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Title: basic PCB question
Post by: youngstownguitar on January 08, 2011, 03:36:44 AM
I have a couple madbean PCBs here.  A zombii V.4 and slambox V.3.  The PCBs are just black on one side while the other side has writing.
Does it matter which side gets soldered?  I have looked at other builds here and it seems that all of them have the components on the writing side and the solder on the black side- but I would Like to do it backwards.  Would this work or is there a rule?

Thanks!
Title: Re: basic PCB question
Post by: rowland1 on January 08, 2011, 04:01:41 AM
Hey. I checked my slambox and I have components on the black side with soldering done on the side with the traces. If you add your components on the side with the copper traces (where the writing is also) you would have to solder on that side too. You'd also have to reverse the pins on any transistors as those would now be backwards.

Anyway - hope I didn't misunderstand the question - hope that helped.
Title: Re: basic PCB question
Post by: youngstownguitar on January 08, 2011, 05:00:06 AM
Great

So I will put the components on the black side and the solder on the traced side.  

I wont reverse any transistors or pots or anything then- right?
Title: Re: basic PCB question
Post by: stecykmi on January 08, 2011, 06:16:27 AM
it's assumed that the solder side is "down". that makes it much easier to solder because no components are in your way.
Title: Re: basic PCB question
Post by: youngstownguitar on January 08, 2011, 05:16:44 PM
Ok I guess my real question is:  Are the layouts and PCBs intended for the solder on the black side or on the written side?  I just dont want to accidentally do it backwards and have all my transistors and pots reversed.
Title: Re: basic PCB question
Post by: jkokura on January 08, 2011, 05:29:59 PM
I'm not sure what you mean by written side. Can you post some pictures for us?

Jacob
Title: Re: basic PCB question
Post by: youngstownguitar on January 08, 2011, 06:49:08 PM
Sure. 

(http://i640.photobucket.com/albums/uu130/surgerymixer/P1010978.jpg)

On the left is the zombii with the written side up- what is the actual term for this? The etched side?
On the left is the slambox with the written side down.

I am concerned because as you see the pots I have are board mounted.  If I wire everything on the wrong side they will all be backwards right?  I think the pots and the components should be on the black side and the solder on the etched side- am I right?
Title: Re: basic PCB question
Post by: rowland1 on January 08, 2011, 06:55:19 PM
You are correct. You have to solder on the side with the traces, so components go one the other side. Now fire up your iron and get to work.  ;)
Title: Re: basic PCB question
Post by: rowland1 on January 08, 2011, 06:56:30 PM
Sorry - Traces = writing = etched side.
Title: Re: basic PCB question
Post by: youngstownguitar on January 08, 2011, 06:57:17 PM
Thanks a lot.  Sorry for the stupid question.  I just would have hated to have wired everything backwards
Title: Re: basic PCB question
Post by: jkokura on January 08, 2011, 09:38:05 PM
You wouldn't have been able to make it work the other way. The solder adheres the part's lead and the copper together. On the black side, there's no copper, so the parts would not adhere together at all. The way the pots are in now are correct.

If you need more help, feel free to ask!

jacob
Title: Re: basic PCB question
Post by: Myramyd on January 08, 2011, 10:35:39 PM
Also remember that you have to look at the layout of the components in the layout PDF "backwards"--in other words, the copper (soldering) side of the PCB is backwards from the component side. I always have to triple check to make sure I'm putting things in the right spot but, I haven't had any problems yet.

I'm sure you will get it but, just in case.  :P

J

Title: Re: basic PCB question
Post by: madbean on January 08, 2011, 11:30:53 PM
Just to clarify: the layout image in  the documents shows the topside where the components are placed. The traces in the picture show what's directly underneath, so if the pcb material were transparent that's exactly how it would look. So, when you flip the board over and are looking at the trace side, it is flipped backwards from the layout image.
Title: Re: basic PCB question
Post by: youngstownguitar on January 09, 2011, 04:38:11 AM
great

now i can solder with confidence

thanks