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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: jimilee on December 17, 2019, 02:50:13 PM

Title: My phaser unicorn has appeared
Post by: jimilee on December 17, 2019, 02:50:13 PM
I have spent years looking for one for less than 150.00

https://www.guitarcenter.com/Daily-Pick.gc
Title: Re: My phaser unicorn has appeared
Post by: matmosphere on December 17, 2019, 03:05:07 PM
Excellent! Congrats to you jimilee
Title: Re: My phaser unicorn has appeared
Post by: woolie on December 17, 2019, 04:06:38 PM
Wow, instabuy. Thx for the heads up.


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Title: Re: My phaser unicorn has appeared
Post by: nzCdog on December 17, 2019, 05:32:15 PM
Yay!
Title: Re: My phaser unicorn has appeared
Post by: Bio77 on December 17, 2019, 06:24:27 PM
Wow, that sounds cool
Title: Re: My phaser unicorn has appeared
Post by: thesmokingman on December 17, 2019, 09:56:02 PM
that's an awesome deal! in the same vein of awesome deals, I notice harman is blowing out dod 250 reissues for $44 bucks and free 2 day air ...
Title: Re: My phaser unicorn has appeared
Post by: benny_profane on December 18, 2019, 06:27:17 PM
Has anyone seen the inside of these units? I'm wondering how easy it'd be to route the internal switch that changes the parallel behavior to the outside so that you can run only one phase 90 (instead of both in parallel while using a mono out).
Title: Re: My phaser unicorn has appeared
Post by: jimilee on December 18, 2019, 07:16:31 PM
They're push button micro switches, so I'd say it isn't for the faint of heart.


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Title: Re: My phaser unicorn has appeared
Post by: benny_profane on December 18, 2019, 08:05:32 PM
Quote from: jimilee on December 18, 2019, 07:16:31 PM
They're push button micro switches, so I'd say it isn't for the faint of heart.

Sorry for the confusion, check the attached image for what I meant (from the manual).
Title: Re: My phaser unicorn has appeared
Post by: Aentons on December 18, 2019, 09:12:11 PM
Now I have to know what SW5 does
Title: Re: My phaser unicorn has appeared
Post by: jimilee on December 18, 2019, 09:50:23 PM
Quote from: Aentons on December 18, 2019, 09:12:11 PM
Now I have to know what SW5 does
No! Don't even look at it. It will always stay down...


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Title: Re: My phaser unicorn has appeared
Post by: benny_profane on December 18, 2019, 10:19:03 PM
Quote from: jimilee on December 18, 2019, 09:50:23 PM
Quote from: Aentons on December 18, 2019, 09:12:11 PM
Now I have to know what SW5 does
No! Don't even look at it. It will always stay down...

WE MUST KNOW WHAT SW5 DOES
Title: Re: My phaser unicorn has appeared
Post by: somnif on December 18, 2019, 11:36:03 PM
I would say it's obvious.

Switch 6 swaps the phase of the effect.

Switch 5 swaps the phase of everything else.
Title: Re: My phaser unicorn has appeared
Post by: benny_profane on December 18, 2019, 11:42:17 PM
Quote from: somnif on December 18, 2019, 11:36:03 PM
I would say it's obvious.

Switch 6 swaps the phase of the effect.

Switch 5 swaps the phase of everything else.

Everything else...in the world?
Title: Re: My phaser unicorn has appeared
Post by: jimilee on December 19, 2019, 01:18:49 AM
Quote from: somnif on December 18, 2019, 11:36:03 PM
I would say it's obvious.

Switch 6 swaps the phase of the effect.

Switch 5 swaps the phase of everything else.
Ah ha! In Soviet Union, phaser pedal phases you!


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Title: Re: My phaser unicorn has appeared
Post by: madbean on December 19, 2019, 01:29:27 AM
Don't know exactly how this would work but it would be awesome to do a dual phaser like this with a third LFO that lets you pan the phasers across the two outputs. That would be some serious swirl.
Title: My phaser unicorn has appeared
Post by: jimilee on December 19, 2019, 01:43:41 AM
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/A7ZbDgux9RD0s/giphy.gif)


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Title: Re: My phaser unicorn has appeared
Post by: lars on December 19, 2019, 01:50:06 AM
Quote from: thesmokingman on December 17, 2019, 09:56:02 PM
I notice harman is blowing out dod 250 reissues for $44 bucks and free 2 day air ...
Thanks for the heads up! That is a smokin' deal for one of the all-time great overdrives.
https://www.harmanaudio.com/guitar-bass-effects/DOD250-13.html (https://www.harmanaudio.com/guitar-bass-effects/DOD250-13.html)
Title: Re: My phaser unicorn has appeared
Post by: benny_profane on December 19, 2019, 02:15:40 AM
Quote from: madbean on December 19, 2019, 01:29:27 AM
Don't know exactly how this would work but it would be awesome to do a dual phaser like this with a third LFO that lets you pan the phasers across the two outputs. That would be some serious swirl.

Yo dawg, I heard you like phasers: so we put a phaser on two OTHER phasers so your phasers can phaser while you phaser!


The word 'phaser' no longer looks correct to me.
Title: Re: My phaser unicorn has appeared
Post by: Aentons on December 19, 2019, 05:16:49 AM
Quote from: benny_profane on December 19, 2019, 02:15:40 AM
Quote from: madbean on December 19, 2019, 01:29:27 AM
Don't know exactly how this would work but it would be awesome to do a dual phaser like this with a third LFO that lets you pan the phasers across the two outputs. That would be some serious swirl.

Yo dawg, I heard you like phasers: so we put a phaser on two OTHER phasers so your phasers can phaser while you phaser!


The word 'phaser' no longer looks correct to me.

You'll have to start using 'phasor'
Title: Re: My phaser unicorn has appeared
Post by: benny_profane on December 19, 2019, 02:17:01 PM
Quote from: Aentons on December 19, 2019, 05:16:49 AM
Quote from: benny_profane on December 19, 2019, 02:15:40 AM
Quote from: madbean on December 19, 2019, 01:29:27 AM
Don't know exactly how this would work but it would be awesome to do a dual phaser like this with a third LFO that lets you pan the phasers across the two outputs. That would be some serious swirl.

Yo dawg, I heard you like phasers: so we put a phaser on two OTHER phasers so your phasers can phaser while you phaser!


The word 'phaser' no longer looks correct to me.

You'll have to start using 'phasor'

Speaking of, Harman has the Phasor 201 (two stage JFET à la Phase 45) for sale and just added the DOD 440 reissue envelope filter. The 440 reissue isn't optical though, it's OTA-based—so it shares more in common with the FX-25 than the 440.
Title: Re: My phaser unicorn has appeared
Post by: matmosphere on December 19, 2019, 04:09:00 PM
Quote from: madbean on December 19, 2019, 01:29:27 AM
Don't know exactly how this would work but it would be awesome to do a dual phaser like this with a third LFO that lets you pan the phasers across the two outputs. That would be some serious swirl.

Excellent idea.

I believe that would have to be called a Photon Torpedo
Title: Re: My phaser unicorn has appeared
Post by: benny_profane on December 19, 2019, 04:27:42 PM
Other possible names:

Xzibit Presents: Phaser
-or-
The Xzibition Phaser

(2xPhaser)2

Phase Singularity
Title: Re: My phaser unicorn has appeared
Post by: jimilee on December 19, 2019, 04:38:25 PM
Phasosophy


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Title: Re: My phaser unicorn has appeared
Post by: madbean on December 19, 2019, 04:40:59 PM
Quote from: Matmosphere on December 19, 2019, 04:09:00 PM
Quote from: madbean on December 19, 2019, 01:29:27 AM
Don't know exactly how this would work but it would be awesome to do a dual phaser like this with a third LFO that lets you pan the phasers across the two outputs. That would be some serious swirl.

Excellent idea.

I believe that would have to be called a Photon Torpedo

Actually, I like that a lot!
After some more thought, I know how to do the panning part optically with dual vactrols but I'm not sure if there is an easier way. Anyway I don't want to derail this thread. Just piqued my interest.
Title: Re: My phaser unicorn has appeared
Post by: benny_profane on December 19, 2019, 04:51:10 PM
Quote from: madbean on December 19, 2019, 04:40:59 PM
Quote from: Matmosphere on December 19, 2019, 04:09:00 PM
Quote from: madbean on December 19, 2019, 01:29:27 AM
Don't know exactly how this would work but it would be awesome to do a dual phaser like this with a third LFO that lets you pan the phasers across the two outputs. That would be some serious swirl.

Excellent idea.

I believe that would have to be called a Photon Torpedo

Actually, I like that a lot!
After some more thought, I know how to do the panning part optically with dual vactrols but I'm not sure if there is an easier way. Anyway I don't want to derail this thread. Just piqued my interest.

I’m totally interested in that solution. Could it be made into a stereo input 1590a? That’d be great!

EDIT: Could an LFO-driven mixer be used? I picked this up because if Jimi’s down with a phaser, you gotta respect. An add-on utility box following this would be pretty rad.

But yeah, seriously we’ve gotta get back to the question of SW5.
Title: Re: My phaser unicorn has appeared
Post by: jimilee on December 19, 2019, 07:37:13 PM
Quote from: madbean on December 19, 2019, 04:40:59 PM
Quote from: Matmosphere on December 19, 2019, 04:09:00 PM
Quote from: madbean on December 19, 2019, 01:29:27 AM
Don't know exactly how this would work but it would be awesome to do a dual phaser like this with a third LFO that lets you pan the phasers across the two outputs. That would be some serious swirl.

Excellent idea.

I believe that would have to be called a Photon Torpedo

Actually, I like that a lot!
After some more thought, I know how to do the panning part optically with dual vactrols but I'm not sure if there is an easier way. Anyway I don't want to derail this thread. Just piqued my interest.
Oh, we're way past that at this point, but I like where it's going.


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Title: Re: My phaser unicorn has appeared
Post by: madbean on December 19, 2019, 09:43:19 PM
Quote from: benny_profane on December 19, 2019, 04:51:10 PM

EDIT: Could an LFO-driven mixer be used? I picked this up because if Jimi's down with a phaser, you gotta respect. An add-on utility box following this would be pretty rad.

Yeah, that's what I would do. There's a little trick you can do with an LFO to create a mixing pan with vactrols. But, no easy way to control the amount of crossfade. That's where I'd have to put some thought into it. You want to be able to go from slow to hard pans. I'll see what I can come up with.
Title: Re: My phaser unicorn has appeared
Post by: benny_profane on December 19, 2019, 10:35:33 PM
Quote from: madbean on December 19, 2019, 09:43:19 PM
Quote from: benny_profane on December 19, 2019, 04:51:10 PM

EDIT: Could an LFO-driven mixer be used? I picked this up because if Jimi's down with a phaser, you gotta respect. An add-on utility box following this would be pretty rad.

Yeah, that's what I would do. There's a little trick you can do with an LFO to create a mixing pan with vactrols. But, no easy way to control the amount of crossfade. That's where I'd have to put some thought into it. You want to be able to go from slow to hard pans. I'll see what I can come up with.

If you wouldn't mind, that'd be great! It'd have use beyond this particular use case too. Cheers!
Title: Re: My phaser unicorn has appeared
Post by: skyled on December 20, 2019, 10:24:49 PM
Quote from: madbean on December 19, 2019, 09:43:19 PM
Quote from: benny_profane on December 19, 2019, 04:51:10 PM

EDIT: Could an LFO-driven mixer be used? I picked this up because if Jimi's down with a phaser, you gotta respect. An add-on utility box following this would be pretty rad.

Yeah, that's what I would do. There's a little trick you can do with an LFO to create a mixing pan with vactrols. But, no easy way to control the amount of crossfade. That's where I'd have to put some thought into it. You want to be able to go from slow to hard pans. I'll see what I can come up with.

Maybe the commonsound/4ms Stereo Panneur?
http://www.commonsound.com/kits/doku.php?id=commonsound:panneur (http://www.commonsound.com/kits/doku.php?id=commonsound:panneur)

Also look at the commonsound Phaseur Moire, which has a main 6 stage phaser, an additional 2(?) stage phaser, and an additional LFO to modulate the the main phaser speed. Plenty of wackiness to be found. I wish somebody would make a complete vero layout of it  ;D
http://www.commonsound.com/kits/doku.php?id=commonsound:phaseur (http://www.commonsound.com/kits/doku.php?id=commonsound:phaseur)