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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: SirEgno on May 28, 2020, 04:43:28 PM

Title: What I was thinking? - I was right! (Phantom power)
Post by: SirEgno on May 28, 2020, 04:43:28 PM
some years ago I started to build a mic preamp with phantom power supply.
I bought a 2x15v transformer as main power and for the phantom a... 2x12v transformer.
What strange drugs did I take to get this idea? How can I get 48v from 2x12v transformer?
(https://media.giphy.com/media/CiYImHHBivpAs/giphy.gif)
I bought also every component to build this project and there is no charge pump or something similar.
Only a 48v zener diode.
Title: Re: What I was thinking?
Post by: davent on May 28, 2020, 05:30:02 PM
Voltage doubler?

(https://www.learningaboutelectronics.com/images/Voltage-doubler-circuit.png)
dave
Title: Re: What I was thinking?
Post by: SirEgno on May 28, 2020, 06:43:40 PM
you're right!
my knowledge is regressing  :-\
Are there some advantages using a full bridge rectifier?
like this:
(http://www.theorycircuit.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/12V-to-24V-Voltage-Doubler-circuit.png)

Doubling the voltage the current is halved, right? the transformer is 0,5VA (2x0,25). so the current should be about 20mA?
Title: Re: What I was thinking?
Post by: davent on May 28, 2020, 08:04:19 PM
If i recall, peak voltage with a doubler is 2.8 times the secondary so i've gone with the ampere rating divided by the 2.8 factor. I've used the simple version in a number of tube amps for the high voltage rail, they've run with without issue for years. No idea whether the bridge may offer in improvements.
dave
Title: Re: What I was thinking? - I was right! (Phantom power)
Post by: SirEgno on May 29, 2020, 06:36:03 AM
So, 24*2.8=67.2. That's why I also bought a 48v zener diode.

The schematic attached should be fine. But I think I have to add a resistor on the red circle. right?

Thank you very much for helping me!
Title: Re: What I was thinking? - I was right! (Phantom power)
Post by: davent on May 29, 2020, 04:15:20 PM
Your welcome.

The resistor, i don't know but, there is this project for a phantom  48v supply from Rod Elliot that uses a voltage doubler, he has a small value resistor in each power line.

(https://sound-au.com/p96-f1.gif)

https://sound-au.com/project96.htm
dave