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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: irmcdermott on January 03, 2013, 12:56:39 AM

Title: Etchers - "Safer" Muriatic Acid
Post by: irmcdermott on January 03, 2013, 12:56:39 AM
So, I usually by my Muriatic Acid for etching at Lowes, but I was on the opposite side of town that day and ended up at Home Depot. They sell this "safer Muriatic Acid" (http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-202690263/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=muriatic+acid&storeId=10051#.UOTULInjmnY) that advertises 90% lower fumes. I decided to try it out, a little reluctant, thinking it might be a little too good to be true, and wondering if it would be as affective.

While I don't recommend this, I took off the mask and opened up the bottle to test this less fumes claim. Sure enough, nothing fumed up when I opened the container to burn my nostrils, and unless I was pretty close to the container, I didn't really notice a strong smell, but you still knew it was open. First test passed.

I mixed my usual 1:1 ratio to see how it etched. It worked just fine. I don't want to start selling snake oil, but there is a part of me that thinks I may have gotten a faster etch than usual? Could have been in my brain, or because it was a freshly mixed batch, but it worked great. This is the new product I'm buying and I encourage other home etchers to give it a whirl, the almost no fumes is amazing.

Ian
Title: Re: Etchers - "Safer" Muriatic Acid
Post by: jeffaroo on January 03, 2013, 10:17:35 AM
we have "Safer" at Lowes as well
Title: Re: Etchers - "Safer" Muriatic Acid
Post by: irmcdermott on January 03, 2013, 03:27:04 PM
Quote from: jeffaroo on January 03, 2013, 10:17:35 AM
we have "Safer" at Lowes as well

Awesome. Glad to know I can get it there next time.
Title: Re: Etchers - "Safer" Muriatic Acid
Post by: crashguitar on January 04, 2013, 02:41:45 PM
Cool tip. I am going to have to try this. I have been hesitant to go the muriatic acid path because of the fumes. Thanks for posting.

Chad
Title: Re: Etchers - "Safer" Muriatic Acid
Post by: irmcdermott on January 05, 2013, 12:41:58 AM
I'll also add that while the fumes are minimal, you still need to work in a very well ventilated area and it is a good idea to just throw a mask on.
Title: Re: Etchers - "Safer" Muriatic Acid
Post by: aziltz on January 05, 2013, 01:55:03 AM
what about fumes that have no odor?
Title: Re: Etchers - "Safer" Muriatic Acid
Post by: irmcdermott on January 05, 2013, 02:06:16 AM
Quote from: aziltz on January 05, 2013, 01:55:03 AM
what about fumes that have no odor?

if this is in reply to my comment on still wearing a mask, etc. It's just good practices, just because the fumes are 90% less, you are still handling a chemical, it's just good practice, that's all.

but yes, the fumes on this are extremely low and unnoticeable.
Title: Re: Etchers - "Safer" Muriatic Acid
Post by: jeffaroo on January 05, 2013, 07:11:38 AM
fumes with no odor is what we call a LUCKY fart.
as far as safety. dont skimp on the safety stuff. i got a single drop of muratic acid in the eye once and wasted 5 hours at the hospital with a nasty eye wash thing. then i ran around with a damn eye patch !
Arrr
Title: Re: Etchers - "Safer" Muriatic Acid
Post by: jimijam on January 10, 2013, 04:56:19 PM
that's what eye use regularly. doesn't make my eyes water like regular muriatic acid. I found the etch times a bit slower but still much faster than ferric chloride.
Title: Re: Etchers - "Safer" Muriatic Acid
Post by: jeffaroo on January 11, 2013, 02:04:12 AM
tastes best on chicken ! :P
Title: Re: Etchers - "Safer" Muriatic Acid
Post by: stecykmi on January 13, 2013, 06:24:23 AM
i use 3 part hydrogen peroxide and 2 parts hydrocholric acid. it gives off some pretty noxious fumes sometimes.

in any case, though safer, you still wind up with some nasty, hard-to-dispose-of liquid. i still don't know how to dispose of something like that properly.
Title: Re: Etchers - "Safer" Muriatic Acid
Post by: jeffaroo on January 13, 2013, 07:24:00 AM
just throw it across your neighbors lawn