Taylor did a cool PCB of the meatball, and there are a few other projects out there such as
- String Ringer (RingStinger)
- Big Cheese (GGG is one example, maybe more)
- Brown Source
But there isnt anything for the Wobulator, Doppelganger or Flanger.
I know Dirk Hendrik has RE the Wobulator but he wont share the findings, which is his prerogative.
I cant help with the Flanger, and it seems noone else can either, but one that could be done is the Doppelganger.
I for one would love one of these in a 1590BB or even a 1790ns would be fine.
I have the last released version, lots of high res images, and detailed all the parts / values that I could decipher.
would anyone here, or Brian himself, be interested in working up a dual side PCB layout for a project, or failing that, a direct copy of what is available now?
I dont have the pedal in my hands right now, but I can link to the photos and such, and can pick up the pedal from storage tommorow.
Let me know your thoughts.
I just cant get my head around Eagle and never find time to properly learn it, like lots of software :(
I can just about to vero's in DIY LC, but this is gonna be a massive vero haha.
Cheers
LS
I would love to see more lovetone clones about because they seem like great pedals but are so hard to get hold of :(
I did a vero layout for the Big Cheese which is verified if you are interested?
Its a really nice Fuzz pedal.
Verified and fits in a 1590BB
(http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x374/LaceSensor1/Big%20Cheese%20Vero/26x18FSBfinalBigCheese.png)
I have the Ring Stinger about half-way drawn in Eagle. That was a few months ago. I don't think anyone has successfully traced the Doppleganger and for sure not the ? flanger.
So, I'd say the Ring Stringer is the best bet and I would be totally down for that. I want at least one ring mod project, so why not the most complicated one, too?
I have one of Taylor's Meat Sphere PCBs almost finished. It's a great project!
Quote from: madbean on December 17, 2011, 01:59:26 PM
I have the Ring Stinger about half-way drawn in Eagle. That was a few months ago. I don't think anyone has successfully traced the Doppleganger and for sure not the ? flanger.
So, I'd say the Ring Stringer is the best bet and I would be totally down for that. I want at least one ring mod project, so why not the most complicated one, too?
I have one of Taylor's Meat Sphere PCBs almost finished. It's a great project!
Hi
A Ringstinger in a smaller package would be awesome. I would build another, it would let me then sell my big version.
It is a fantastic pedal, loads of awesome sounds.
MY only issue is you can hear the faintest sound of the Octave Fuzz in bypass. When in bypass with Ring Mod preselected, it is silent. If anything i wouldve perhaps guessed the opposite was true.
Either way its a minor niggle.
If you want to do any work on a Doppelganger as above I have one available.
Im tempted to just try and made a pure copy of it, but they are massive in footprint.
I found a schem for the Wobulator a few minutes ago as I was cleaning out a desk. So, I stand corrected!
Would you be willing to share it please?
Wait, so are you saying that the GGG tuned muff is a Big Cheese clone?
Quote from: LaceSensor on December 17, 2011, 07:38:21 PM
Would you be willing to share it please?
Actually, it's available here: http://www.aronnelson.com/DIYFiles/up/Wobulator_v3.pdf
Lots of good info on the Doppleganger: http://www.freestompboxes.org/search.php?keywords=doppleganger&terms=all&author=&sv=0&sc=1&sf=all&sk=t&sd=d&sr=posts&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search
I haven't read through the thread...it looks like a lot got done on it.
A chunk of the Pics etc on DIY are mine http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=54681.120
Thanks for the wob link
Aha. Good link on DIYSB..thanks!
With clear, large pics of the top and bottom of a single sided board, tracing it out really isn't too bad. But, it definitely takes time.
Is there any utility in a high resolution scan then sizing and or formatting in a graphics software?
LaceSensor, i'm working on pcb layouts for the brown source and big cheese .. if you can etch, i could send you the layout when/if it gets done. the big cheese is already done but i think i'll get rid of the PCB mounted pots and make a smaller layout around the rotary switch.
everything is unverified of course, and not as well laid out as bean's work :) but i'm getting better every day!
Quote from: add4 on January 12, 2012, 08:42:02 AM
LaceSensor, i'm working on pcb layouts for the brown source and big cheese .. if you can etch, i could send you the layout when/if it gets done. the big cheese is already done but i think i'll get rid of the PCB mounted pots and make a smaller layout around the rotary switch.
everything is unverified of course, and not as well laid out as bean's work :) but i'm getting better every day!
I'll etch it, sure.
You do know there are small layouts for the brown and big cheese already? Not to say don't bother I'm excited to have more options, just that there already exists some...
For people on here I am psyched to say ill have a doppelgänger clone working soon with luck...
I love to do them myself .. Eagle has become a kind of toy for me.
And i like the process of doing all of it from the schematic to the pedal, i find the process much more fun and complete.
i'll work on a tighter layout then then send it to you when/if it gets good.
the one i have at the moment has pcb mounted pots and switch and parts are a little too widely spaced to my taste :)
From experience, its better to have board mounted rotary than pots.
Pots are easy to wire offboard. The Rotaries can be a bitch.
Your call though, either will be greatly appreciated by the community.
i'm keeping the rotary switch, and throwing the pots off board :)
but i realized that home etched pcbs will be a problem for pcb mounted rotary switch : i'm supposed to solder the switch on the other side of the board, and i can't reach the pads to solder then ... or should i put the components facing up, toward the top of the box?
components facing up seems to be the done thing, otherwise soldering the rotary on a single side board becomes impossible.
i'm back to soldering it then :p ... when i'll receive my order with the missing caps :p
thanks for the advice
oh no i didnt.....
(http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x374/LaceSensor1/P1020830.jpg)
ps ignore the fluff and mess.
I had to fix some traces with a pen, but im busy continuitiy checking and its all good.
Plus, for some reason when cleaning up with acetone its stained the board, but its just cosmetic.
Can anyone help?
Please see here
http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=3578.0
Most useful help leading to a working project I will etch a board for them :)
It's pretty common for the board to get stained when removing the toner with Acetone. After much much practice, I found the best way is to soak the paper towel (more than you need) and wipe as quickly as possible. You may still have a little staining, but if you hit the whole board with steel wool and then clean again with Acetone most all of it goes away.
Or, just use black pcb material :)
Quote from: madbean on January 14, 2012, 02:42:22 PM
It's pretty common for the board to get stained when removing the toner with Acetone. After much much practice, I found the best way is to soak the paper towel (more than you need) and wipe as quickly as possible. You may still have a little staining, but if you hit the whole board with steel wool and then clean again with Acetone most all of it goes away.
Or, just use black pcb material :)
Cool thanks. Ima order some nice black pcb off this ABCFAB dude on ebay.
If you have any input on my dedugging thatd be awesome.
Wow Lace,
Nice project, wish I had the expertise to help you but definately am pulling for you to get this one up and
running properly. Would love ( no pun intended) to add those tones to my arsenal!
Hi
Im a bit lax on this, hopefully I will get the pics over to Scruffie tommroow (sorry Scruffie if you read this!)
When its debugged I will provide full info on the clone project.
Quote from: LaceSensor on December 17, 2011, 12:50:15 PM
I did a vero layout for the Big Cheese which is verified if you are interested?
Its a really nice Fuzz pedal.
Verified and fits in a 1590BB
(http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x374/LaceSensor1/Big%20Cheese%20Vero/26x18FSBfinalBigCheese.png)
What do I set the trim to on the build? I can't seem to find that anywhere?
Set the rotary to Cheese mode. The trim will control the splattery gating.