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Title: Wampler Pinnacle
Post by: billstein on February 17, 2014, 04:58:58 PM
Wampler Pinnacle built on vero. Still trying to get the hang of keeping the offboard wiring neat. Really nice sounding pedal.

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/BillyBoy837/Wampler%20Pinnacle/PinnacleFaceplate_zps9c0da462.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/BillyBoy837/media/Wampler%20Pinnacle/PinnacleFaceplate_zps9c0da462.jpg.html)

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/BillyBoy837/Wampler%20Pinnacle/Face_zpsb20173d6.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/BillyBoy837/media/Wampler%20Pinnacle/Face_zpsb20173d6.jpg.html)

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/BillyBoy837/Wampler%20Pinnacle/Bottom_zps72154550.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/BillyBoy837/media/Wampler%20Pinnacle/Bottom_zps72154550.jpg.html)

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/BillyBoy837/Wampler%20Pinnacle/LeftSide_zps176a309b.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/BillyBoy837/media/Wampler%20Pinnacle/LeftSide_zps176a309b.jpg.html)

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/BillyBoy837/Wampler%20Pinnacle/Gutshot_zps2551446c.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/BillyBoy837/media/Wampler%20Pinnacle/Gutshot_zps2551446c.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Wampler Pinnacle
Post by: Rockhorst on February 17, 2014, 06:12:30 PM
Quote from: billstein on February 17, 2014, 04:58:58 PM
Wampler Pinnacle built on vero. Still trying to get the hang of keeping the offboard wiring neat.
Screw the insides! That is one gorgeous pedal on the outside! Totally jealous of that faceplate! Care to share your technique?
Title: Re: Wampler Pinnacle
Post by: PhiloB on February 17, 2014, 06:16:24 PM
I agree! The faceplate is top notch.  Is it laser etched?
Title: Re: Wampler Pinnacle
Post by: Jabulani Jonny on February 17, 2014, 07:56:04 PM
Dude that faceplate is freakin' sweet.  Oh, and great idea on sticking the tagboard instructions directly to the Vero.  I like it!
Title: Re: Wampler Pinnacle
Post by: billstein on February 17, 2014, 08:08:29 PM
Thanks guys for the kind words. I'll work up a detailed post about how I've been doing the faceplates. Right now I'm a bit rushed. My son just came home and I want to spend time with him. Priorities!

As far as the tagboard instructions on the vero. That changed my life. :) I copy and paste it into illustrator and shrink it down to the correct size and it takes all the confusion away. Vero suddenly became simple, except of course for the off board wiring. That is still of the devil.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Wampler Pinnacle
Post by: PhiloB on February 17, 2014, 08:36:23 PM
Can you give us a heads up on this thread when you do?  Beautiful work.
Title: Re: Wampler Pinnacle
Post by: bcalla on February 17, 2014, 08:45:20 PM
Love the faceplate.  Can't wait to hear how you did it.
Title: Re: Wampler Pinnacle
Post by: pryde on February 17, 2014, 08:56:41 PM
Awesome job! Lots of pretty colors to look at outside and in.

Love the faceplate and looking forward to your write-up

Title: Re: Wampler Pinnacle
Post by: hoodoo on February 17, 2014, 09:10:02 PM
Another cracker Bill, you must be smarter than the average bear ;) That's the first time i've seen the vero template used like that, great idea.
Title: Re: Wampler Pinnacle
Post by: Guybrush on February 18, 2014, 03:12:19 AM
Wow. Great work. I'm another fan of the face plate. Been wanting to finish my builds with a face plate for ages. Hopefully I'll be able to reproduce your method!

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Title: Re: Wampler Pinnacle
Post by: Cortexturizer on February 18, 2014, 04:51:00 AM
super super super super jealous of that faceplate! share your technique or face the angry mob :D
Title: Re: Wampler Pinnacle
Post by: blearyeyes on February 18, 2014, 03:37:50 PM
Really smart idea with the Vero layout.
Wouldn't have thought of that in a million years..

Faceplate!  Faceplate!  Faceplate! How did you do that?
Title: Re: Wampler Pinnacle
Post by: Clayford on February 18, 2014, 05:52:31 PM
Quote from: billstein on January 28, 2014, 09:42:02 PM
Not sure if this should go in the Build Reports or not.

Been playing with different ways to do Face plates. I like this so I thought I'd share.

I used magazine paper onto black FR4 but what sets this one apart for me is the two tone....

He did share this info before, not sure if it's enough to whet your appetites or not? Perhaps it will sate folks until he makes a more detailed report?
Title: Re: Wampler Pinnacle
Post by: rullywowr on February 18, 2014, 07:08:52 PM
I'm 99.9% sure its simply black FR4 etched.  Then you mask off the copper you want to keep and apply MG Chemicals "Liquid Tin" for the silver color.  Finally, clear coat it and voila!  There ya have it. 

Bill's face place looks great!  Nice job.
Title: Re: Wampler Pinnacle
Post by: Clayford on February 18, 2014, 07:19:02 PM
Quote from: rullywowr on February 18, 2014, 07:08:52 PM
I'm 99.9% sure its simply black FR4 etched.  Then you mask off the copper you want to keep and apply MG Chemicals "Liquid Tin" for the silver color.  Finally, clear coat it and voila!  There ya have it. 

Bill's face place looks great!  Nice job.

That's exactly what I got from it! But lets wait for for Bill to chime in.
Title: Re: Wampler Pinnacle
Post by: billstein on February 18, 2014, 11:25:41 PM
Quote from: rullywowr on February 18, 2014, 07:08:52 PM
I'm 99.9% sure its simply black FR4 etched.  Then you mask off the copper you want to keep and apply MG Chemicals "Liquid Tin" for the silver color.  Finally, clear coat it and voila!  There ya have it. 

Bill's face place looks great!  Nice job.

Thanks everyone for the encouraging words and I apologize for not getting back sooner. My day started at 6;30 this morning and I'm just getting back now after 11:00 and I still have to do some work before I go to bed to prepare for a 6;30 am meeting tomorrow morning.

I'll get around on answering the questions for both the Pinnacle and Paisley build as soon as I can (probably Thursday). The quote here is right, it is simply FR4 and "Liquid tin" with the areas masked off that I want to remain copper.

Hopefully in a few weeks I'll get around to building again and try to produce a pictorial. That would be a lot easier than trying to type out an explanation. Plus, it would be really nice to give something back to the community.

Thanks again for the encouraging words. I appreciate it. Now off to preparing for tomorrow.

Here is a link to the Paisley build which takes this technique a bit further.
http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=13984.0
Title: Re: Wampler Pinnacle
Post by: Guybrush on February 20, 2014, 12:23:56 AM
It looks really good. Thanks for the info. Definitely going to give it a try.

Any UK Madbeaners know of anywhere on our small isle that stocks coloured FR4? Ebay only comes up with US stockists.

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Title: Re: Wampler Pinnacle
Post by: muddyfox on February 20, 2014, 12:37:34 AM

Please share if you do find a source, I found one in Switzerland but it costs about the same as abcfab on ebay. Also found one in Germany (?) but they obviously don't respond to email.
Title: Re: Wampler Pinnacle
Post by: billstein on February 20, 2014, 09:40:15 PM
Quote from: muddyfox on February 20, 2014, 12:37:34 AM

Please share if you do find a source, I found one in Switzerland but it costs about the same as abcfab on ebay. Also found one in Germany (?) but they obviously don't respond to email.

Maybe you could get a groupbuy on some of the FR-4 from abcfab. You should contact him, he's very helpful and quick to respond. See if he could discount a volume buy enough to make it worth the shipping etc. I may be way off base here but it might be worth a quick email to see if it is a possibility.
If you do this make sure you're talking about the 1 oz copper FR-4. My first order I purchased 2 oz and it takes forever to etch.
Title: Re: Wampler Pinnacle
Post by: add4 on March 16, 2015, 06:59:39 AM
Did you finally come up with a pictorial on how to make these faceplates?

still interested :)


Quote from: billstein on February 17, 2014, 04:58:58 PM
Wampler Pinnacle built on vero. Still trying to get the hang of keeping the offboard wiring neat. Really nice sounding pedal.

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/BillyBoy837/Wampler%20Pinnacle/PinnacleFaceplate_zps9c0da462.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/BillyBoy837/media/Wampler%20Pinnacle/PinnacleFaceplate_zps9c0da462.jpg.html)

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/BillyBoy837/Wampler%20Pinnacle/Face_zpsb20173d6.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/BillyBoy837/media/Wampler%20Pinnacle/Face_zpsb20173d6.jpg.html)

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/BillyBoy837/Wampler%20Pinnacle/Bottom_zps72154550.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/BillyBoy837/media/Wampler%20Pinnacle/Bottom_zps72154550.jpg.html)

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/BillyBoy837/Wampler%20Pinnacle/LeftSide_zps176a309b.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/BillyBoy837/media/Wampler%20Pinnacle/LeftSide_zps176a309b.jpg.html)

(http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y463/BillyBoy837/Wampler%20Pinnacle/Gutshot_zps2551446c.jpg) (http://s1276.photobucket.com/user/BillyBoy837/media/Wampler%20Pinnacle/Gutshot_zps2551446c.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Wampler Pinnacle
Post by: diablochris6 on March 16, 2015, 10:40:54 AM
Great job! As everyone says, that faceplate is killer. I really enjoy this circuit. I designed a PCB of it with the boost switch on a toggle. Such a wide range of killer tones!
Title: Re: Wampler Pinnacle
Post by: flanagan0718 on March 16, 2015, 10:51:42 AM
GOOD LORD! This is a beauty! I agree with add4. A pictorial would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Wampler Pinnacle
Post by: billstein on March 16, 2015, 05:10:02 PM
Quote from: flanagan0718 on March 16, 2015, 10:51:42 AM
GOOD LORD! This is a beauty! I agree with add4. A pictorial would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks guys. I did a sizing tutorial here.
http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=14599.msg136305#msg136305

I'm starting to work on some tips on the actual artwork tonight.
Title: Re: Wampler Pinnacle
Post by: nzCdog on March 16, 2015, 05:15:52 PM
woah this is slick!  can't believe I missied this build earier, wd 8)
Title: Re: Wampler Pinnacle
Post by: Strassercaster on March 16, 2015, 06:06:41 PM
Quote from: billstein on February 17, 2014, 08:08:29 PM
Thanks guys for the kind words. I'll work up a detailed post about how I've been doing the faceplates. Right now I'm a bit rushed. My son just came home and I want to spend time with him. Priorities!

As far as the tagboard instructions on the vero. That changed my life. :) I copy and paste it into illustrator and shrink it down to the correct size and it takes all the confusion away. Vero suddenly became simple, except of course for the off board wiring. That is still of the devil.

Thanks again.
Ha ha irst off Fantastic job. Greaty idea for the vero as well. The offboard wiring takes me 2-3 hours on every pedal when doing vero. I try to go faster and it always seems to take longer than cutting drilling and populating the vero. Is it just me??? I do use 9v adapter and run shielded wire on inputs and outputs on all my pedals but man its a time eater that is for sure.
Title: Re: Wampler Pinnacle
Post by: billstein on March 16, 2015, 08:57:18 PM
Just put up a tutorial on doing faceplates like this.

http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=20380.msg198891#msg198891