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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: jtn191 on January 09, 2013, 02:23:10 PM

Title: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: jtn191 on January 09, 2013, 02:23:10 PM
Just as I was feelin pretty good about boxing my vico vibe in a 1590a last night...

TC drops a looper in a 1590a.  :o And not the true bypass kind:
http://www.effectsdatabase.com/model/tcelectronic/ditto

Title: Re: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: hammerheadmusicman on January 09, 2013, 02:28:50 PM
I have a flashback delay, and that has a no nonense looper built in to it, I'm guessing they just took that and put it in a standalone unit..


George
Title: Re: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: madbean on January 09, 2013, 02:36:22 PM
I will totally buy that. Exactly what I want in a looper---one freaking knob.
Title: Re: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: gtr2 on January 09, 2013, 02:37:22 PM
That is going to be VERY VERY popular!

Josh
Title: Re: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: midwayfair on January 09, 2013, 02:38:35 PM
...

I want this very, very [edit: VERY] badly ...
Title: Re: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: jtn191 on January 09, 2013, 02:40:15 PM
yeah me too. This is exactly what I like to see from commercial companies...doing something most of us can't. so simple. This is enough to change my opinion on TC (which was "meh" before)
max advertised price: ~$125

I tried to use my friend's RC-30 one time. I consider myself fairly fast at learning that would not sink in...
Title: Re: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: gtr2 on January 09, 2013, 03:24:51 PM
I do wish it was in a 1590B size though.  I'm not a big fan of stepping on the 1590a sized boxes.

I'll still be buying one though  :)

Josh
Title: Re: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: p_wats on January 09, 2013, 04:25:44 PM
That is awesome. I love the wonky reverse and delay functions of my RC20XL and Boomerang (I also currently have an RC300, but I don't think that's sticking around), but something so small is amazing!

I wonder when it will be DIYable? ;)
Title: Re: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: JakeFuzz on January 09, 2013, 04:56:16 PM
Yep I have to see what he means by affordable but this needs to go on my 1590a board. Very nice TC.
Title: Re: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: patrickbrose on January 09, 2013, 05:11:05 PM
If it comes in at $100, I'll bite. $125 will make me wait until someone sells a used one. I've actually never owned a looper, so I am not sure if I would use one. Seems cool though.
I saw your thread over at BYOC P-Watts. How do you use your loopers? Is it a live thing, or do you use them for song writing? I have never figured the real use for them. If I am writing, I simply open up Garage Band and record a track, then work on the other parts.
-P
Title: Re: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: pk1802 on January 09, 2013, 05:33:12 PM
Do any of you guys have experience with loopers when playing with a drummer?

I sometimes have to re-tap my delays in so that my dotted 8ths are in time with the rest of the band. If I lay down a loop do I have to go back and change it if it gets out of time with the band?

I can solve all those problems with a computer and click tracks, but if I'm doing that, I could just add backing tracks with the other guitar parts defeating my need for a looper.
Title: Re: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: p_wats on January 09, 2013, 05:34:28 PM
Quote from: patrickbrose on January 09, 2013, 05:11:05 PM
If it comes in at $100, I'll bite. $125 will make me wait until someone sells a used one. I've actually never owned a looper, so I am not sure if I would use one. Seems cool though.
I saw your thread over at BYOC P-Watts. How do you use your loopers? Is it a live thing, or do you use them for song writing? I have never figured the real use for them. If I am writing, I simply open up Garage Band and record a track, then work on the other parts.
-P

Hey Patrick, I use a looper for a number of things:

- Live: for adding ambient reverse nonsense or a bit of a rhythm part
- Writing: helps me work on lead lines/solos and figure out accompaniment a bit
- Random noodling: I'll layer a ton of nonsense and see what happens, it's amazing how many songs ideas have come out of this

For me it's just a lot easier to turn on my amp and start jamming (my rig is setup all the time) than get the computer going and record, playback, etc. (though I do that too when I'm really in the thick of things).
Title: Re: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: hammerheadmusicman on January 09, 2013, 05:37:53 PM
1 word of caution, if this uses the same method of stopping and starting as my flashback loop function, i.e press once to start/start a new dub, press twice to stop etc.. it's a bit fiddly!!

I use  it when i am teaching guitar one on one, to lay down a little backing track etc..

there have been countless 'hang on/wait a minute' situations where it has played me up! i really want to try it though, i looks good!

G
Title: Re: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: Scruffie on January 09, 2013, 05:55:47 PM
Quote from: hammerheadmusicman on January 09, 2013, 05:37:53 PM
1 word of caution, if this uses the same method of stopping and starting as my flashback loop function, i.e press once to start/start a new dub, press twice to stop etc.. it's a bit fiddly!!

I use  it when i am teaching guitar one on one, to lay down a little backing track etc..

there have been countless 'hang on/wait a minute' situations where it has played me up! i really want to try it though, i looks good!

G

(http://www.tcelectronic.com/media/1563397/ditto-looper-quick-start-guide.jpg)

Think I saw mention of $125 elsewhere.

http://www.tcelectronic.com/ditto-looper/
Title: Re: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: jimijam on January 09, 2013, 05:56:59 PM
this is perfect for what I would need in a looper. particularly for laying down a simple 1 chord vamp or simple progression for me to wrap my head around unfamiliar chords. which is how I usually tend to use a looper. I would imagine the price is gonna be quite low if the retail value of the flashback is any indication. I would expect it to be $100 or less. I bet this will set a trend particularly among the chinese knock off brands.
Title: Re: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: aballen on January 09, 2013, 06:04:20 PM
It says true bypass, but that same footswitch controls the functions... wouldn't it have to be a buffered bypass?
Title: Re: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: oldhousescott on January 09, 2013, 06:23:01 PM
It could be a logic controlled relay and still be "true bypass".
Title: Re: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: nzCdog on January 09, 2013, 07:16:44 PM
Mmmmmmm interesting
Title: Re: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: madbean on January 09, 2013, 07:25:29 PM
Quote from: oldhousescott on January 09, 2013, 06:23:01 PM
It could be a logic controlled relay and still be "true bypass".

Yep, my thought exactly.
Title: Re: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: hammerheadmusicman on January 09, 2013, 08:54:56 PM
Yeah, that switching looks better, the flashback one is a bit fiinicky at times..


this loks interesting though. TC make some killer stuff, nothing too flash but sturdy and good sounding.. The flashback is a good 'small package/lots of tonal options' pedal.

george
Title: Re: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: Micpoc on January 09, 2013, 10:56:37 PM
(puts on Spock ears)

Fascinating.
Title: Re: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: jkokura on January 10, 2013, 12:25:01 AM
Finally watched the video. Aside from it being in a 1590a, it's pretty awesome seeming.

Jacob
Title: Re: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: jeffaroo on January 10, 2013, 12:51:30 AM
AWESOME !

L105.00
WHATEVER A "L" IS

http://www.dv247.com/studio-equipment/tc-electronic-ditto-looper-pedal--104461
Title: Re: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: patrickbrose on January 10, 2013, 04:16:56 PM
British Pounds, typically 1.5% of US currency, so 105 Pounds would be about $150, but, in reality, we get things cheaper, so I would guess closer to $120. But as TC pricing indicates, it will more likely be $89. See the Polytune mini as an example.
-P
Title: Re: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: stecykmi on January 13, 2013, 06:29:14 AM
i wonder how much it's gonna be in Canada. this might be something to add to my wishlist...

last pedal i just had to have was the EHX freeze, another "creativity tool" pedal, haha.
Title: Re: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: icecycle66 on January 14, 2013, 11:11:53 PM
How's it sound on bass?

http://www.notreble.com/buzz/2013/01/13/tc-electronic-announces-ditto-looper-pedal/
Title: Re: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: mandrewbot3k on January 16, 2013, 08:34:18 PM
looks killer.

A second bonus, it would be nice to throw in the beginning of your chain too to play with amp and pedal settings where you could set your guitar down and fiddle.
Title: Re: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: DutchMF on January 16, 2013, 08:45:33 PM
Quote from: jkokura on January 10, 2013, 12:25:01 AM
Finally watched the video. Aside from it being in a 1590a, it's pretty awesome seeming.

Jacob

LOL! I'm with you on that Jacob, my feet are to big!

Paul
Title: Re: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: hammerheadmusicman on January 16, 2013, 10:44:17 PM
Get with the miniture pedal program Paul!  Just bought some of those tiny boards from Jim for big muffs and the Apis. it's all about the baby pedals!
Title: Re: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: DutchMF on January 17, 2013, 06:48:01 AM
I don't mind building them, it's using them that goes horribly wrong.........
Title: Re: geeze louise...(new tc electronic)
Post by: sirbergersworth on January 17, 2013, 06:49:27 AM
Quote from: roflcopter on January 16, 2013, 08:34:18 PMA second bonus, it would be nice to throw in the beginning of your chain too to play with amp and pedal settings where you could set your guitar down and fiddle.

That is a great idea.
I will buy as soon as it is available. I had a borrowed (from drummer) Boss double pedal looper thingy but it sounded like crap to me and I wasn't a fan of it being tempo based. I like the TC's idea where it is time based.

I cannot wait to play with myself again.....wait...