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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: GrindCustoms on September 28, 2012, 08:43:26 PM

Title: CJ's Game Of Tones Build DOC
Post by: GrindCustoms on September 28, 2012, 08:43:26 PM
Hi guys, here's the link to CJ's Game of Tones pcb. Alot of people over here have bought some from me so i tought i could share it here instead of replying to a ton of private messages.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28586266/BOM/GOT_Build.pdf

Some more informations and tweaks to what is already mentionned in the doc:

You can use any dual op-amp, they will all sound good, but i strongly recommend some Burr Brown, does a really nice job in this circuit, 4558 and 4580 also gave me really interesting results.

For the clipping switch, you can use a On/Off/On SPDT switch so you have LED/Lifted/Diodes options.

Note that in the Diode position you will have a significant drop of overall output but a real nice compressed Drive/Stortion sound, i recommend socketing these position so you can experiment.

Enjoy!

Rej
Title: Re: CJ's Game Of Tones Build DOC
Post by: GermanCdn on September 28, 2012, 09:03:32 PM
Just finished building a couple Rej, put a 4559 with 1N34As in the low gain setup and a 4580 with 1N914s in the high gain, nice combo.
Title: Re: CJ's Game Of Tones Build DOC
Post by: GrindCustoms on September 28, 2012, 09:19:28 PM
Quote from: GermanCdn on September 28, 2012, 09:03:32 PM
Just finished building a couple Rej, put a 4559 with 1N34As in the low gain setup and a 4580 with 1N914s in the high gain, nice combo.

Nice! 8)

Have you made it Low Gain into High Gain or the opposite?

Sure is a nice combo, you've got a KOT killer right there ;)
Title: Re: CJ's Game Of Tones Build DOC
Post by: GermanCdn on September 28, 2012, 09:28:33 PM
Low Gain into high gain, was going to put in a switch to reverse, but eight pots, four switches and two LEDs is really the limit for me in clean builds inside a BB.

Of note, I put the 500k in the high gain, it's a little much and definitely loses some definition, next time I build a high gain I'd probably put a 250k in (built a KOK like that and I love it).

If you've got any more boards, I'll take four more.  Got a couple other combo pedals I'd slap them in.
Title: Re: CJ's Game Of Tones Build DOC
Post by: mgwhit on September 28, 2012, 09:31:05 PM
Thanks, Rej!  Is there a schematic available, or can I safely assume that this is the same circuit as other popular Bluesbreaker derivatives?  ;)  I've already built an Aristocrat (to specs) and would like to breadboard this one first.
Title: Re: CJ's Game Of Tones Build DOC
Post by: GrindCustoms on September 28, 2012, 09:52:50 PM
I've got plenty of pcb left from this groupbuy, i ended getting much more than what i was suppose too ;)

Here's the Zip File containing all the info needed.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/28586266/GOT_Build.pdf
Title: Re: CJ's Game Of Tones Build DOC
Post by: sgmezei on September 28, 2012, 10:36:25 PM
Thanks for posting this! Just got my PCB's the other day and am stoked!
Title: Re: CJ's Game Of Tones Build DOC
Post by: GrindCustoms on September 28, 2012, 11:54:21 PM
Quote from: sgmezei on September 28, 2012, 10:36:25 PM
Thanks for posting this! Just got my PCB's the other day and am stoked!

Great! Glad to hear they're slowly finding their homes! :)
Title: Re: CJ's Game Of Tones Build DOC
Post by: BRGPollen on September 29, 2012, 09:18:31 PM
Grind,
      I built the Aristocrat some time ago & wasn't impressed. I have a GGG Its-8 that I like, but I'm looking for something that I LOVE! Do you think I could get a pretty good tube screamer killer out of this project?

B
Title: Re: CJ's Game Of Tones Build DOC
Post by: GrindCustoms on September 29, 2012, 09:37:04 PM
Quote from: BRGPollen on September 29, 2012, 09:18:31 PM
Grind,
      I built the Aristocrat some time ago & wasn't impressed. I have a GGG Its-8 that I like, but I'm looking for something that I LOVE! Do you think I could get a pretty good tube screamer killer out of this project?

B

Hi B, i personnaly think that this OD is alot more flexible than a TS, it's a great sounding OD by itself and works really nice in front of a gainy tube head, also works really great with other dirt pedals.

I could'nt compare with the Aristocrat because i never tried one, but this circuit now holds a good place in my favorite OD's

In my opinion it worth the try, maybe other could chime in.

Thanks

Rej
Title: Re: CJ's Game Of Tones Build DOC
Post by: midwayfair on September 30, 2012, 01:53:26 AM
Hey, Grindy, I got the boards in the mail. Thanks for posting the docs here ... I don't spend much time over on BYOC. :)
Title: Re: CJ's Game Of Tones Build DOC
Post by: GrindCustoms on September 30, 2012, 04:35:37 AM
Quote from: midwayfair on September 30, 2012, 01:53:26 AM
Hey, Grindy, I got the boards in the mail. Thanks for posting the docs here ... I don't spend much time over on BYOC. :)

Awesome! have a happy building ;)
Title: Re: CJ's Game Of Tones Build DOC
Post by: BRGPollen on September 30, 2012, 04:51:29 AM
Grind,
     Do you still have any of these pcb's?  I'd be interested in giving it a go if you do!

"B"
Title: Re: CJ's Game Of Tones Build DOC
Post by: GrindCustoms on September 30, 2012, 05:22:22 AM
Quote from: BRGPollen on September 30, 2012, 04:51:29 AM
Grind,
     Do you still have any of these pcb's?  I'd be interested in giving it a go if you do!

"B"

PM'd ;)
Title: Re: CJ's Game Of Tones Build DOC
Post by: bmossma on February 23, 2014, 05:02:03 PM
Sorry to revive this zombie thread, but the link to the Doc's is no longer available. I've got one almost built up, but need to know what the pot values are.  Thanks!
Title: Re: CJ's Game Of Tones Build DOC
Post by: jimilee on February 23, 2014, 05:17:24 PM
Grindcustoms.com. Is that the same board you have?
Title: Re: CJ's Game Of Tones Build DOC
Post by: GrindCustoms on February 24, 2014, 05:45:55 PM
Quote from: jimilee on February 23, 2014, 05:17:24 PM
Grindcustoms.com. Is that the same board you have?

Yes Sir Yes!

Effdub/Grind Coalition! 8)
Title: Re: CJ's Game Of Tones Build DOC
Post by: Clayford on February 24, 2014, 05:51:04 PM
Quote from: GrindCustoms on February 24, 2014, 05:45:55 PM
Quote from: jimilee on February 23, 2014, 05:17:24 PM
Grindcustoms.com. Is that the same board you have?

Yes Sir Yes!

Effdub/Grind Coalition! 8)
Grind,
I think the issue is a missing build doc... Can you help him out?
Title: Re: CJ's Game Of Tones Build DOC
Post by: GermanCdn on February 24, 2014, 05:57:19 PM
Pretty sure the build doc is exactly the same for both, so the one on Rej's site will work fine.
Title: Re: CJ's Game Of Tones Build DOC
Post by: Clayford on February 24, 2014, 06:16:10 PM
I tried looking on his site - THe goat is a Blues Breaker board - but I couldn't find a KOT board... Perhaps I'm overlooking?
Title: Re: CJ's Game Of Tones Build DOC
Post by: culturejam on February 24, 2014, 06:33:54 PM
Quote from: Clayford on February 24, 2014, 06:16:10 PM
I tried looking on his site - THe goat is a Blues Breaker board - but I couldn't find a KOT board... Perhaps I'm overlooking?

KOT = Bluesbreaker X2
Title: Re: CJ's Game Of Tones Build DOC
Post by: GrindCustoms on February 24, 2014, 06:57:19 PM
It's the same pcb layout.. just some part number that have changed i believe... use pcb image as reference.

And yes they are modified BBOD, like Forrest said you'll need 2 in order to make a KOT.
Title: Re: CJ's Game Of Tones Build DOC
Post by: Clayford on February 24, 2014, 08:17:59 PM
I thought I remembered reading somewhere that you had stacked opamps, different diodes, and a different gain pot or something for the higher gain side

Perhaps my madness has finally taken over?
Title: Re: CJ's Game Of Tones Build DOC
Post by: GermanCdn on February 24, 2014, 08:48:09 PM
No, I built mine up with different opamps (not stacked) and different diodes and pots, so you are correct, but that was just my own take off of Rej's boards.  But the core BOM is the same.
Title: Re: CJ's Game Of Tones Build DOC
Post by: jimilee on February 24, 2014, 08:54:18 PM

Quote from: Clayford on February 24, 2014, 08:17:59 PM
I thought I remembered reading somewhere that you had stacked opamps, different diodes, and a different gain pot or something for the higher gain side

Perhaps my madness has finally taken over?
Yep, on the forums and grind customs, Rej makes some suggestions on how to do it. I stacked them on one side, sounds pretty mean.
Title: Re: CJ's Game Of Tones Build DOC
Post by: GrindCustoms on February 24, 2014, 11:16:34 PM
Don't know if it's written somewhere, but i also use C250K for the HighGain side that i usually put in front of the LowerGain one, it's stacks better to me.