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Title: Pork Barrel
Post by: Vtguy22 on April 13, 2020, 07:42:29 PM
Hello,

  I'm trying to figure out the Pork Barrel and not having much luck.  I've reflowed everything.  I get a strong clean signal with the effect on or off.  Attached are my pics, and here are the voltages I'm getting

4558
4.65
4.65
4.65
0
4.65
4.65
4.65
9.45

MN3101
7
3.13
0
3.8
Varies
6.18
Varies
1.50

MN30007
7.1
3.89
3.14
1.45
0
3.14
1.42
1.42

TL062
Varies
4.67
Varies
0
4.07
4.8
Varies
9.45

Thanks in advance,
Paul.
Title: Re: Pork Barrel
Post by: madbean on April 21, 2020, 01:22:47 AM
You supply voltages on both the MN3101 and MN3007 are looking quite low. I see you do have a 33R resistor there to create the VD supply. How about that D4 zener? Are you sure it is a 9.1v? You can actually clip it out with no adverse effect on the circuit.

Also, you can try pulling out both the MN3101 and MN3007 and then measure the supply voltages in their sockets (pins1). That would tell you if either chip if sinking current. Does either chip get hot under power? 
Title: Re: Pork Barrel
Post by: Vtguy22 on April 24, 2020, 11:53:48 AM
Thanks!  It'll be a week or so before I can try those ideas.  Just had my oil tank replaced, so half my basement is in my work area...  They tore up my floor paint dragging the tanks around, so need to wait for the touchups to dry before unburying my bench.
Title: Re: Pork Barrel
Post by: Scruffie on April 24, 2020, 09:31:27 PM
Where'd you get your chips? Your 3101 voltages even at the low supply look suspicious.
Title: Re: Pork Barrel
Post by: Vtguy22 on April 27, 2020, 06:51:12 PM
Okay, dug out my bench.  I removed D4, and the voltages didn't change.   Pin 1 on the sockets is 9.4 for each chip. 

Not sure where I got the 3101 from, I thought Smallbear, but very likely I'm mis- remembering that...
Title: Re: Pork Barrel
Post by: Scruffie on April 27, 2020, 06:59:55 PM
So you say it's 9.4V on the socket, have you seen if it's one chip or the other that's pulling things down when in place?
Title: Re: Pork Barrel
Post by: Vtguy22 on April 27, 2020, 07:14:31 PM
I'm not sure how I would tell.  They are both around 7V with the chips in place.
Title: Re: Pork Barrel
Post by: Scruffie on April 27, 2020, 10:55:29 PM
Put the MN3007 in but leave the MN3101 out, measure pin 1, take the MN3007 out and put the MN3101 in, measure pin 1.

Is it 7V in both cases?
Title: Re: Pork Barrel
Post by: Vtguy22 on April 30, 2020, 02:00:08 PM
Thanks.

With 3007 removed, both are 7.4v
With 3101 removed, both are 9.4v

Is that sounding like a problem with the 3101?
Title: Re: Pork Barrel
Post by: Scruffie on April 30, 2020, 05:16:22 PM
Yup!
Title: Re: Pork Barrel
Post by: Vtguy22 on April 30, 2020, 05:18:11 PM
Thanks, I'll order a couple when Small Bear opens back up.