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Projects => General Questions => Requests => Topic started by: juansolo on April 08, 2011, 10:18:37 AM

Title: Smaller Dipthonizer
Post by: juansolo on April 08, 2011, 10:18:37 AM
I've just built one of these using the board from the DIY Stompboxes thread. It is an epic, utterly brilliant effect (search for the demo's on YT). But the board, which I suspect is vintage correct (there are also a couple of mistakes on it...), makes boxing it up a absolute pain in the butt. Mainly down to the size of the thing meaning it needs a MASSIVE box and that all the pots/sockets are board mount. This circuit shrunk down to a sunking sized board, with an integrated charge pump, would be awesome, if possible.
Title: Re: Smaller Dipthonizer
Post by: madbean on April 08, 2011, 11:45:46 AM
Yep, I've been wanting to do this one for a while. I'll make it happen, but it won't be for a few weeks.
Title: Re: Smaller Dipthonizer
Post by: juansolo on April 08, 2011, 03:48:21 PM
Awesome. Just need to decal my mossive one up and that'll be done. Would love to make a smaller one at some point.
Title: Re: Smaller Dipthonizer
Post by: dbharris on April 10, 2011, 05:15:06 PM
+1 I have been wanting to build this one for a while.  It's first on my to do list once I finish all the projects currently on my bench...
Title: Re: Smaller Dipthonizer
Post by: Mark_McQ on April 10, 2011, 09:05:53 PM
+1,000,000

Just checked out the original on Youtube and it sounds awesome. Me want.
Would be cool if there was a way to control the modulation with a pedal.
Title: Re: Smaller Dipthonizer
Post by: madbean on April 11, 2011, 03:04:48 PM
This thing is going to be badass. I'm happy with the progress I've already made :)
Title: Re: Smaller Dipthonizer
Post by: sgmezei on April 11, 2011, 06:25:54 PM
+1

I would take a PCB for sure.
Title: Re: Smaller Dipthonizer
Post by: madbean on April 11, 2011, 06:54:18 PM
I'm thinking a 125B size is likely.
Title: Re: Smaller Dipthonizer
Post by: bigmufffuzzwizz on April 11, 2011, 10:22:44 PM
Whoa that is a wild effect. I believe when I bought my BYOC DOD 440 clone I was looking for something more like this colorsound dipthonizer, cause I wasn't very pleased with the BYOC kit.
One more great project offered by the Bean! Nice!
Title: Re: Smaller Dipthonizer
Post by: madbean on April 13, 2011, 12:39:00 AM
I have some final checking to do on the schematic. If everything is good, I will submit this for a prototype this week. This one will go straight to a manufactured board. Looks like the 125B size is doable!

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Title: Re: Smaller Dipthonizer
Post by: bigmufffuzzwizz on April 13, 2011, 12:46:41 AM
whoa!! that was quick.  ;D
Title: Re: Smaller Dipthonizer
Post by: dbharris on April 13, 2011, 01:27:09 AM
Awesome, thanks madbean!  So it looks like you will need a separate road rage board to go along with this board right?
Title: Re: Smaller Dipthonizer
Post by: madbean on April 13, 2011, 02:59:14 AM
I decided against a charge pump in interest of conserving space. Not knowing the current draw, it might require more juice than the MAX1044 can provide. So, an LT1054 may be in order. I'll know more in a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Smaller Dipthonizer
Post by: juansolo on April 13, 2011, 06:33:17 AM
Wow! That's awesome bean!
Title: Re: Smaller Dipthonizer
Post by: JeffdaMaori on April 13, 2011, 08:56:01 AM
Very wicked! I'm sure pumped for this one too....!

Cheers!
Title: Re: Smaller Dipthonizer
Post by: dbharris on April 13, 2011, 08:53:24 PM
Ok awesome, I need to remember to grab some of those LT1054s on my next order.
Title: Re: Smaller Dipthonizer
Post by: dbharris on May 11, 2011, 07:53:49 PM
Hey Brian,

I know you've been super busy lately.  I was wondering if there was any progress on this project?  Even an official BOM for your board would be awesome.  I'm waiting on placing a small bear order for whatever I need but don't have for a dipthonizer and a forumvibe.

Thanks!

Dan
Title: Re: Smaller Dipthonizer
Post by: madbean on May 11, 2011, 10:35:25 PM
Actually, the prototype has been built, but there is a problem with it. I have not had time to track it down yet. I only finished it a couple of days ago and I'm in the process of reviewing my schematic re-draw to check for errors.

I can post the BOM here tomorrow.
Title: Re: Smaller Dipthonizer
Post by: dbharris on May 11, 2011, 11:21:00 PM
OK thanks so much!  Sorry to hear you had some problems with the prototype.  Juansolo mentioned in the OP and I've also heard a few guys on BYOC say that the original layout has some errors.  That's why I stayed away from building this at first.  So if the schemo looks correct maybe looking at the thread on BYOC will help a little.  Good luck!
Title: Re: Smaller Dipthonizer
Post by: juansolo on May 12, 2011, 08:25:50 AM
Quote from: dbharris on May 11, 2011, 11:21:00 PM
OK thanks so much!  Sorry to hear you had some problems with the prototype.  Juansolo mentioned in the OP and I've also heard a few guys on BYOC say that the original layout has some errors.  That's why I stayed away from building this at first.  So if the schemo looks correct maybe looking at the thread on BYOC will help a little.  Good luck!

With mine there was a ground that wasn't connected where it should have been, and it needed a link on one of the board mounted sockets as the ones I sourced were the opposite way around to the ones the board was done for. Otherwise it was pretty much as the layout on the thread.

The biggest problems after that were making it fit in the enclosure with the through board pots (which were a little short, I'd do it different next time) and the fact that the sockets and 4 pos switch are backwards if you do it that way.
Title: Re: Smaller Dipthonizer
Post by: madbean on May 12, 2011, 08:25:38 PM

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Title: Re: Smaller Dipthonizer
Post by: dbharris on May 12, 2011, 08:29:21 PM
Thanks Brian!
Title: Re: Smaller Dipthonizer
Post by: juansolo on May 13, 2011, 08:20:54 AM
If anyone needs a UK source of genuine 3080Es, I got mine from Bowood Electronic (http://www.bowood-electronics.co.uk/product_info.php/ca3080e-p-196). Comes in at £5.50 for two inc delivery.