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Title: Victorinox
Post by: pickdropper on January 29, 2013, 02:10:11 PM
I decided to make a 3 in 1 of some of my most used circuits so that I could have one standard sized pedal that I could carry around with me to do most of what I actually need.

This is my Swiss Army Pedal, which has a Screwdriver + Shoot the Moon + Deep Blue Delay.  I love them  all.  :-)

The Germanium in the Screwdriver is from CJ and sounds great.  I am going to try a few others in there out of curiosity, but it can only get better from here.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/pickdropper/Guitar%20Pedals/Victorinox1_zps973ec6f7.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/pickdropper/Guitar%20Pedals/Victorinox2_zpsfce25106.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v158/pickdropper/Guitar%20Pedals/Victorinox3_zpsf2ec77da.jpg)

Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: hammerheadmusicman on January 29, 2013, 02:11:18 PM
This is serious! YOu're churning out some great stuff at the moment!

George
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: chordball on January 29, 2013, 02:13:38 PM
 :o :o

That's the cleanest 3 in 1 I've ever seen! Excellent work man.
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: midwayfair on January 29, 2013, 02:57:41 PM
Quote from: chordball on January 29, 2013, 02:13:38 PM
That's the cleanest 3 in 1 I've ever seen! Excellent work man.

+1. This is cleaner than many 1-in-1s.  :o

Also, I love the simplicity of the red cross logo on a pedal that's a self-contained grab and go pedalboard.
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: plesur on January 29, 2013, 03:01:00 PM
Great Swiss Army theme, really nice looking pedal.
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: Cortexturizer on January 29, 2013, 03:03:29 PM
This...is awesome. Fantastic work dude. I'd love to try it. If I were to build a personal go to gig 3in1, I'd go with a fuzz face [maybe Lunar Module which is essentially the same topology as a Screwdriver], then I'd do a phaser of some kind, and in the end, the third one, would be the aqua puss. My god, I have to make it.
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: madbean on January 29, 2013, 03:54:09 PM
My god, you are just KILLING! That is so clean and cool looking. And, a great mix of circuits. You have won the internet for today :)
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: JakeFuzz on January 29, 2013, 03:59:26 PM
That is one of the coolest DIY pedals I have ever seen. Excellent work. I love that graphic. Those shiny aluminum knobs do make it look like a Swiss army knife.
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: marmaliser on January 29, 2013, 04:01:02 PM
Amazing. only let down by the lack of a can opener  :P
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: eldanko on January 29, 2013, 04:15:30 PM
Un-freakin-real. When you gonna start a company and take over the world?
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: pickdropper on January 29, 2013, 04:15:39 PM
Thanks for the kind words guys.

As far as the wiring goes, lets just say that it took a while.   With all the 9mm pots in there and the tight spacing, I had to keep the wire lengths real short.  I was verifying two of the PCBs at the same time, so I had to build it in stages a bit.
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: pickdropper on January 29, 2013, 04:17:01 PM
Quote from: Cortexturizer on January 29, 2013, 03:03:29 PM
This...is awesome. Fantastic work dude. I'd love to try it. If I were to build a personal go to gig 3in1, I'd go with a fuzz face [maybe Lunar Module which is essentially the same topology as a Screwdriver], then I'd do a phaser of some kind, and in the end, the third one, would be the aqua puss. My god, I have to make it.

That actually sounds like another build I am working on.  It has a Lunar Module, Phase 90, Reverb and MultiPlex delay.  With 5 footswitches, it had to be in a very large enclosure to be usable.
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: pickdropper on January 29, 2013, 04:17:36 PM
Quote from: marmaliser on January 29, 2013, 04:01:02 PM
Amazing. only let down by the lack of a can opener  :P

True, but at least it has a screwdriver.  :-)
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: raulduke on January 29, 2013, 04:43:08 PM
This is just made of win.

Really nice build dude  :o
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: Haberdasher on January 29, 2013, 04:45:56 PM
that's just sick dave.  you win.
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: spaceboss on January 29, 2013, 05:00:38 PM
It's not that you just do one thing well (enclosure, wiring, pcb design, smd): you do everything well. You are a  human Swiss Army Knife.
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: juansolo on January 29, 2013, 05:42:06 PM
 :o holy crap!
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: jkokura on January 29, 2013, 05:44:00 PM
Uh Dave, you forgot room for a battery...


Seriously. You are sick.

Jacob
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: pickdropper on January 29, 2013, 07:38:00 PM
Quote from: jkokura on January 29, 2013, 05:44:00 PM
Uh Dave, you forgot room for a battery...


Seriously. You are sick.

Jacob

If any batteries go in there, it is going to have to be a handful of coin cells.  :-)
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: nzCdog on January 29, 2013, 11:13:30 PM
Yoikes!  Totally awesome build!! :o
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: hoodoo on January 30, 2013, 12:27:24 AM
Robot, with soldering iron arms, gotta be!!! ;)
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: slimtriggers on January 30, 2013, 01:23:58 AM
Holy crap!  This is unreal!  So clean! :o :o :o
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: wgc on January 30, 2013, 01:46:06 AM
Can't believe I almost missed this...!  Really cool pedal and love the theme.  Gotta figure out a way to get a toothpick in there ;D
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: pickdropper on January 30, 2013, 01:49:44 AM
Quote from: wgc on January 30, 2013, 01:46:06 AM
Can't believe I almost missed this...!  Really cool pedal and love the theme.  Gotta figure out a way to get a toothpick in there ;D

It had a toothpick, but it fell out and I lost it.  :-)
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: bigrigg on January 30, 2013, 02:32:19 AM
Nice use of real estate.  congrats
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: lincolnic on January 30, 2013, 04:14:10 AM
This is either going to inspire me to step up my own game, or quit building. Not sure which yet.
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: wolfingsworth on January 30, 2013, 04:37:25 AM
Perfect. I'm sure you could surface mount a bottle opener or something... Can't wait to see your five in one! Great job Dave, raising the bar even higher.
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: MattOcaster on January 30, 2013, 08:23:01 PM
Aaaaah you taunt me with your beautiful laser etched boxes!
One day I'm gonna snap  ;D
Nice!

Quick question: do you find it quicker to assemble an SMD or through hole board?
Aside from obvious space saving, has learning SMD been a worthwhile investment to cut down build time?
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: pickdropper on January 30, 2013, 08:35:57 PM
Quote from: MattOcaster on January 30, 2013, 08:23:01 PM
Aaaaah you taunt me with your beautiful laser etched boxes!
One day I'm gonna snap  ;D
Nice!

Quick question: do you find it quicker to assemble an SMD or through hole board?
Aside from obvious space saving, has learning SMD been a worthwhile investment to cut down build time?

The way I build, they are comparable as far as build time, but I am somewhat methodical about the way I go about things.

For me, the advantage of SMT is that I can shrink down the circuits.  I also just like populating boards that way, at least some of the time.
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: dodgechargerfan on January 30, 2013, 10:13:32 PM
Fantastic work!

I love the simplicity of the graphics.
The silver knobs are perfect.
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: mshuptar on January 31, 2013, 01:43:27 AM
That. is. awesome.
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: jimijam on January 31, 2013, 02:01:17 AM
You could eat off of it. It's that clean. very nice build mate.
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: sirbergersworth on February 01, 2013, 12:41:24 AM
Incredible Build!
Super Cool!
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: electricstorm on February 01, 2013, 03:19:53 AM
Beautiful build there man!

Couple of questions though. Are all your components on one side of the board or do you use both sides of the board when laying them out?

I worked at IBM years ago with SMD. But as a hobby, how did you go about jumping into the SMD builds?

Jim
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: pedalman on February 01, 2013, 07:18:52 AM
cleaner than a swiss army knife
very nice
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: pickdropper on February 01, 2013, 01:16:17 PM
Quote from: electricstorm on February 01, 2013, 03:19:53 AM
Beautiful build there man!

Couple of questions though. Are all your components on one side of the board or do you use both sides of the board when laying them out?

I worked at IBM years ago with SMD. But as a hobby, how did you go about jumping into the SMD builds?

Jim

Thanks, Jim.

To answer your question, some of the boards here have components on one side, some have components on both sides (they all have traces on both sides).  all three boards in this build are slightly different:

1.)  Screwdriver board - All of the components are on 1 side.

2.)  DBD board - It has components on both sides

3.)  Shoot the Moon Board - This is a double-sided board, but each side has a totally separate circuit.  One side is trem, the other side is chorus.  I didn't need chorus for this build, so I only populated the trem circuit (which is usually the bottom side).  That is why there is such a long dead area on that board.  The top layer is a lot more dense of a layout.  If you search for my Moon Angel build, you can see the top side

As far as how to get into it, that is a bit more difficult to answer.  I had already done some SMT work, so I decided to layout a board with it in Eagle and it kind of grew from there.

I did small prototype runs of 10 pieces for each of these boards so I do have a few extras if you want to try giving one a shot.  Doing one of those, or finding another existing SMT layout might be a good way to get started in the hobby.

I'd be happy to answer more questions if you have any.

- Dave

Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: electricstorm on February 02, 2013, 09:16:14 PM
Cool!

How much for a Shoot the Moon board? I might be interested in learning to do this outside of a production environment. I may have other questions later, if you don't mind answering them.

Are there build docs for all the boards or just the Shoot the Moon board?

Jim
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: aballen on February 03, 2013, 02:13:44 AM
Just ridiculous man.  Your builds are just beautiful and your enclosure design is better than most of the production stuff I see out there.... Just wait by next year the big boys will be laser etching their enclosures like yours.
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: Rip57 on February 05, 2013, 03:02:26 PM
Whoa! Amazing work. Who needs a pedal pad when you have the Swiss Army Pedal?
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: electricstorm on March 01, 2013, 01:28:31 AM
Dave,

I am going to populate both sides of the Moon Angel board I bought from you a while back and wanted to ask you about the SMD UA78L05CPK regulator. The packaging says it is moisture-sensitive and may require a baking process before soldering. Did you have any problems with it? Did you have to do a baking process or is this just for production solder reflow process where the device is subjected to high temps for long periods?

Sorry if this was not the right place to ask these questions.

Thanks,

Jim
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: pickdropper on March 01, 2013, 02:28:07 AM
Hey Jim,

It shouldn't be a problem for hand soldering.  That issue usually shows up with reflow.

I've soldered those regulators by hand multiple times by hand without issue.

With PT2399 builds, I usually verify the regulator voltage before I solder the chip in.
Title: Re: Victorinox
Post by: electricstorm on March 01, 2013, 04:25:06 AM
Thanks Dave!