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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: EBK on September 29, 2020, 06:14:32 PM

Title: Recommend a phaser to build? (Help me, Jimi!)
Post by: EBK on September 29, 2020, 06:14:32 PM
So, I have this friend who has built lots of guitar pedals, but he is a little embarrassed to admit that he has never built a phaser.  There are so many phaser circuits out there that I am my friend is feeling a bit overwhelmed trying to decide which one to build first.  Any suggestions that I can pass along to my friend?  ;)

Edit: Added the word "first" to soften the mental pressure of having to choose only one.    ;D
Title: Re: Recommend a phaser to build? (Help me, Jimi!)
Post by: matmosphere on September 29, 2020, 06:28:05 PM
Did you do this just to lock Jimi in some kind of infinite thought loop? How could he possibly choose just one ;)



My vote would be an early EHX Small Stone, sounds the best to my ears. I'm no connoisseur though. 
Title: Re: Recommend a phaser to build? (Help me, Jimi!)
Post by: DLW on September 29, 2020, 07:09:27 PM
Blackout Effectors Whetstone Phaser - OTA with all the bells and whistles.

Just to emphasize how much I love this circuit... I designed my own board before Aion and Brian announced theirs. Then, I bought Aion's without hesitation and will absolutely do the same with Brian's (which looks like it will release this fall).
Title: Re: Recommend a phaser to build? (Help me, Jimi!)
Post by: Betty Wont on September 29, 2020, 07:54:31 PM
My favorite phase shifter to build and use is the Mutron II. It has a wateriness to it that I don't hear anywhere else.
Title: Re: Recommend a phaser to build? (Help me, Jimi!)
Post by: cooder on September 29, 2020, 08:11:10 PM
Jimi must still be stuck in the thought loop...
I also love the Mutron II have yet to try the Whetstone.
Title: Re: Recommend a phaser to build? (Help me, Jimi!)
Post by: tcpoint on September 29, 2020, 09:11:44 PM
The mbp glasshole is great.  I love mine.  It is a mutron ii - based phasor.
Title: Re: Recommend a phaser to build? (Help me, Jimi!)
Post by: Aentons on September 29, 2020, 11:23:25 PM
I'll put my vote in for the VFE Tractor Beam. Phase 90++
Title: Recommend a phaser to build? (Help me, Jimi!)
Post by: jimilee on September 29, 2020, 11:55:17 PM
Dang guys, I stepped out for dinner, gosh. Ross phaser is the way to go. It after I built one, it never left my board. Tone pad has the etchables or the PCB. Small bear sells the PCBs also. Then, build yourself a good old jfet phaser. Then a Madbean and lextrix-FX ota phaser. Good stuff. Then work your way up to the 12 stage lectric-fx phaser. Then branch out to every phaser you can get your hands on. I've built them all I reckon. Buildyourownclone.com has got a mini one and a classic one. Built those too. I probably have as many phasers as I do guitars.

Edit- then start on strip board stuff.

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Title: Re: Recommend a phaser to build? (Help me, Jimi!)
Post by: alanp on September 30, 2020, 12:24:05 AM
Phase 90 is a staple. I'd go with that first.

If you don't want to match FETs, go with an OTA like the Maestro (I don't think Bean carries this anymore? It had the 5/6 stage switch...) or a LED/LDR like the Glasshole.
Title: Re: Recommend a phaser to build? (Help me, Jimi!)
Post by: Thewintersoldier on September 30, 2020, 01:12:58 AM
I prefer OTA based phasers best. Followed by optical (mutron) which can be a little vibey at times and then jfet last. I find that the small stone has a great range of speed and is very smooth and clear sounding. No matching of jfets or messing with led/ldr combos. I would probably build a bad stone as it gives a very smooth phase, adds the feedback knob, gives a vibrato option and fixed sound.

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Title: Re: Recommend a phaser to build? (Help me, Jimi!)
Post by: gordo on September 30, 2020, 03:10:43 AM
Glasshole kills and is by far my fave. The ADA from Lectric is right there with it.

Gotta agree with the others though, a Ross/MXR or a Small Stone is hard to beat and a good intro to where phasers went mainstream in the 70's.
Title: Re: Recommend a phaser to build? (Help me, Jimi!)
Post by: midwayfair on September 30, 2020, 05:49:20 PM
I haven't built a ton of them, but the only one I ever reach for is my Stage Fright build.
Title: Re: Recommend a phaser to build? (Help me, Jimi!)
Post by: jimilee on September 30, 2020, 06:18:41 PM
Quote from: midwayfair on September 30, 2020, 05:49:20 PM
I haven't built a ton of them, but the only one I ever reach for is my Stage Fright build.
Ohhhhh, he meant to use, not just build......yeah, I can agree with this.


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Title: Re: Recommend a phaser to build? (Help me, Jimi!)
Post by: Timko on September 30, 2020, 09:54:35 PM
While I'm personally a fan of the Mutron sound (I've build a few Mutron II variations, and am currently using a Bi Phase on my board), I agree that they get a little vibey.  But if that's the sound you're going for, an you're cool with matching parts, it's sound is like liquid.
Title: Re: Recommend a phaser to build? (Help me, Jimi!)
Post by: LaceSensor on October 01, 2020, 10:20:21 PM
lovetone doppelganger, its really neat
Title: Re: Recommend a phaser to build? (Help me, Jimi!)
Post by: Scruffie on October 01, 2020, 10:59:25 PM
I think by law you have to pick a phase 90 or small stone for your first phaser.
Title: Re: Recommend a phaser to build? (Help me, Jimi!)
Post by: madbean on October 02, 2020, 01:31:59 AM
Quote from: jimilee on September 30, 2020, 06:18:41 PM
Quote from: midwayfair on September 30, 2020, 05:49:20 PM
I haven't built a ton of them, but the only one I ever reach for is my Stage Fright build.
Ohhhhh, he meant to use, not just build......yeah, I can agree with this.


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Dang, maybe this one should have stayed on the roster.
Title: Re: Recommend a phaser to build? (Help me, Jimi!)
Post by: midwayfair on October 02, 2020, 02:46:50 AM
Quote from: madbean on October 02, 2020, 01:31:59 AM
Quote from: jimilee on September 30, 2020, 06:18:41 PM
Quote from: midwayfair on September 30, 2020, 05:49:20 PM
I haven't built a ton of them, but the only one I ever reach for is my Stage Fright build.
Ohhhhh, he meant to use, not just build......yeah, I can agree with this.


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Dang, maybe this one should have stayed on the roster.

Do a reissue with the sweep knob I added. :)
Title: Re: Recommend a phaser to build? (Help me, Jimi!)
Post by: thesmokingman on October 02, 2020, 03:29:50 AM
Quote from: Scruffie on October 01, 2020, 10:59:25 PM
I think by law you have to pick a phase 90 or small stone for your first phaser.
My first phase was an early v1 small stone with the metal can OTAs ... bought it for $20 off my high school shop teacher in the 90s
my current phase is a phase 90 I repaired as I bought it broken off CL for $10 so this assertion tracks