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General => Global Annoucements => Topic started by: madbean on January 23, 2013, 03:33:40 AM

Title: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: madbean on January 23, 2013, 03:33:40 AM
I would like to take a more permissive attitude toward the use of madbeanpedals PCBs and projects. Most of you already know that in the first couple years of operation, I took a fairly strict "DIY USE ONLY" approach to licensing. With the more recent project releases the license agreement has been stated as the following:

[xxx] PCBs purchased from madbeanpedals may be used for small quantities of commercial pedal building (keep in mind that bulk discounting on PCBs is not offered). You may not, however, offer [these] PCBs for commercial resale (re-distribution) or as part of a "kit".

So, I would like to extend this to all the current PCBs offered for sale in the store. What does this mean?

Any PCB that is currently listed on the projects page can be used for your own commercial endeavors. This means PCBs purchased from the store, AND/OR made from the etching artwork in the documents (if available) can be used in your own pedals you make specifically for the purpose of selling. So, if you want to build some Big Muffs for sale and use the Mudbunny PCB (whether you buy them from me or etch your own from the artwork) that is totally okay. You do not need to credit me, or offer any compensation for this....EVEN WHEN USING THE ETCHABLE ARTWORK. Same with the Zero Points, Low Riders, fuzzes, etc. You know what I mean  ;)

Again, this has already been the case for the more recent projects, but I never "officially" extended it to all the current PCBs.

Two caveats: the "redistribution/kit" contingency is still in effect, so please do not make a ton of etched Mudbunnies and sell the PCBs on your own, or sell them as part of a kit. This is the only way madbeanpedals could be seriously damaged. And, this does not extend to the discontinued projects i.e., the "boutique" clones I no longer offer like the zVex clones, Klon, etc, blah blah. If you have any questions on particulars, just email or PM me.

Beyond that, it's up to you guys how you want to use them. Start a little pedal company, use some of these designs to get you going, and then hopefully branch out into your own designs/layouts, etc. Whatever you want to do!

Lastly, if you are using the MBP PCB's to sell your own pedals, it is a good idea (and my preference) that you do not use the same project name. For example, if you want to sell some Kingslayer builds, use a different name. The only reason for this is brand distinction....so that your customers don't think it is something I built (probably more applicable on re-sale or used, but you get the idea).

Beyond that it is only up to your imagination. I realize I'm a bit behind in terms of "licensing" compared to other people doing this kind of thing, so now it is time for an evolution. I want to continue to encourage and help you guys in whatever way I can in making your own path...whether that is a hobbyist, pedal maker, or whatever. Because that is what you have helped me do as well!

Feel free to ask particulars in this thread too, if you have questions.

Title: Re: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: timbo_93631 on January 23, 2013, 03:36:48 AM
You are awesome.  Thanks Brian.
Title: Re: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: midwayfair on January 23, 2013, 03:39:14 AM
Thanks, Brian.

Though I will continue to e-mail you every time I sell something with one of your boards to try and give you a cut of the pedal's selling price, even if you've told me "no" in the past. :)
Title: Re: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: culturejam on January 23, 2013, 03:40:46 AM
Nice update!

I would make sure to highlight this part, however:

QuoteAnd, this does not extend to the discontinued projects i.e., the "boutique" clones I no longer offer like the zVex clones, Klon, etc, blah blah.
Title: Re: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: jeffaroo on January 23, 2013, 03:42:09 AM
yeah Brian, put a cut on it and learn to talk like the godfather
Title: Re: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: jkokura on January 23, 2013, 04:38:33 AM
Thanks for the update Brian.

Jacob
Title: Re: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: wolfingsworth on January 23, 2013, 05:38:21 AM
Wow! This seems very generous! BTW when will we see some Madbean pedals for sale?
Title: Re: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: whitebread47 on January 23, 2013, 05:51:37 AM
I'd noticed this policy in the build docs of certain boards like the Range Master and I think Mudbunny as well and had been wondering where everything stood on that.  Thanks for the clarification, Brian, and everything else that you do for this community!
Title: Re: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: somnabula on January 23, 2013, 07:50:36 AM
Whoa Brian, you are too good for this hard and cruel world.  ;D
Title: Re: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: juansolo on January 23, 2013, 10:33:52 AM
Good man  8)
Title: Re: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: raulduke on January 23, 2013, 11:26:44 AM
Nice one.

Very generous of you dude.
Title: Re: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: electricstorm on January 23, 2013, 01:21:06 PM
Very very generous Brian! Wow, what a wonderful person!!!

Still think you should get a percentage though, IMHO.

Jim
Title: Re: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: fendman on January 23, 2013, 02:25:03 PM
You are very kind thinking about others and their futures...Thankyou :)
Title: Re: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: eldanko on January 23, 2013, 04:30:57 PM
How bout we all take a percentage of our builds, throw it into a fund, and get Brian a nice sweater for Christmas each year?   ;D
Title: Re: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: madbean on January 23, 2013, 04:39:06 PM
Ha ha, sure. I like black and grey. No Cosby sweaters.
Title: Re: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: murdog47 on January 23, 2013, 05:02:48 PM
Could not help myself  :)

(http://i1077.photobucket.com/albums/w466/pmurray47/Brian.png)
Title: Re: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: jackbart1960 on January 26, 2013, 04:45:26 PM
Murdog that's just to F'n funny!!!
Thank you Brian!
Title: Re: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: aballen on January 29, 2013, 02:19:07 AM
Nicely done Brian.  I think allowing resale of built pedals is a nice move.
Title: Re: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: pryde on January 29, 2013, 04:04:51 AM
Seriously top notch, thank you  :)
Title: Re: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: neiloler on January 31, 2013, 06:56:09 AM
You put the spoon in the pudding...

Thanks Brian! ...for the licensing change, not the Cosbey reference inspiration...
Title: Re: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: LaceSensor on January 31, 2013, 08:57:20 AM
Appreciate this gesture.
I dont sell a lot of pedals or build in vast quantities but its nice to know that if a mate wants me to make him a Big Muff or something I can use a nice PCB from here rather than vero etc

Cheers!
Title: Re: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: artstomp on January 31, 2013, 11:58:58 AM
..tnx so much Brian...you're such a wonderful person!!!..long live Madbean!
Title: Re: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: timbo_93631 on February 01, 2013, 05:21:01 AM
Quote from: madbean on January 23, 2013, 04:39:06 PM
Ha ha, sure. I like black and grey. No Cosby sweaters.

This is, for all intents and purposes, the same as saying, "only Cosby sweaters guys". 
Title: Re: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: Khronic on February 16, 2013, 12:25:57 AM
You Rock Brian Tyvm Sir!
Title: Re: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: danwelsh on February 16, 2013, 12:36:37 AM
That is just way too cool, right on man!! ;D
Title: Re: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: chordball on February 16, 2013, 03:09:15 AM
Very generous and awesome of you! Still, I only build for personal use.

Thanks for all your work! ;D
Title: Re: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: guycapuano on March 06, 2013, 03:29:07 AM
OUTSTANDING thanks Brian!
Title: Re: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: brainbender on March 07, 2013, 07:14:38 PM
Thank you! :)
Title: Re: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: mah62 on December 20, 2013, 06:10:13 PM
Brian,

Total respect, many thanks, dude. Happy hols!!

Mark :)
Title: Re: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: danwelsh on January 23, 2014, 09:03:13 AM
That's totally wicked man
Title: Re: 2013- Official License Agreement changes~ new opportunites for customers/members
Post by: Micpoc on January 23, 2014, 02:24:54 PM
Cliff! It's been so long...  ;D