It's way past time to have another build contest here. But, rather than doing a months long thing with a huge prize at the end, I think I would prefer a monthly one with a prize of store credit awarded to the winner.
There are so many amazing builders here now, I think this will be a very fun and rewarding way to keep folks coming here. I'm just constantly blown away by the quality of work being shown!
I can put the mechanics of this together pretty easily with a dedicated forum, rules, submission guidelines, etc. But, here's what I'm not sure of: should the winner be decided by vote or by a panel of judges? What do you think is the best approach?
I think it would be fun to let everyone vote. Maybe accept submissions for first three weeks and use last week for voting? Just an idea...
It's been a while but do we really need to wait 90 years for the next one? ;D
Voting could mean favourtism for certan builders where as judges can be more impartial and do it on merit.
I'd happily help judge as I wont be posting any pretty builds :) if any.
Good idea anyway, month long ones always mean everyone rushing to get builds in and then being dissapointed where a month by month basis continues to give the chance as people build and not feel they're going to loose out on a specific prize compared to a fun reward for there work.
I like this idea a lot. Having it where people vote for their favorite build would be cool, since even folks who don't have a build in the contest can participate in some way, but I do understand Scruffie's point as well.
Quote from: Scruffie on January 29, 2013, 04:25:34 PM
It's been a while but do we really need to wait 90 years for the next one? ;D
lol! Gives us all time to make something totally epic!
Gah, changed to 2013.
Quote from: juansolo on January 29, 2013, 04:30:45 PM
Quote from: Scruffie on January 29, 2013, 04:25:34 PM
It's been a while but do we really need to wait 90 years for the next one? ;D
lol! Gives us all time to make something totally epic!
Diecast aluminium swirly painted coffin with 1/4" & XLR Outs and an LED border?
I now desperately want coffin shaped hammond enclosures... *rubs chin*
This could be nice, but I think pickdropper would win every month, seen his Victorinox? ;D
Quote from: juansolo on January 29, 2013, 04:39:02 PM
I now desperately want coffin shaped hammond enclosures... *rubs chin*
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRvSf0_vL8krkj_Tytz_muAAkRaVBLSmSY5903pzIgUz-i5EvPZAg
Quote from: DutchMF on January 29, 2013, 04:40:14 PM
This could be nice, but I think pickdropper would win every month, seen his Victorinox? ;D
haha, no doubt...he or juansolo every time. there should probably be a rule that states the same guy can't win more than 2x annually or something.
I think a public vote with a weighted judge vote for the moderators.
It's going to be hard picking just one Pickdropper build each month, though, I have to say. :P
Sounds good to me, but this of course means I have to start making graphics for my builds. Time to put my wife's Cricket to good use. Too bad it only has cake decorating patterns. Ah, well, going to ruin that just like I ruined the coffee grinder making home made fly tying dubbing....
This sounds like fun to me, and I agree that there should be a limit to how many times any one person can win. There are so many good builders here, there won't be any problem finding ones to vote for. The hardest part will be limiting it to just one each month.
Quote from: midwayfair on January 29, 2013, 04:47:30 PM
It's going to be hard picking just one Pickdropper build each month, though, I have to say. :P
My thoughts exactly. ;D
Quote from: Scruffie on January 29, 2013, 04:40:24 PM
Quote from: juansolo on January 29, 2013, 04:39:02 PM
I now desperately want coffin shaped hammond enclosures... *rubs chin*
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRvSf0_vL8krkj_Tytz_muAAkRaVBLSmSY5903pzIgUz-i5EvPZAg
Gah, beaten to it :(
Yes.
Jacob
I think it's a great idea!
What would the criteria be? No one can win more then x amount of times in x amount of months? Finish? Decal? Wiring? Soldering? Etc.
I think the voting should be done by the forum members, then if there is a draw, it goes to another voting round for the pedals that had the most amount of votes.
Amazingly, 2 days ago I started work on a dual valve pedal, may have to save it for a comp! Got the board cut, etched and drilled :)
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Quote from: stevie1556 on January 29, 2013, 05:41:26 PM
Amazingly, 2 days ago I started work on a dual valve pedal, may have to save it for a comp! Got the board cut, etched and drilled :)
I really don't want take anything away from your build, stevie1556, as it is probably really nice, but this is a risk we're taking: people saving their build reports until the next competition.... Do we want that? I mean, I get a huge kick out of turning on my computer, either at home or at work, checking the forum and being blown away by something brilliant! Now everyone has their own schedule.
Paul
Quote from: DutchMF on January 29, 2013, 06:27:57 PM
Quote from: stevie1556 on January 29, 2013, 05:41:26 PM
Amazingly, 2 days ago I started work on a dual valve pedal, may have to save it for a comp! Got the board cut, etched and drilled :)
I really don't want take anything away from your build, stevie1556, as it is probably really nice, but this is a risk we're taking: people saving their build reports until the next competition.... Do we want that? I mean, I get a huge kick out of turning on my computer, either at home or at work, checking the forum and being blown away by something brilliant! Now everyone has their own schedule.
Paul
TDPRI.com makes people print out a sheet of paper with the build information on it with the raw materials. Just a thought, but probably overkill. I think most people wouldn't save their build reports, but its one way to solve it. I would think each month would be pretty specific as to what kind of builds should be submitted. It would be kind of annoying after 8 months of Multiplex/rubadub combos winning every month with different graphics.
@Brian
Why not theme it to a board each month. eg... You must use a Kingslayer board for February. Hell it may help your sales too!
Quote from: stevie1556 on January 29, 2013, 05:41:26 PM
I think it's a great idea!
What would the criteria be? No one can win more then x amount of times in x amount of months? Finish? Decal? Wiring? Soldering? Etc.
I think the voting should be done by the forum members, then if there is a draw, it goes to another voting round for the pedals that had the most amount of votes.
Man, you have some good points here.
I think if it is a monthly thing, then there should be some sort rubric with s set of specific metrics that can be used to evaluate the the quality of the build. (i like rubrics)
voting could be by community. however, I think the results should be hidden, if possible, to avoid group bias. If someone doesn't with by a majority, then the admins step in and vote on the two with the most votes to indicate the winner. Or something like that.
Quote from: roflcopter on January 29, 2013, 07:01:58 PM
@Brian
Why not theme it to a board each month. eg... You must use a Kingslayer board for February. Hell it may help your sales too!
This I like! One of those 'win-win' things for sure, it could be done with every new release (no pressure Brian!), give it a time-frame of, say, 2 or 3 weeks, and then see which one is voted as being the best/cleverest/ingenious/whatever!
Maybe make it annual instead?
That way at the end of the year, people could nominate builds (cannot nominate your own) and the one with the most nominations wins the honour of being most awesome builder of 2013 or something ;)
I'm sure with the respective skills on this forum we could make an appropriate trophy...
Quote from: juansolo on January 29, 2013, 08:59:26 PM
Maybe make it annual instead?
That way at the end of the year, people could nominate builds (cannot nominate your own) and the one with the most nominations wins the honour of being most awesome builder of 2013 or something ;)
I'm sure with the respective skills on this forum we could make an appropriate trophy...
This assumes builders build all year long and check into the forum often enough. It's a cool idea though, but I like the monthly contest better. I think that we should do an annual 'year end' contest that's themed, but we should do a monthly contest that's very open and that just about any build would qualify for. With 12 winners, we could also do a calendar...
Jacob
Quote from: jkokura on January 29, 2013, 09:02:22 PMWith 12 winners, we could also do a calendar...
That's conjured all sorts of disturbing images of some of the builders on here posing with their weeners...
The monthly contests will not be theme-oriented by default, but maybe we will do that a couple of months.
I like the idea of all the winners being entered in a end of the year 'pedal of the year' contest, too. SOmething to think about.
I'll figure out the rules and entry process and such. It will NOT require using madbeanpedals projects., i.e. no purchase is necessary to enter.
Quote from: DutchMF on January 29, 2013, 08:55:32 PM
Quote from: roflcopter on January 29, 2013, 07:01:58 PM
@Brian
Why not theme it to a board each month. eg... You must use a Kingslayer board for February. Hell it may help your sales too!
This I like! One of those 'win-win' things for sure, it could be done with every new release (no pressure Brian!), give it a time-frame of, say, 2 or 3 weeks, and then see which one is voted as being the best/cleverest/ingenious/whatever!
I'm not a fan of this idea. Not enough people can afford to buy, build, and box a new release within weeks of its release.
Quote from: midwayfair on January 29, 2013, 09:19:23 PM
Quote from: DutchMF on January 29, 2013, 08:55:32 PM
Quote from: roflcopter on January 29, 2013, 07:01:58 PM
@Brian
Why not theme it to a board each month. eg... You must use a Kingslayer board for February. Hell it may help your sales too!
This I like! One of those 'win-win' things for sure, it could be done with every new release (no pressure Brian!), give it a time-frame of, say, 2 or 3 weeks, and then see which one is voted as being the best/cleverest/ingenious/whatever!
I'm not a fan of this idea. Not enough people can afford to buy, build, and box a new release within weeks of its release.
Yeah, I agree now. haha. I've changed my mind a little bit.
Just an idea... 12 monthly contests released at the beginning of each month, but they have a 2 month build time? It would work well for any new releases or give some more time for folks that don't have as much time (or money) to dedicate as they'd like.
Good stuff :)
Quote from: juansolo on January 29, 2013, 09:13:24 PM
Quote from: jkokura on January 29, 2013, 09:02:22 PMWith 12 winners, we could also do a calendar...
That's conjured all sorts of disturbing images of some of the builders on here posing with their weeners...
LOL, yeah, let's not do a calendar.
With a pedal covering intimate parts? I don't think i'm up for it ;)
or buying a calendar!
haha
Hmmm.. maybe it would help if there were categories to score on.. example...
Build - 1 2 3 4 5
Complexity - 1 2 3 4 5
Detail - 1 2 3 4 5
Fit and Finish - 1 2 3 4 5
Etc..
(categories are sorta made up and for example only)
But the idea would be each voter would score each build and give it a final point tally... I guess my over all idea is that a pedal would not win on just looks alone but the over all build and finish.. so maybe a not so fancy paint job but super clean wiring job and cool mods helps a pedals score..
Just some ideas..
AllenM
I think you guys are over thinking it,remember were musicians. I think the same thing we've been doing in build reports,only now it will inspire and challenge a little more creativity. Let's just keep making awesome pedals and enter them in addition to a build report. Annnnndddd go!
Quote from: DutchMF on January 29, 2013, 06:27:57 PM
I really don't want take anything away from your build, stevie1556, as it is probably really nice, but this is a risk we're taking: people saving their build reports until the next competition.... Do we want that? I mean, I get a huge kick out of turning on my computer, either at home or at work, checking the forum and being blown away by something brilliant! Now everyone has their own schedule.
Paul
That is a good point of saving builds. I've got a lot of stuff on my plate at the moment, as the misses has just found and booked a wedding venue, so there is a good chance it won't be fully finished for a couple of months yet.
I also love looking at build reports, amazing how neat some people are with their wiring!
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Quote from: roflcopter on January 29, 2013, 09:32:44 PM
Quote from: midwayfair on January 29, 2013, 09:19:23 PM
Quote from: DutchMF on January 29, 2013, 08:55:32 PM
Quote from: roflcopter on January 29, 2013, 07:01:58 PM
@Brian
Why not theme it to a board each month. eg... You must use a Kingslayer board for February. Hell it may help your sales too!
This I like! One of those 'win-win' things for sure, it could be done with every new release (no pressure Brian!), give it a time-frame of, say, 2 or 3 weeks, and then see which one is voted as being the best/cleverest/ingenious/whatever!
I'm not a fan of this idea. Not enough people can afford to buy, build, and box a new release within weeks of its release.
Yeah, I agree now. haha. I've changed my mind a little bit.
Just an idea... 12 monthly contests released at the beginning of each month, but they have a 2 month build time? It would work well for any new releases or give some more time for folks that don't have as much time (or money) to dedicate as they'd like.
You guys do have a good point there.
I think it's a really good idea the the contests. But I agree with jimilee, it's sorta over-thinking the concept. Lets keep it simple and do a monthly contest with no boundaries.
I can't do themes as it usually takes three to four week before I get my parts. I buy parts pr. pedal. Then I have to fit the actual build in my everyday life with children, work and misses. Guess I'm just slow in that account:-)
I think this is a great idea. Keep it simple, and limit the number of wins per year... otherwise I have no chance!
I agree with the simple idea. Maybe on the last day of the month, everybody votes on their favorite. If it needs more structure than that, maybe the mods could come up with the candidates for each month and everybody else could vote on them.
And I would vote for a limit of winning to once or twice per calendar year.
Quote from: pickdropper on January 30, 2013, 08:39:31 PM
And I would vote for a limit of winning to once or twice per calendar year.
This.
Quote from: lincolnic on January 31, 2013, 04:12:50 AM
Quote from: pickdropper on January 30, 2013, 08:39:31 PM
And I would vote for a limit of winning to once or twice per calendar year.
This.
This²
Partly because it's truly fair and could help avoid mutiny aboard the S.S. Bean, but it also "slightly" increases my chances. ;)
Quote from: whitebread47 on January 31, 2013, 06:43:33 AM
Partly because it's truly fair and could help avoid mutiny aboard the S.S. Bean, but it also "slightly" increases my chances. ;)
It also makes sure that we don't have just Jon, Juan, and Pickdropper winning all the time!
I like the idea. And it will obliges all to improve their work and for me and others that are starting it an opportunity to learn more with those gurus ;D
It should be interesting. If I were to submit anything (not sure it's worth bothering with that until the usuals have won!), I think I'd have to buy a USB thingie to mic up my amp. Or a video camera. Or something. (No, I don't have an iPhone or anything similar...)
Got a webcam or anything that captures video at all? He just stated just something to show the pedal is working.