a few minutes I don't get any more bubbles unless I pour more over it.

Wish I could offer more suggestions guys.