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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: peAk on March 04, 2014, 06:44:46 AM

Title: Belton...and reverb pedals in general.
Post by: peAk on March 04, 2014, 06:44:46 AM
So I built a BYOC reverb that used the Belton BTDR-2H. I am about to start a Rub-a-Dub that uses the Belton as well.

Just curious what other, if any, reverb PCBs are out there and if they all use the Belton.

Title: Re: Belton...and reverb pedals in general.
Post by: micromegas on March 04, 2014, 06:48:59 AM
GrindCustoms Tenebrion is another one
Title: Re: Belton...and reverb pedals in general.
Post by: GermanCdn on March 04, 2014, 07:19:54 AM
ThomasH has a nice reverb project as well.
Title: Re: Belton...and reverb pedals in general.
Post by: stevie1556 on March 04, 2014, 07:25:10 AM
CJs Box of Hall uses one as well. I love my Rub-A-Dub though.

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Title: Re: Belton...and reverb pedals in general.
Post by: juansolo on March 04, 2014, 07:49:30 AM
For me a Rub-a-Dub with a short brick and a Tenebrion with a medium are things of perfection.
Title: Re: Belton...and reverb pedals in general.
Post by: midwayfair on March 04, 2014, 07:54:30 AM
No PCB for it yet, but if you really want something different, ICE-9 and Slacker over on DIYSB finished his FV-1 project recently:

http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=104291.0
Title: Re: Belton...and reverb pedals in general.
Post by: peAk on March 04, 2014, 08:14:10 AM
Ok, just ordered the Tenebrion.....
Title: Re: Belton...and reverb pedals in general.
Post by: raulduke on March 04, 2014, 08:24:53 AM
The other option is to wait for some DIY projects for the new Belton Brick that has been released.

This incorporates variable decay so will be a lot more useful for pedal based 'verbs.
Title: Re: Belton...and reverb pedals in general.
Post by: raulduke on March 04, 2014, 08:41:53 AM
No PCB for it yet, but if you really want something different, ICE-9 and Slacker over on DIYSB finished his FV-1 project recently:

http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=104291.0

Holy Sh*t.

An FV1 DIYer friendly development package  8)

This looks awesome Jon, thanks for the link!

Just discovered the SpinCAD designer program too. Almost Reaktor like modular approach (no nasty assembler code)!
Title: Re: Belton...and reverb pedals in general.
Post by: jubal81 on March 04, 2014, 10:41:16 AM
If you want to go analog, I can recommend the Surfy Bear FET reverb.
http://surfybear.weebly.com/new-pcb-and-kit.html
Title: Re: Belton...and reverb pedals in general.
Post by: GrindCustoms on March 04, 2014, 12:31:45 PM
Ok, just ordered the Tenebrion.....

Thanks, for trying out our circuit.

As for the new Belton, nothing as been confirmed yet of when it's going in production, i've been waiting for it to release our new TenebrionII layout...

I have put together a new layout using the BTDR-2H for my production stuff but have decided to convert it to a DIY project.

CJ and I are currently working out the last details of this new release. Stay Tuned! ;)

Rej
Title: Re: Belton...and reverb pedals in general.
Post by: micromegas on March 04, 2014, 12:34:42 PM

I have put together a new layout using the BTDR-2H for my production stuff but have decided to convert it to a DIY project.

CJ and I are currently working out the last details of this new release. Stay Tuned! ;)

Rej
Those are good news!
Title: Re: Belton...and reverb pedals in general.
Post by: mattlee0037 on March 04, 2014, 12:45:39 PM

Ok, just ordered the Tenebrion.....

Thanks, for trying out our circuit.

As for the new Belton, nothing as been confirmed yet of when it's going in production, i've been waiting for it to release our new TenebrionII layout...

I have put together a new layout using the BTDR-2H for my production stuff but have decided to convert it to a DIY project.

CJ and I are currently working out the last details of this new release. Stay Tuned! ;)

Rej

Now I HAVE to buy another!


Title: Re: Belton...and reverb pedals in general.
Post by: peAk on March 04, 2014, 12:53:10 PM
Ok, just ordered the Tenebrion.....

Thanks, for trying out our circuit.

As for the new Belton, nothing as been confirmed yet of when it's going in production, i've been waiting for it to release our new TenebrionII layout...

I have put together a new layout using the BTDR-2H for my production stuff but have decided to convert it to a DIY project.

CJ and I are currently working out the last details of this new release. Stay Tuned! ;)

Rej

Cool, excited to check it out. Again, have only built the BYOC reverb so not sure how these reverbs will differ.

I know Juan mentioned he had a medium Belton in there but I am thinking about a using a long. Thoughts?

My only disappointment with the BYOC is that I had hoped for a longer, dreamier reverb. The BYOC is more of a slap-back. I do like it though.

Title: Re: Belton...and reverb pedals in general.
Post by: GrindCustoms on March 04, 2014, 12:59:52 PM
I have'nt looked at the schematic of BYOC's reverb, but with the philosophy they sure wanted to emulate the fender in a box type of sound or the other classic verb tones in a simple package. It's probably able to give you longer źdreamer╗ reverb sounds, but you would need to modify the mixing stage of wet and dry signal because that is where it all happens with these circuits.

For my part, i mostly use the Medium Brick aswell, built couple one with the Long... i think the main matter about these is the inherant modulation that you will hear in the reverb źdwelling╗...

IIRC LaceSensor did a nice mod thread about the Tenebrion in the Mod section of this forum where i've also chimed in.... once you have the pcb layout in hand wich i'm heading at the post office today and make your mind on how you want to tackle it.... feel free to PM me or send me an email for more info or idea you have and want to know if they are possible... I've probably built over 10 variants from that core circuit.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Belton...and reverb pedals in general.
Post by: peAk on March 04, 2014, 01:16:21 PM
I have'nt looked at the schematic of BYOC's reverb, but with the philosophy they sure wanted to emulate the fender in a box type of sound or the other classic verb tones in a simple package. It's probably able to give you longer źdreamer╗ reverb sounds, but you would need to modify the mixing stage of wet and dry signal because that is where it all happens with these circuits.

For my part, i mostly use the Medium Brick aswell, built couple one with the Long... i think the main matter about these is the inherant modulation that you will hear in the reverb źdwelling╗...

IIRC LaceSensor did a nice mod thread about the Tenebrion in the Mod section of this forum where i've also chimed in.... once you have the pcb layout in hand wich i'm heading at the post office today and make your mind on how you want to tackle it.... feel free to PM me or send me an email for more info or idea you have and want to know if they are possible... I've probably built over 10 variants from that core circuit.

Cheers!

Awesome, thanks!
Title: Re: Belton...and reverb pedals in general.
Post by: alanp on March 04, 2014, 10:21:51 PM
I've built the Rub-A-Dub, the Tenebrion, and DeadAstronaut's Chasm. I prefer the Tenebrion, quite strongly, then the Chasm for it's mucking-around value, then the Rub-a-dub (which is still in and of itself a very strong contender.)
Title: Re: Belton...and reverb pedals in general.
Post by: raulduke on March 05, 2014, 10:44:27 AM
The new Belton Brick is available to buy from Tube Amp Doctor for those who are interested.

Me... I'm hoping for good ol' Rej to initiate some kind of mega group buy like last time (which was awesome of him).
Title: Re: Belton...and reverb pedals in general.
Post by: GrindCustoms on March 05, 2014, 12:29:56 PM
No kidding! That's badass, going to check it out when i come back from work
Title: Re: Belton...and reverb pedals in general.
Post by: dondougie on March 05, 2014, 01:19:57 PM
I have the Hermida/GGG verb which has a more or less convincing spring sound, more so than the others I've built (EQD Ghost Echo, Rub-A-Dub).

Do you guys have any other suggestions for a Belton-based spring sounding verb? I'm starting to think that the FV-1 is the way to go for an authentic emulation, but I don't feel comfortable soldering that thing yet ;D
Title: Re: Belton...and reverb pedals in general.
Post by: Jabulani Jonny on March 05, 2014, 01:53:53 PM
Major 2nd's for the Tenebrion.  I think I remember putting the medium brick in mine.  It is ALWAYS ON.  Seriously.  I could have saved a foot switch on that build.   ;D

Fantastic sounding verb. 
Title: Re: Belton...and reverb pedals in general.
Post by: GrindCustoms on March 06, 2014, 07:39:39 PM
The new Belton Brick is available to buy from Tube Amp Doctor for those who are interested.

Me... I'm hoping for good ol' Rej to initiate some kind of mega group buy like last time (which was awesome of him).

Thanks for the kind word Steve :)

If i can find a place in US that have them in stock, i would have no problem doing this again.... and accompaigned with a new Reverb layout of course... all that work must serve something ;)

I'm ordering 2 from TAD... so i can get the proto TenebrionII up to this new setup, but Ssshheeeeeshhh it's a painful purchase.
Title: Re: Belton...and reverb pedals in general.
Post by: GrindCustoms on March 06, 2014, 07:44:42 PM
D'oh! They are backordered... got the notification after checkout..... :-\
Title: Re: Belton...and reverb pedals in general.
Post by: Beedoola on March 06, 2014, 10:05:19 PM
I built a Wampler Faux Reverb clone and I love it. Probably my favorite Belton. I built the BYOC reverb 2, as well as the "All Star Reverb" - guy over at FS.org's mashup of some different reverb circuits. I didn't like the light modulation that is supposedly inherent in the Belton's design. The Wampler seems to not have that.

You can find the schematic over on FS.org
Title: Re: Belton...and reverb pedals in general.
Post by: raulduke on March 07, 2014, 04:07:50 AM
D'oh! They are backordered... got the notification after checkout..... :-\

The b*stards  ;D

A group buy for the Modules (maybe along with the new PCB's?) would be great Rej.