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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: frankie5fingers on June 26, 2012, 01:35:09 PM

Title: Power Supply Filtering
Post by: frankie5fingers on June 26, 2012, 01:35:09 PM
I was reading a couple of posts from a feller that was having some with a hum emanating from a type of power supply.  I've had that trouble now and again, even with commercially producted pedals.  Brian suggested adding a470u and 100n in parallel between the + and - as a power supply filter.  My question; would this not be a good idea for every build as a precautionary measure - to ward off evil spirits?  Would the values always be the same, or would you modify according to the circuit?
Thanks, Frank
Title: Re: Power Supply Filtering
Post by: culturejam on June 26, 2012, 01:49:28 PM
A larger power supply filter cap is part of just about every effects circuit. It's generally 100uF, but it may also be anything from 22uF up to 470uF. The smaller cap (100n) is frequently omitted, but it's certainly not a bad idea.
Title: Re: Power Supply Filtering
Post by: mgwhit on June 26, 2012, 03:16:45 PM
After I recently got schooled on the 100nF filtering cap, I've added a 100nF and a 100uF as a constant filter on my breadboard with no ill effects.  If a circuit board doesn't have a space for the 100nF, you can probably just wire it across the lugs of the power jack.
Title: Re: Power Supply Filtering
Post by: jubal81 on June 26, 2012, 10:16:08 PM
I've read the 100n needed to be as close to the opamp as possible. Haven't tried it any other way for comparison, though.
Title: Re: Power Supply Filtering
Post by: derevaun on June 26, 2012, 11:00:06 PM
Tangential piggyback question: how big is too big? I have some random high-uF caps (+1000uF) and often wonder, when I encounter them, how they would work in that role.
Title: Re: Power Supply Filtering
Post by: stecykmi on June 27, 2012, 01:36:47 AM
Quote from: derevaun on June 26, 2012, 11:00:06 PM
Tangential piggyback question: how big is too big? I have some random high-uF caps (+1000uF) and often wonder, when I encounter them, how they would work in that role.

values that large are typically used in rectifier circuits, ie changing AC into DC. you certainly can use them, however, they're just much larger than what's typically used.