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Title: Collosalous Help!
Post by: dfine22 on February 28, 2013, 05:25:56 PM
I built the board according to the layout but haven't boxed it up yet and then noticed that Brian has a update regarding  a diode change to 1n5817 and 100uf for C26. He indicates that his helped with the clock noise on his prototype only.  Now I am confused.
Should I leave it stock or make the changes in the update.
Thanks, David
Title: Re: Re: Collosalous Help!
Post by: gingataff on March 01, 2013, 12:08:35 AM
I'm finishing off a collosalus now and have some clock noise, I wish I'd done the mod or at least put some sockets in.

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Title: Re: Collosalous Help!
Post by: dfine22 on March 01, 2013, 02:54:07 AM
thanks gingataff. No one else seems to be responding!
Title: Re: Collosalous Help!
Post by: alanp on March 01, 2013, 04:29:19 AM
I changed the diodes in question and the capacitor.

I'm still getting clock noise.

Can you get bleedthrough on MN3007's at all?
Title: Re: Collosalous Help!
Post by: electricstorm on March 01, 2013, 04:35:35 AM
If I read the build doc right, I think he also said you could dial out some of the noise with the biasing and could probably get less noise with a 12v supply.
Title: Re: Collosalous Help!
Post by: Scruffie on March 01, 2013, 04:36:23 AM
Do you have clock noise? If not leave it stock, if so, try the mods.

Quote from: alanp on March 01, 2013, 04:29:19 AM
I changed the diodes in question and the capacitor.

I'm still getting clock noise.

Can you get bleedthrough on MN3007's at all?
What do you mean by bleedthrough?

Did you use board mounted pots? Long wires crossing etc can be a source of clock noise and board mounted pots (or the DIY kind) can help to keep that down.

It may also have clock noise due to too higher delay time (clock timing cap is too higher value).

Are you using a switch mode power supply? I think that's the issue Brian had hence the changes.
Title: Re: Collosalous Help!
Post by: dfine22 on March 03, 2013, 11:40:31 AM
Stil having some clock and a bit of extraneous noise.  I was meticulous with the build also. Darn. I used several different power supplies as well (Voodoo labs pedal power, one spot. etc.)I guess I'll have to make the recommended cap and diode changes.
(http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u518/davidsfine/P3020673_zpsd2cb5f41.jpg)

(http://i1071.photobucket.com/albums/u518/davidsfine/P3020676_zps13459e68.jpg)
Title: Re: Collosalous Help!
Post by: Hangingmonkey on March 03, 2013, 01:35:49 PM
Try 12v, that got rid of the noise for me. I cant remember if i did the diode and cap mods
Title: Re: Collosalous Help!
Post by: dfine22 on March 03, 2013, 02:10:05 PM
Thanks, I thought that was what the voltage converter was supposed to do?
Title: Re: Re: Collosalous Help!
Post by: gingataff on March 10, 2013, 12:56:15 AM
I tried mine with a 12v supply and the clock nose is gone.
It needs rebiasing though and I want to replace the fake 4558s I got from tayda with some real ones and see if that makes a difference.


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Title: Re: Collosalous Help!
Post by: Scruffie on March 12, 2013, 06:42:43 PM
How odd it went after that... guess the regulator wasn't getting enough voltage at 9V.

The changes should let more voltage through so probably help.

What makes you say the 4558s are fake? They work right...?
Title: Re: Collosalous Help!
Post by: pk1802 on March 12, 2013, 08:10:00 PM
I had a similar problem. I was using a switching mode power supply(like the one-spot or powerall), and I was getting a ton of noise, even when the collosalus was the only thing using the power supply. I just used a old standard transformer style wall wart, and the noise came down by an order of magnitude. It still makes some noise, but not nearly as much. Hopefully this can help someone else who is using the search feature to find a solution to this problem.
Title: Re: Collosalous Help!
Post by: Scruffie on March 12, 2013, 08:33:52 PM
Quote from: pk1802 on March 12, 2013, 08:10:00 PM
I had a similar problem. I was using a switching mode power supply(like the one-spot or powerall), and I was getting a ton of noise, even when the collosalus was the only thing using the power supply. I just used a old standard transformer style wall wart, and the noise came down by an order of magnitude. It still makes some noise, but not nearly as much. Hopefully this can help someone else who is using the search feature to find a solution to this problem.
This is probably down to heterodyning, 3 things switching (Supply, LT1054 & Clock) and the different frequencies start to interact.

Probably can be cured but easier to just use something transformer based.