Pro move - I should have known better, but I mixed up my Memory Man power supply (24 AC/AC I believe) and my Harbinger One (18v DC), and now, I have a problem with the Harbinger 'warbling' with squeal/hum at the rate of the speed knob. I replaced D1 but to no avail.
Any suggestions where I should be looking to diagnose this would be greatly appreciated.
I would start by checking the LM7815 voltage regulator. According to the build doc for the Harbinger 1.5, you should have the following dc voltages:
In: 17.5v (square pad on PCB)
Gnd: 0v (middle pad on PCB)
Out: 14.74v (the other pad :))
Edit: if that checks out ok, I would check voltages of all transistors.
Appreciate the tip, but the transistors all check out. The bulb seems to be working just fine and the device does make the classic univibe sound. It's just the squeal/hum that's overlaid onto it. Any recommendations as to what I might want to look for next?
Hmm. The noise could be coming from the power section. Are we dealing with the original Harbinger One or the 1.5 version?
Edit: assuming it's the Harbinger One, did you utilize the filter PCB?
Is there a voltage protection diode? Don't have the BOM in front of me right now.
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Quote from: jimilee on September 21, 2020, 02:03:33 AM
Is there a voltage protection diode? Don't have the BOM in front of me right now.
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He replaced D1 which I'm assuming is the protection diode.
D6 is the zener
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edit: The unit is the HarbingerOne_2015 model; the D6 diode is not present since I am running at 18v.
Quote from: Miles on September 21, 2020, 11:51:21 AM
edit: The unit is the HarbingerOne_2015 model; the D6 diode is not present since I am running at 18v.
Did you use the filter PCB to reduce noise for wall wart?
It's very likely just one of the electro's in the power section, the parallel protection diodes aren't as fool proof as series. You nuked it with DC (if it was AC, I'd tell you to bin it and start over) but of the wrong polarity (also those supplies are unloaded so can be higher voltage than stated) so whatever the electro next in line to the protection diode, replace it and then the next etc.
Stomptown: unless I'm mistaken - there was no filter portion for the Harbinger 2015 model.
Scruffie: I just wanted to clarify with you - it sounds like I have some work ahead of me, but I'll push through and get back to the thread. But - I wanted to state that I used the Total Recall power supply on it - which *was* AC (I think), so is it really a lost cause if that was the case??
The Total Recall supply isn't AC, don't worry.
You'd know if it was AC, it tends to make things... crispy.
Scruffie - I've swapped C32, C33, and C34 but to no avail. Is it worth going down the line and replacing the rest of the capacitors if these check out ok?
Okay... the schematic I'm looking at only goes up to C32, you're going to have to link to what version you're using.
Are you using a regulator in it?
It's in the 2015 subfolder in the zip archive:
https://www.madbeanpedals.com/projects/archives/FilterMod/HarbingerOne.zip
Ohhh, I was looking at the wrong one... So it does have a series protection diode.
Well, my advice either way is the same, try replacing the regulator.
I previously had checked the LM7815 and the values I was reading were consistent with the documentation and advice provided in this thread. I want to make sure it's still a good idea to swap it out or if there was something else I should be looking for.
Quote from: Miles on September 22, 2020, 10:44:17 PM
I previously had checked the LM7815 and the values I was reading were consistent with the documentation and advice provided in this thread. I want to make sure it's still a good idea to swap it out or if there was something else I should be looking for.
You can't break it at this point, I don't see why not.
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Part is ordered and we'll find out Thursday. Thanks.
Part was replaced, no discernible change, sadly.
Darn, at least you know the power supply is all clean now.
Next step will be to audio probe through the circuit to try and pin point what took a hit.
Quote from: Scruffie on September 21, 2020, 07:34:44 PM
It's very likely just one of the electro's in the power section, the parallel protection diodes aren't as fool proof as series. You nuked it with DC (if it was AC, I'd tell you to bin it and start over) but of the wrong polarity (also those supplies are unloaded so can be higher voltage than stated) so whatever the electro next in line to the protection diode, replace it and then the next etc.
^ It's this almost for certain, there is an electrolytic SOMEWHERE in a power rail that was blown. What you've described is textbook power rail squeal.
It could be any of C19-C22 or C30-C32, and if it was, then the squeal should be everywhere in the circuit (though it might be louder as you go through).
In fact, there is squeal everywhere in the circuit. I started by replacing C1 assuming that's where the squeal began, and then was confronted with the same squeal. I am actively looking into this. Thanks for the heads up.
One thing I noticed is that there are no electrolytic capacitors (or any for that matter) from C19-C21. Only C22. Just confirming the others mentioned apply to the 2015 model. I have them on order now.
Quote from: Miles on September 25, 2020, 09:00:20 PM
One thing I noticed is that there are no electrolytic capacitors (or any for that matter) from C19-C21. Only C22. Just confirming the others mentioned apply to the 2015 model. I have them on order now.
Post a link to the schematic you're building from. There's at least two PDFs of the harbinger.
Quote from: midwayfair on September 26, 2020, 04:19:05 AM
Quote from: Miles on September 25, 2020, 09:00:20 PM
One thing I noticed is that there are no electrolytic capacitors (or any for that matter) from C19-C21. Only C22. Just confirming the others mentioned apply to the 2015 model. I have them on order now.
Post a link to the schematic you're building from. There's at least two PDFs of the harbinger.
He did :)
Quote from: Miles on September 22, 2020, 11:45:22 AM
It's in the 2015 subfolder in the zip archive:
https://www.madbeanpedals.com/projects/archives/FilterMod/HarbingerOne.zip
Everything squeals starting from the first component. I really don't want to chuck this in the bin, but am I out of options here?
Have you tried another power supply?
Yes, I've tried a variety including a MXR ISO-Block.
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