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Title: Soldering ICs
Post by: Guybrush on June 15, 2012, 03:50:32 PM
Hey there.

I've got a bit of free time next week and I plan to make the most of it by finally getting on with some builds.

I'm going to make a Doombutter which will be my first build with an IC (I'm still new to this).  I was just wondering if there are any do's or don't when soldering IC's?  I'm worried about ruining the chips by making a stupid mistake.

Also I'm assuming they need to be orientated a certain way.  Is there any fail safe way of doing this?

Thanks in advance!
Title: Re: Soldering ICs
Post by: irmcdermott on June 15, 2012, 03:55:29 PM
Definitely use sockets, ICs are very easy to damage. On the ICs, there is usually a dot on the top left corner... that is pin 1
Title: Re: Soldering ICs
Post by: pryde on June 15, 2012, 08:25:35 PM
As said, sockets for sure. If you don't have any, your local radio shack carries them.

Also, when installing the IC in the socket (after soldering) don't force it but the IC pins should seat down in the socket a good distance.

I tried to force an IC in once and smashed the legs flat and broke a pin  ::)

Title: Re: Soldering ICs
Post by: gtr2 on June 15, 2012, 08:40:09 PM
Sockets are the way to go.

If you do have to solder for some reason.  Solder one leg at a time, leaving plenty of time to cool down between soldering each leg.
Title: Re: Soldering ICs
Post by: Guybrush on June 18, 2012, 09:37:33 AM
Cheers guys!.  Sockets have been ordered  :)
Title: Re: Soldering ICs
Post by: whitebread47 on June 18, 2012, 12:12:33 PM
I'm still new to this hobby as well (about 10 builds deep), and most of my builds have been IC based.  Sockets have proved indispensable.  I have had some incidental IC difficulties and am very pleased that I did not have to try to desolder an IC from a board!

FWIW,  when placing the IC in the socket, pin 1 on the IC (the dot) will correlate with the square solder pad on the board (unless using vero or perf of course).  Don't know if that is helpful or not, but not knowing this has led me to error in the past.
Title: Re: Soldering ICs
Post by: GermanCdn on June 18, 2012, 02:39:57 PM
+1 (or whatever number we're at now) for sockets, with the all important second step of remembering to install the IC in the socket before testing the circuit out.  This has happened to me on a number of occasions (you'd think I'd learn).  FWIW, you should always socket ICs and transistors, the sockets are dirt cheap, and you can swap them out for tonal change experiments later.
Title: Re: Soldering ICs
Post by: jkokura on June 18, 2012, 04:53:53 PM
Soldering in ICs is easy, it's removing them that's hard. That's why I recommend sockets.

I just ordered 200 8 pin sockets last week...

Jacob
Title: Re: Soldering ICs
Post by: Vallhagen on June 18, 2012, 06:23:26 PM
...and solder opposite corners first (pin 1 and 5 on an 8pin socket..), then it sits safely in place for The rest of The pins.

...and i dont bother to socket transistors.

Cheers
Title: Re: Soldering ICs
Post by: calciferspit on June 18, 2012, 07:53:31 PM
Quote from: jkokura on June 18, 2012, 04:53:53 PM
Soldering in ICs is easy, it's removing them that's hard. That's why I recommend sockets.

I just ordered 200 8 pin sockets last week...

Jacob
This. You don't want to remove an IC. ICs should just come with a socket (nudge nudge small bear)
Title: Re: Soldering ICs
Post by: Guybrush on June 22, 2012, 11:43:21 AM
Thanks for all the advice.

My ICs arrived yesterday. Whilst most of them have a dot in one corner to identify pin 1 some of them don't,  like this one:
(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/2175/20120621231116x.jpg)

What's the best way to work out where pin 1 is?

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Soldering ICs
Post by: marmaliser on June 22, 2012, 11:55:57 AM
Pin 1 will be up at the end where the little half  circle indent is.  You could also check the datasheets
Title: Re: Soldering ICs
Post by: Guybrush on June 23, 2012, 05:30:16 AM
Thanks. I'll look for the data sheet.
Title: Re: Soldering ICs
Post by: juansolo on June 23, 2012, 06:47:47 AM
These days I only socket ICs that are expensive/rare and transistors/diodes if I plan to experiment with different ones. Builds I do for other people I try and solder as much in as poss so it's more robust.

But yeah, soldered in ICs are a proper swine if you need to get them out again.
Title: Re: Soldering ICs
Post by: calciferspit on June 23, 2012, 09:35:21 PM
Quote from: juansolo on June 23, 2012, 06:47:47 AM
These days I only socket ICs that are expensive/rare and transistors/diodes if I plan to experiment with different ones. Builds I do for other people I try and solder as much in as poss so it's more robust.

But yeah, soldered in ICs are a proper swine if you need to get them out again.
thats why, when i've committed to socketed components, i tack just one lead to the socket for security and future ease of removal. i think ic and tranny sockets look nice and bold on a board, 2pin sockets for doides resistors and caps, not so much.
Title: Re: Soldering ICs
Post by: alanp on June 24, 2012, 12:32:13 AM
After swearing at a transistor that WOULD NOT STAY in it's flamin' socket, I'm not bothering with socketing them anymore. (Diodes and timing caps, sure, they tend to either have heavy enough wire in the leads that they stay put, or you can double it back on itself.)