Just finished this beast and it freaking works. I just knew it wasn't going to, you have to build it completely without rocking it before boxing it. Peter's video was super helpful, now I just gotta figure out how the damn thing works. I bought the "Kit" which is basically just the hardware.
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Nice one! Welcome to the club. Check out this post (https://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=29603.msg287229#msg287229) for a consolidated list of the features and look into Peter's suggested modifications.
Epic! I have a kit as well.... when winter comes I might get onto it... I should...
Insane.
Really impressive, bud.
Looks like you might have some solder bridges on the SMD ICs, though. Hitting those spots with solder wick ought to fix it up.
Quote from: jubal81 on February 29, 2020, 08:57:02 PM
Really impressive, bud.
Looks like you might have some solder bridges on the SMD ICs, though. Hitting those spots with solder wick ought to fix it up.
Intentional. Don't worry. I worried about my own build when I saw the same bridges.
Very big build mr.Jimi
Curious,
Why the use of the SMD parts? There is clearly enough room for through hole. Was it because those parts are only available in SMD?
Excellent build Jimi. I also stopped on the SMD solder bridges however, I then supposed they were needed.
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on February 29, 2020, 11:23:41 PM
Curious,
Why the use of the SMD parts? There is clearly enough room for through hole. Was it because those parts are only available in SMD?
Excellent build Jimi. I also stopped on the SMD solder bridges however, I then supposed they were needed.
I don't even know, but I wondered myself. A lot of the parts are bunched up though, so I don't mind. I wondered about the solder bridges also.
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Quote from: benny_profane on February 29, 2020, 08:05:09 PM
Nice one! Welcome to the club. Check out this post (https://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=29603.msg287229#msg287229) for a consolidated list of the features and look into Peter's suggested modifications.
Yep, it's a lot to take in. The send to 1 or send to 2 is still a little complicated to take in. A video is most helpful.
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Thought the same about the bridges but I figured you couldn't have bridged 1&2 on 3 chips so it must be intentional. That's some work my man. Looks like it'll be as hard to play as it was to build!!
Holy smokes!
Nice work, dude, I hope you have plenty of patch cables!
Quote from: dawson on March 01, 2020, 02:24:03 AM
Holy smokes!
Nice work, dude, I hope you have plenty of patch cables!
I played in bands for a goos portion of my 39 years. I have patch cables,
maybe too many.
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Quote from: jimilee on March 01, 2020, 03:12:40 AM
I played in bands for a goos portion of my 39 years. I have patch cables,
maybe too many.
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^Nice! Judging from the demo I watched, it takes around 45-50lbs to get started with the Klein Bottle.
Have any of your bands past/present got any tunes I can check out?
... :o That's insane. Great job on all that work. This has the most anything I've seen in a single pedal.
Quote from: dawson on March 01, 2020, 03:38:10 AM
Quote from: jimilee on March 01, 2020, 03:12:40 AM
I played in bands for a goos portion of my 39 years. I have patch cables,
maybe too many.
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^Nice! Judging from the demo I watched, it takes around 45-50lbs to get started with the Klein Bottle.
Have any of your bands past/present got any tunes I can check out?
I might, I'll have a look to see if I can find anything.
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Quote from: jimilee on March 01, 2020, 02:15:28 PM
I might, I'll have a look to see if I can find anything.
^Awesome, thanks- I like the sounds of the circuits you build, so I'll probably also dig your jigs.
Quote from: MTK on March 01, 2020, 10:12:32 AM
... :o That's insane. Great job on all that work. This has the most anything I've seen in a single pedal.
^I've been thinking about the Klein Bottle since jimilee posted this build yesterday, trying to describe its function in one simple sentence, and the best I can do is, "The Klein Bottle is a guitar pedal that is used as a back-bone to build a BIGGER pedal out of OTHER pedals." -But without the other pedals, it can't do anything at all, truly a unique enigma- I'm jealous of anyone who's built one.
Thanks for sharing, jimilee!
Quote from: dawson on March 01, 2020, 06:39:32 PM
Quote from: jimilee on March 01, 2020, 02:15:28 PM
I might, I'll have a look to see if I can find anything.
^Awesome, thanks- I like the sounds of the circuits you build, so I'll probably also dig your jigs.
Quote from: MTK on March 01, 2020, 10:12:32 AM
... :o That's insane. Great job on all that work. This has the most anything I've seen in a single pedal.
^I've been thinking about the Klein Bottle since jimilee posted this build yesterday, trying to describe its function in one simple sentence, and the best I can do is, "The Klein Bottle is a guitar pedal that is used as a back-bone to build a BIGGER pedal out of OTHER pedals." -But without the other pedals, it can't do anything at all, truly a unique enigma- I'm jealous of anyone who's built one.
Thanks for sharing, jimilee!
I checked out the videos, it can add eq to a pedal, it can add. Dry mix to one that otherwise wouldn't have it and tails is a feature that everyone seems to like and running effects parallel, as opposed to serial, is a nice feature. Outside of that, you wouldn't operate it without another pedal connected.
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I've described the Klein Bottle before this way:
"It's like a Swiss army knife pedal. You can run three pedals in parallel or series (even in a circle), filter and mix the pedals however you like (including a dry blend), turn any pedal into a momentary stomp, and probably a bunch of other stuff."
So impressive. I chickened out and paid the extra money for the pedal. It's still in the freaking box lol.
Quote from: BrianS on March 01, 2020, 07:54:25 PM
So impressive. I chickened out and paid the extra money for the pedal. It's still in the freaking box lol.
Who was selling them? I took it slow when I was building mine. Fortunately, I fixed mu mistakes as I went. It's any easy build overall; there aren't that many parts.
Awesome job!
For instructions and insight into what everything does, don't forget about the interactive clickable "How it works" diagram on the website. There are some extra details that are not found anywhere else when you click on different parts of the diagram. You can click on almost every part of the pedal And the diagram to see the pop up info
https://vfepedals.com/klein-bottle.html
I had wondered about why the use of smd parts as well. The only conclusion I could come to is that it has a bunch of layers and it must have been easier to do it that way, but IDK.
Quote from: jimilee on March 01, 2020, 08:33:41 PM
Quote from: BrianS on March 01, 2020, 07:54:25 PM
So impressive. I chickened out and paid the extra money for the pedal. It's still in the freaking box lol.
Who was selling them? I took it slow when I was building mine. Fortunately, I fixed mu mistakes as I went. It's any easy build overall; there aren't that many parts.
When I bought mine Peter was selling both the kits and a completed pedal. I think the completed one was $100 more than the full kit. My build success rate then just didn't justify a $200 plus dollar failure.
Quote from: Aentons on March 02, 2020, 12:54:16 AM
Awesome job!
For instructions and insight into what everything does, don't forget about the interactive clickable "How it works" diagram on the website. There are some extra details that are not found anywhere else when you click on different parts of the diagram. You can click on almost every part of the pedal And the diagram to see the pop up info
https://vfepedals.com/klein-bottle.html
I had wondered about why the use of smd parts as well. The only conclusion I could come to is that it has a bunch of layers and it must have been easier to do it that way, but IDK.
Ok, so from what I was able to find, the op amps were hi audio quality low noise distortion and they only come in SMD. Here is the data sheet.
http://www.ti.com/product/OPA1602
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Quote from: jimilee on March 02, 2020, 01:12:19 AM
Ok, so from what I was able to find, the op amps were hi audio quality low noise distortion and they only come in SMD. Here is the data sheet.
http://www.ti.com/product/OPA1602
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Cool, thanks. That makes a lot more sense
Quote from: Aentons on March 02, 2020, 01:22:24 AM
Quote from: jimilee on March 02, 2020, 01:12:19 AM
Ok, so from what I was able to find, the op amps were hi audio quality low noise distortion and they only come in SMD. Here is the data sheet.
http://www.ti.com/product/OPA1602
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Cool, thanks. That makes a lot more sense
Several were asking about it, and then I began to wonder myself.
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Insane build, Jimi. Looks great.