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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: Jabulani Jonny on April 07, 2013, 02:27:46 AM

Title: Need direction on Sansamp type pedal
Post by: Jabulani Jonny on April 07, 2013, 02:27:46 AM
Hey guys, not sure if that's even what I'm looking for. However, I play a few times a month at a place where I can't run an amp, just direct to the mixer. I'd really be interested in building an amp in a pedal sort of thing that I could run to the mixer. I have no idea what I'm looking for. The pedal will not be used to drive an external cabinet, but will run direct. I may even toy around with throwing a verb board in there too. The amp type I would be looking for would be a Fender sound.

Any direction would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Title: Re: Need direction on Sansamp type pedal
Post by: whitebread47 on April 07, 2013, 02:38:23 AM
You may have already seen this, but this is the closest thing I know of to something designed with that use in mind.

http://tonepad.com/getFile.asp?id=112
Title: Re: Need direction on Sansamp type pedal
Post by: Jabulani Jonny on April 07, 2013, 02:41:01 AM
Thanks Whitebread. I wasn't sure where to find it. RunOffGroove's Azabache also looks very interesting, but looks like they still plan on it being followed by an amp.
Title: Re: Need direction on Sansamp type pedal
Post by: oldhousescott on April 07, 2013, 02:46:18 AM
If you want to keep it on the cheap, check out the Joyo knock-offs of the Tech21 stuff. They have an AC-Tone pedal for the Vox-like tones, and an American pedal for the Fender-ish stuff. About $40-50 each.
Title: Re: Need direction on Sansamp type pedal
Post by: whitebread47 on April 07, 2013, 02:57:48 AM
Quote from: oldhousescott on April 07, 2013, 02:46:18 AM
If you want to keep it on the cheap, check out the Joyo knock-offs of the Tech21 stuff. They have an AC-Tone pedal for the Vox-like tones, and an American pedal for the Fender-ish stuff. About $40-50 each.

Whoa.  Hadn't seen these, but that's an insane price for 'em. 
Title: Re: Need direction on Sansamp type pedal
Post by: Jabulani Jonny on April 10, 2013, 02:05:40 AM
Dude, I have to say I'm really impressed by what I'm seeing on that Joyo American Sound pedal.  That's exactly what I was looking for.  I would like to build one that suits my needs, but the closest project I can find is the ROG Azabache, but it doesn't have much in the way of tone shaping.  I'll probably spring for this Joyo.  Looks like it'll fit the bill nicely. 

Thanks!!
Title: Re: Need direction on Sansamp type pedal
Post by: billstein on April 10, 2013, 02:19:38 AM
Behringer is making a clone of the Sansamp GT-2 that is cheap and is getting great reviews. I'm thinking of getting one to play straight through the board.
Title: Re: Need direction on Sansamp type pedal
Post by: billstein on April 10, 2013, 02:23:55 AM
Here it is. Looks like a lot of pedal for 40 bucks.
www.zzounds.com/item--BEHGDI21
Title: Re: Need direction on Sansamp type pedal
Post by: jkokura on April 10, 2013, 02:33:48 AM
Except that it has a plastic housing with inferior parts...

Getting a used Sansamp is a better choice for a gigging musician.

Jacob
Title: Re: Need direction on Sansamp type pedal
Post by: Jabulani Jonny on April 10, 2013, 02:40:41 AM
The guts of the Joyo look to use nearly the same components as what I'm ordering from Small Bear or Mammoth. 
Title: Re: Need direction on Sansamp type pedal
Post by: whitebread47 on April 10, 2013, 03:13:00 AM
I wouldn't do the Behringer, personally.  They use some terribly feeble plastic on the pedals I've played.  Sad too, as I actually really dug their Ultimate Vibrato (probably a VB-2 clone).

That Joyo, on the other hand, is probably cheaper than or about right on par what it would cost to build.
Title: Re: Need direction on Sansamp type pedal
Post by: jimilee on April 10, 2013, 03:20:15 AM
Quote from: whitebread47 on April 10, 2013, 03:13:00 AM
I wouldn't do the Behringer, personally.  They use some terribly feeble plastic on the pedals I've played.  Sad too, as I actually really dug their Ultimate Vibrato (probably a VB-2 clone).

That Joyo, on the other hand, is probably cheaper than or about right on par what it would cost to build.
rehouse the behringer....badum tis! *rimshot*
Title: Re: Need direction on Sansamp type pedal
Post by: billstein on April 10, 2013, 03:44:07 AM
Quote from: jkokura on April 10, 2013, 02:33:48 AM
Except that it has a plastic housing with inferior parts...

Getting a used Sansamp is a better choice for a gigging musician.

Jacob

That's a good point. Probably need to consider carefully how it will be used. I'm thinking about getting one to play in church a couple times a month, therefore it won't take much of a beating. I've never liked Behringer products but after reading the user reviews on this one I might give it a try.
Title: Re: Need direction on Sansamp type pedal
Post by: whitebread47 on April 10, 2013, 04:53:43 AM
Quote from: jimilee on April 10, 2013, 03:20:15 AM
rehouse the behringer....badum tis! *rimshot*

I actually considered rehousing the ultimate vibrato I had, but once I cracked that sucker open it proved to be a guaranteed pain in the rear.  I was but a month into DIY'ing stuffs at the time, so I left well enough alone!  ;D

Still, for the $25 or so I paid for it, I've not found a pitch vibrato pedal I liked better.*


*Apologies for the slight derail, guys.  I do find comfort in the fact that the Joyo's are housed better than Behringer's pedal lines (and mucho easier to rehouse thanks to the works of one Freekish Blues).  :-\



Title: Re: Need direction on Sansamp type pedal
Post by: Thomas_H on April 10, 2013, 06:30:55 AM
I once built the sansamp gt 2 clone frome tonepad.
Be aware that this represents what could be done a few years ago. If does produce good sounds to use if you play it into a PA but buying one of the cheap JoYo clones of the more recent pedals from tech 21 should be the better choice.
Title: Re: Need direction on Sansamp type pedal
Post by: hoodoo on April 10, 2013, 07:25:48 AM
If you really have to build the pedal, this is no good to you, but i've got one, and it sounds ok for what it is and they are cheap now in OZ so i'm sure they will be really cheap second hand in the US. Line 6 POD. It'll give you your fender cleans as well as various other sounds. All the best, Matt.
Title: Re: Need direction on Sansamp type pedal
Post by: jimilee on April 11, 2013, 03:47:08 AM
My thoughts are,you are only going to sound as good as the pedal you put between you and the P.A. if you go cheap,you'll sound cheap. I bought a bassbone on ebay to go from my pedals to the P.A. and also an amp also in parallel if I need to be able to monitor myself. Just a thought. I'd probably go with your pedals you have now and into a direct box,something along those lines.When you go cheap,you start running into grounding and 60hz hum issues. Are you playing for money?
Title: Re: Need direction on Sansamp type pedal
Post by: culturejam on April 11, 2013, 03:57:12 AM
The Tech21 "character series" pedals are supposed to be awesome for direct-to-board application. There are some schematics for those on FSB.
Title: Re: Need direction on Sansamp type pedal
Post by: Jabulani Jonny on April 11, 2013, 11:45:09 AM
Thanks guys.  I actually ordered up a Joyo American Sound, which is a clone of the Tech 21 Blonde.   It's about the price of what I could build a pedal for and I was very impressed with the many demos I checked out.  I'll post a sound clip to this thread once I get it.