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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: culturejam on August 23, 2012, 02:18:48 PM

Title: Pre-orders for the new Klon - Discuss
Post by: culturejam on August 23, 2012, 02:18:48 PM
http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t=1130801

New price is $269. No other specs available (not even what it will look like), but I'm sure it already has a long wait list.  ;D
Title: Re: Pre-orders for the new Klon - Discuss
Post by: midwayfair on August 23, 2012, 02:43:54 PM
Wundergussy's comment is the bestsest:

"Wait, I'll be able to BUY ONE? Pssh, to hell with this pedal. I'm gonna go read some threads about the Lovetone Meatball."

I'm actually going to go ahead and say that $269 is probably "about right" given the hype -- 4/3 the price of a top-notch clone and only slightly above the really, um, notorious clones. The used prices will probably be around the price of a good clone.

In other words, I don't think Rocket is completely gouging people like if it had been set at $300+, which is what a lot of people expected. I wasn't likely to buy one regardless, so it's not like I have a horse in this race.

Personally, my next klone that isn't a notaklon is going to be in a 1590A and I will accept no substitutes. That's where kloning technology is at these days, I hear. ;)
Title: Re: Pre-orders for the new Klon - Discuss
Post by: juansolo on August 23, 2012, 04:11:21 PM
Having had a go with a real Centaur. It was certainly nicely done (spooge aside) and in a big ass custom enclosure that surely cost a pretty penny. If it continues along the same lines then I think $300 is fair enough. I'd be a little put off if it comes in a boggo hammond with a MIC 3PDT. But then again, that's the laws of supply and demand. If I could flog pedals for that much, damn right I would.

I have slight issues about when he used to 'find' them and auction them on ebay when the prices were frankly idiotic. But I think now the mystique has diminished and everyone knows it's really got nothing magical in there. Indeed it's a bit of a one trick pony that goes about what it does in an overly convoluted way.

That and the complaint about all the clones during the Klon madness period when he just didn't meet that demand. I don't understand why he just didn't go into production or flog it to a larger manufacturer. Unless it was to artificially drive up prices by strangling the market a la DAM (again I'm not complaining, just commenting). But the market was there for Centaurs and he simply was not making them with no idea as to when he might again. Of course it's going to get cloned. This is where supply and demand worked against him I suppose.

To be honest, I'm bored senseless with the whole thing. I'm just numb to it all now and couldn't care less.
Title: Re: Pre-orders for the new Klon - Discuss
Post by: saxoftenest on August 23, 2012, 07:36:05 PM
Whew! Now we can FINALLY (maybe? hopefully?) drop the Klon mystique and it will become just another tool that some guitarists choose to use.

Quote from: midwayfair on August 23, 2012, 02:43:54 PM
Personally, my next klone that isn't a notaklon is going to be in a 1590A and I will accept no substitutes. That's where kloning technology is at these days, I hear. ;)

You mean like this?
(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8509/tinykloneguts.jpg)
;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pre-orders for the new Klon - Discuss
Post by: thetrend77 on August 23, 2012, 07:39:54 PM
Quote from: juansolo on August 23, 2012, 04:11:21 PMTo be honest, I'm bored senseless with the whole thing. I'm just numb to it all now and couldn't care less.

My thoughts exactly.  ;)
Title: Re: Pre-orders for the new Klon - Discuss
Post by: jkokura on August 23, 2012, 07:56:55 PM
It's a bit incredible how big the drama at TGP can get, especially over the Klon, but it's not as insane as that HC forum...

But the Centaur is, in my opinion, a pretty cool concept. I think it's fairly distinct as a design, and I personally really enjoy the versions I've built. Brian's mentioned that it uses way to many parts, and that some of the circuit features are unnecessary, but I feel that there's something that works in it for me.

So, I'm not surprised there's clamour, or drama, but it's a little bit silly at this point. The designer guy has played his cards wrong at times, and the silliness has led to an industry of DIYers turned Boutiquers, literally dozens of them including myself. If he had been smarter, he would have contacted Brian about using his layout, and never had to go into this whole mess.

Jacob
Title: Re: Pre-orders for the new Klon - Discuss
Post by: nzCdog on August 23, 2012, 08:09:06 PM
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Klon-Centaur-boutique-overdrive-boost-pedal-/280935968372?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item416916ae74 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Klon-Centaur-boutique-overdrive-boost-pedal-/280935968372?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item416916ae74)
Gonna ruin this guys retirement plan ;) :P
Title: Re: Pre-orders for the new Klon - Discuss
Post by: juansolo on August 23, 2012, 08:14:51 PM
It amazes me that there are pillocks out there that'll pay that for an effects pedal...


...If anyone knows some of these idiots, please give them my number, I've a few pedals I could do with shifting. ;)
Title: Re: Pre-orders for the new Klon - Discuss
Post by: midwayfair on August 23, 2012, 08:17:20 PM
Quote from: saxoftenest on August 23, 2012, 07:36:05 PMYou mean like this?

yes, natch, you sick person you. :)

Glad your board's going to be a group buy. twiddle twiddle.
Title: Re: Pre-orders for the new Klon - Discuss
Post by: nzCdog on August 23, 2012, 08:30:11 PM
Quote from: jkokura on August 23, 2012, 07:56:55 PM
But the Centaur is, in my opinion, a pretty cool concept. I think it's fairly distinct as a design, and I personally really enjoy the versions I've built. Brian's mentioned that it uses way to many parts, and that some of the circuit features are unnecessary, but I feel that there's something that works in it for me.

Actually I just finished my FIRST Klone (Sunking) two days ago (yes,yes I know there's been lots to get through), been twidling on it a wee bit... gotta say its got a certain charm.  Prolly find itself a place on my board methinks... build pics when I can be bovvered ;)
Title: Re: Pre-orders for the new Klon - Discuss
Post by: madbean on August 23, 2012, 09:52:40 PM
my comment
Title: Re: Pre-orders for the new Klon - Discuss
Post by: pryde on August 24, 2012, 02:19:16 AM
Guess I'm the minority but I have never played or much listened to a Klon or klone or whatever. Not really sure WTF it is or what all the fuss is about.

$1200 for it on ebay? yagoddabeshitinme  :o

Title: Re: Pre-orders for the new Klon - Discuss
Post by: jubal81 on August 24, 2012, 01:29:44 PM
You're going to need appropriate legwear to get that mythical toan.

(http://cl.ly/image/3X1j2e0I1u3B/Screen%20Shot%202012-08-24%20at%209.26.41%20AM.png)
Title: Re: Pre-orders for the new Klon - Discuss
Post by: atreidesheir on August 24, 2012, 02:02:39 PM
Ok that is funny^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Title: Re: Pre-orders for the new Klon - Discuss
Post by: jtn191 on August 24, 2012, 02:03:54 PM
Quote from: midwayfair on August 23, 2012, 08:17:20 PM
Quote from: saxoftenest on August 23, 2012, 07:36:05 PMYou mean like this?

yes, natch, you sick person you. :)

Glad your board's going to be a group buy. twiddle twiddle.

woa did I miss something? That's the first time I've seen THAT mentioned. I've been thinking about exploring a SMD version or a clean boost only klon in a 1590a
Title: Re: Pre-orders for the new Klon - Discuss
Post by: midwayfair on August 24, 2012, 02:24:22 PM
Quote from: jtn191 on August 24, 2012, 02:03:54 PM
Quote from: midwayfair on August 23, 2012, 08:17:20 PM
Quote from: saxoftenest on August 23, 2012, 07:36:05 PMYou mean like this?

yes, natch, you sick person you. :)

Glad your board's going to be a group buy. twiddle twiddle.

woa did I miss something? That's the first time I've seen THAT mentioned. I've been thinking about exploring a SMD version or a clean boost only klon in a 1590a

He just posted it a couple days ago. This exists, by the way, because everyone will need it ... I'll also post it over on the BYOC thread. Dual gang 9mm 100K linear:
http://www.smallbearelec.com/servlet/Detail?no=1276

EDIT: This is new as of yesterday, so it's not like we all missed anything previously.

Edit edit: CRAP, this was my 500th post, which I was hoping to do as a build report. And now I've used it on a Klon thread. BUGGER.
Title: Re: Pre-orders for the new Klon - Discuss
Post by: GrindCustoms on August 24, 2012, 09:06:27 PM
Quote from: midwayfair on August 24, 2012, 02:24:22 PM
EDIT: This is new as of yesterday, so it's not like we all missed anything previously.

Edit edit: CRAP, this was my 500th post, which I was hoping to do as a build report. And now I've used it on a Klon thread. BUGGER.

That's what happen when you doubt about the power of the Unicorn! Hahaha!
Title: Re: Pre-orders for the new Klon - Discuss
Post by: bigmufffuzzwizz on August 24, 2012, 10:16:10 PM
I can't believe it fetches a price like that now. I didn't even find my klon klone box worthy...
Title: Re: Pre-orders for the new Klon - Discuss
Post by: jtn191 on August 25, 2012, 02:41:55 AM
hm...I still can't find that mini klone build report  ???

The plus side: when the Klon goes back into production, our friends will stop asking us to make them one!
Title: Re: Pre-orders for the new Klon - Discuss
Post by: GrindCustoms on August 25, 2012, 05:01:29 AM
Quote from: jtn191 on August 25, 2012, 02:41:55 AM
hm...I still can't find that mini klone build report  ???

Enjoy!

http://www.buildyourownclone.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=39687&start=0&st=0&sk=t&sd=a