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Title: Mini Mu Florist and Red Shift
Post by: jimilee on August 02, 2020, 10:17:23 PM
Been working on these for a while now. Enviro is just plain hard to photograph.
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Title: Re: Mini Mu Florist and Red Shift
Post by: matmosphere on August 02, 2020, 11:07:55 PM
Nice!! I have mixed feelings about envirotex. It looks so good, but it's such a pain to use.
Title: Re: Mini Mu Florist and Red Shift
Post by: alanp on August 02, 2020, 11:08:21 PM
What is the Red Shift? I'm guessing early 70s design?
Title: Re: Mini Mu Florist and Red Shift
Post by: jimilee on August 02, 2020, 11:51:56 PM
Quote from: alanp on August 02, 2020, 11:08:21 PM
What is the Red Shift? I'm guessing early 70s design?
A Whetstone. Modified I believe, it doesn't have the rotary switch.


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Title: Re: Mini Mu Florist and Red Shift
Post by: cooder on August 03, 2020, 12:25:16 AM
Excellent and another phaser in the bag! How does Jimi like the Whetstone?
Florist graphics are sweet!
Title: Re: Mini Mu Florist and Red Shift
Post by: jjjimi84 on August 03, 2020, 02:00:28 AM
Very nice work, the florist and red shift are really catching my eye.....

How is the red shift? It seems right up my alley but I am back logged with projects already.

Envirotex sucks to work with, it is messy and is non photogenic at all. I also noticed that if i do a really complex painting with multiple shades it doesn't show it but the level of protection is the best.
Title: Mini Mu Florist and Red Shift
Post by: jimilee on August 03, 2020, 01:39:09 PM
Quote from: cooder on August 03, 2020, 12:25:16 AM
Excellent and another phaser in the bag! How does Jimi like the Whetstone?
Florist graphics are sweet!
The whetstone is alright. I can get the jangly sound you normally only get with a Joey phaser. Overall, its a bit underwhelming for the amount of knobs a switches it's has.


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Title: Re: Mini Mu Florist and Red Shift
Post by: madbean on August 03, 2020, 02:07:07 PM
Quote from: jimilee on August 03, 2020, 01:39:09 PM
The whetstone is alright. I can get the jangly sound you normally only get with a Joey phaser. Overall, its a bit underwhelming for the amount of knobs a switches it's has.

Jimi's whistle was not whetted with the Red Shift?
Title: Re: Mini Mu Florist and Red Shift
Post by: jimilee on August 03, 2020, 02:09:18 PM
Quote from: madbean on August 03, 2020, 02:07:07 PM
Quote from: jimilee on August 03, 2020, 01:39:09 PM
The whetstone is alright. I can get the jangly sound you normally only get with a Joey phaser. Overall, its a bit underwhelming for the amount of knobs a switches it's has.

Jimi's whistle was not whetted with the Red Shift?
It was, I mean, it is a phaser. I feel like the selector knob will add another level to this pedal. Once I get some build docs, I will know for sure.


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Title: Re: Mini Mu Florist and Red Shift
Post by: davent on August 03, 2020, 03:38:43 PM
People are saying photographing Envirotex/resin makes for bad pictures, how is it different than photographing glossy objects clear coated with a different kind of finish?
dave
Title: Re: Mini Mu Florist and Red Shift
Post by: jimilee on August 03, 2020, 03:41:44 PM
Quote from: davent on August 03, 2020, 03:38:43 PM
People are saying photographing Envirotex/resin makes for bad pictures, how is it different than photographing glossy objects clear coated with a different kind of finish?
dave
It's not.


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Title: Re: Mini Mu Florist and Red Shift
Post by: aion on August 03, 2020, 08:33:38 PM
Quote from: jimilee on August 03, 2020, 02:09:18 PM
Quote from: madbean on August 03, 2020, 02:07:07 PM
Quote from: jimilee on August 03, 2020, 01:39:09 PM
The whetstone is alright. I can get the jangly sound you normally only get with a Joey phaser. Overall, its a bit underwhelming for the amount of knobs a switches it's has.

Jimi's whistle was not whetted with the Red Shift?
It was, I mean, it is a phaser. I feel like the selector knob will add another level to this pedal. Once I get some build docs, I will know for sure.

The fixed mode is pretty blah on this one - I think manual-phase mode has been done a lot better by others like EHX. My thought was that the rotary was just a very inconvenient way of adding an unnecessary mode, when a 3-way toggle switch could get the other 3 modes.

If you want, you could test it out by leaving off C16, which would change "Ring" mode into "Fixed". I'm gonna add that to the docs, I hadn't thought of that until just now, but it should work. In the original, all the rotary does in that position is disconnect all three of the LFO timing capacitors.
Title: Re: Mini Mu Florist and Red Shift
Post by: jimilee on August 03, 2020, 08:35:42 PM
Quote from: aion on August 03, 2020, 08:33:38 PM
Quote from: jimilee on August 03, 2020, 02:09:18 PM
Quote from: madbean on August 03, 2020, 02:07:07 PM
Quote from: jimilee on August 03, 2020, 01:39:09 PM
The whetstone is alright. I can get the jangly sound you normally only get with a Joey phaser. Overall, its a bit underwhelming for the amount of knobs a switches it's has.

Jimi's whistle was not whetted with the Red Shift?
It was, I mean, it is a phaser. I feel like the selector knob will add another level to this pedal. Once I get some build docs, I will know for sure.

The fixed mode is pretty blah on this one - I think manual-phase mode has been done a lot better by others like EHX. My thought was that the rotary was just a very inconvenient way of adding an unnecessary mode, when a 3-way toggle switch could get the other 3 modes.

If you want, you could test it out by leaving off C16, which would change "Ring" mode into "Fixed". I'm gonna add that to the docs, I hadn't thought of that until just now, but it should work. In the original, all the rotary does in that position is disconnect all three of the LFO timing capacitors.
Hey thanks man, I will try that, and see what that sounds like. Maybe make it an internal switch. It's a great pedal overall.


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Title: Re: Mini Mu Florist and Red Shift
Post by: davent on August 04, 2020, 01:20:38 AM
Quote from: jimilee on August 03, 2020, 03:41:44 PM
Quote from: davent on August 03, 2020, 03:38:43 PM
People are saying photographing Envirotex/resin makes for bad pictures, how is it different than photographing glossy objects clear coated with a different kind of finish?
dave
It's not.


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Okay first thing to do is ditch the camera flash, only reason to ever use a camera flash is in an emergency that requires a picture for reference.

Try shooting outside in a shaded spot, north side of a building will give even diffuse light.

Indoors try beside a bright window but not one with the sun shining in.
dave
Title: Re: Mini Mu Florist and Red Shift
Post by: jimilee on August 04, 2020, 01:22:06 PM
Quote from: davent on August 04, 2020, 01:20:38 AM
Quote from: jimilee on August 03, 2020, 03:41:44 PM
Quote from: davent on August 03, 2020, 03:38:43 PM
People are saying photographing Envirotex/resin makes for bad pictures, how is it different than photographing glossy objects clear coated with a different kind of finish?
dave
It's not.


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Okay first thing to do is ditch the camera flash, only reason to ever use a camera flash is in an emergency that requires a picture for reference.

Try shooting outside in a shaded spot, north side of a building will give even diffuse light.

Indoors try beside a bright window but not one with the sun shining in.
dave
Maaaan, this is getting complicated. There's a reason I'm a bass player, less strings to fool with!


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Title: Re: Mini Mu Florist and Red Shift
Post by: jimilee on August 04, 2020, 01:22:36 PM
Quote from: davent on August 04, 2020, 01:20:38 AM
Quote from: jimilee on August 03, 2020, 03:41:44 PM
Quote from: davent on August 03, 2020, 03:38:43 PM
People are saying photographing Envirotex/resin makes for bad pictures, how is it different than photographing glossy objects clear coated with a different kind of finish?
dave
It's not.


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Okay first thing to do is ditch the camera flash, only reason to ever use a camera flash is in an emergency that requires a picture for reference.

Try shooting outside in a shaded spot, north side of a building will give even diffuse light.

Indoors try beside a bright window but not one with the sun shining in.
dave
Maaaan, this is getting complicated. There's a reason I'm a bass player, less strings to fool with!


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Title: Re: Mini Mu Florist and Red Shift
Post by: benny_profane on August 04, 2020, 03:06:07 PM
The key is diffuse light or oblique light sources. So, avoid direct sunlight/light bulbs and never use a flash.
Title: Re: Mini Mu Florist and Red Shift
Post by: jimilee on August 04, 2020, 04:29:02 PM
Quote from: benny_profane on August 04, 2020, 03:06:07 PM
The key is diffuse light or oblique light sources. So, avoid direct sunlight/light bulbs and never use a flash.
Cool. I try to take them from further away and then crop it.  Seems like it only fill flashes then. Sometimes it works sometimes not as good.


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Title: Re: Mini Mu Florist and Red Shift
Post by: Betty Wont on August 05, 2020, 02:04:58 PM
How are you liking the mini mu? I haven't seen many build reports on that one and I have one in the works.
Title: Re: Mini Mu Florist and Red Shift
Post by: jimilee on August 05, 2020, 04:42:09 PM
Quote from: Torgoslayer on August 05, 2020, 02:04:58 PM
How are you liking the mini mu? I haven't seen many build reports on that one and I have one in the works.
It's really nice. Fantastic control over the band pass. I really like the reverse feature. That's something that not a lot of filters have.


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