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Title: Etching...
Post by: JakeFuzz on December 14, 2010, 03:06:36 AM
Etched my first couple of boards today. I am having difficulty getting to the final mask stage just before the etchant bath. I am using heavy stock, glossy photopaper from the laser printer at Kinko's. After very, very hot ironing and soaking for an hour or so i peel off the first couple layers of paper. My problem is removing the material between the traces, I use a toothbrush and a hobby razor but I either end up marring the traces or brushing things too far down. This stuff is tough to remove, any advice to get it off easier?
Title: Re: Etching...
Post by: eniacmike on December 14, 2010, 03:29:41 AM
I use magazine paper it absorbs the water alot better. Even better is cheap glossy newspaper ads too. basically you want paper that is going to pulp up really easy. I have been using an issue of elektor for months now and it works great.

I just soak my boards for an hour and the paper falls right off.

I don't have much advice for the paper you used though, sorry.
Title: Re: Etching...
Post by: JakeFuzz on December 14, 2010, 10:35:31 AM
Do you get that printed someplace or do you have a laser printer? I figured it must be the paper I am using, stuff just sticks like glue. I don't think the lady at Kinko's would be too happy if I asked her to print something out on a torn out magazine page.
Title: Re: Etching...
Post by: Haberdasher on December 14, 2010, 12:54:38 PM
I can't speak to the paper you're using, but the stuff I have used is pretty touchy.  If too much heat is applied it sticks really bad just as you are describing, and I end up taking off toner traces trying to remove the paper.  However, if I use just right amount of heat and pressure, the paper comes right off in the water bath.  Unfortunately I can't describe how much heat and pressure it is because I use a laminator instead of an iron.

It sounds like you either need to experiment with the amount of heat used or try a different paper.  Like I said, that is just from my experience with the paper I've used- so it's really just a guess on my part- but I'd back off the heat.
Title: Re: Etching...
Post by: madbean on December 14, 2010, 01:09:55 PM
You need a different type of paper. Most glossy stock is not suitable for transfer. In this case, since you must have them done at a print shop, I suggest you spring for PNP Blue. You will be much more satisfied with the results. Sterling Ultra Digital will also work, but is a little trickier to use.
Title: Re: Etching...
Post by: JakeFuzz on December 14, 2010, 06:49:55 PM
Press N Peel it is then. I am going to run this batch until I get it right and then buy a few sheets of that stuff for my next batch of boards. Thanks everyone.