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Title: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on June 29, 2014, 10:51:02 PM
Gonna make the write up short and sweet as this is my second attempt. The first one was long and pretentious and I just didn't want to post it.
These are my latest addiction. Lovetone FULL-SIZED clones in 1590D enclosures. All of them have full functionality and they all have Black PCB etched faceplates that were liquid tinned.
Some shout outs to my peeps that helped me through...
#1 Ian (LaceSensor) without whom none of this would happened. Inspiration and several emails later (I swear he knows exactly where the problems are) and I have some AWESOME Lovetone pedals!
#2 Jim (electricstorm) without whom the ??Flanger wouldn't have happened. Jim, along with Alanp and myself were involved with the ??Flanger re-birth. Most of the work was done by Jim. I hope things are better for you brother!
#3 Ben (rullywowr) who provided me with 2 of these PCBs etched as part of a trade. Spectacular work my friend!
#4 Juansolo who assisted me with the Doppelganger build document.

Cheers to you all..... And on to THE SHOW!!!

First up... The ??Flanger
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n541/redmangreg/FlangerFace_zpsafb0842c.jpg)
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n541/redmangreg/FlangerInside_zps2beb13ab.jpg)
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n541/redmangreg/FlangerJacks_zps4e7339db.jpg)

Next.... The DoppelGanger
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n541/redmangreg/DoppelgangerFace_zpsd0329b51.jpg)
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n541/redmangreg/DoppelgangerInside_zps645d2205.jpg)
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n541/redmangreg/DoppelgangerJacks_zps2a34c32b.jpg)

Finally.... The Meatball
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n541/redmangreg/MeatballFace_zps27c4d7b8.jpg)
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n541/redmangreg/MeatballInside_zpsef157856.jpg)
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n541/redmangreg/MeatballJacks_zps4093b3b0.jpg)

And Finally.... The Group Shot
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n541/redmangreg/Group_zps37735917.jpg)

I am currently in work on the Wobulator and the RingStinger. As soon as I get them ALL out and completed... I will be more than happy to share with those brave souls who would attempt the builds!

Cheers  ;)
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: bcalla on June 29, 2014, 11:08:51 PM
These are all waaay over the top!!!  Amazing builds.
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: alanp on June 29, 2014, 11:18:45 PM
Seriously impressive :D
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: midwayfair on June 29, 2014, 11:19:05 PM
Awesome job, Greg. :)
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on June 29, 2014, 11:30:21 PM
Thanks guys! Very humbling words coming from all of you.

I will try to get some demos up when I get time AND when I figure out how to use my damn iPad to post on YouTube  :-[
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: LaceSensor on June 29, 2014, 11:42:36 PM
So hot. Love the nod to the original powder coat colours with the chicken heads and the faceplates are stunning.

Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on June 30, 2014, 12:01:08 AM
Quote from: LaceSensor on June 29, 2014, 11:42:36 PM
So hot. Love the nod to the original powder coat colours with the chicken heads and the faceplates are stunning.

Thanks. A lot coming from you  ;D

If you only knew how long I searched for the mini chicken head knobs to find a PINK one for the Ring Stinger!!!  ::)
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: selfdestroyer on June 30, 2014, 12:17:49 AM
Super clean builds you have there. I also love the knobs and faceplates, perfection.

Cody
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: jubal81 on June 30, 2014, 12:30:11 AM
You're gonna need a trophy case for those! Wow, what a collection. Great job.
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: CK1 on June 30, 2014, 12:52:48 AM
Insanely good
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: alanp on June 30, 2014, 12:57:10 AM
Can't wait to see how you're going to mount the Ring Stinger's daughterboard with transformers in those relatively cramped enclosures :) (I wimped out and used a 1550G, not a D!)
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on June 30, 2014, 12:58:37 AM
Quote from: alanp on June 30, 2014, 12:57:10 AM
Can't wait to see how you're going to mount the Ring Stinger's daughterboard with transformers in those relatively cramped enclosures :) (I wimped out and used a 1550G, not a D!)

Already looked into it! As long as I keep the board mounted low enough... it "should" fit  :o
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: midwayfair on June 30, 2014, 01:33:30 AM
Quote from: LaceSensor on June 29, 2014, 11:42:36 PM
Love the nod to the original powder coat colours with the chicken heads and the faceplates are stunning.

Oh, man, I didn't even notice that. That's really clever!
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Matt on June 30, 2014, 01:45:50 AM
Those are beautiful / inspiring. I'd love to build the flange one day.
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: GrindCustoms on June 30, 2014, 02:56:36 AM
Insane work Greg! :o

Truly inspiring!
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: lincolnic on June 30, 2014, 03:05:59 AM
Beautiful and inspiring work!
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: wgc on June 30, 2014, 03:27:37 AM
Lordy!  These are killer
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: LaceSensor on June 30, 2014, 10:28:19 AM
Quote from: alanp on June 30, 2014, 12:57:10 AM
Can't wait to see how you're going to mount the Ring Stinger's daughterboard with transformers in those relatively cramped enclosures :) (I wimped out and used a 1550G, not a D!)

There appears to be enough depth to mount it on the side.
Its easily done with standoffs.
(http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x374/LaceSensor1/Ringstinger%202/P1030012.jpg)
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on June 30, 2014, 11:31:10 AM
Ian,

Is that a 1590D?

Another thing is that the String Ringer PCBs are a bit smaller than the real deals.  :-\
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: LaceSensor on June 30, 2014, 12:03:35 PM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on June 30, 2014, 11:31:10 AM
Ian,

Is that a 1590D?

Another thing is that the String Ringer PCBs are a bit smaller than the real deals.  :-\

no but its 55mm deep, which your enclosures seem to be.
the point is the board should fit mounted similarly to the way shown on my builds.
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on June 30, 2014, 12:05:06 PM
Quote from: LaceSensor on June 30, 2014, 12:03:35 PM
no but its 55mm deep, which your enclosures seem to be.
the point is the board should fit mounted similarly to the way shown on my builds.

Will definitely keep that in mind!  ;)

Thanks!!
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: juansolo on June 30, 2014, 07:12:39 PM
 8) so very impressive  8)
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: mmlee on June 30, 2014, 07:14:23 PM
The little chicken knob detail makes it! So good!
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: cooder on June 30, 2014, 08:06:54 PM
Awesome and impressive to the max...! 8)
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: blearyeyes on June 30, 2014, 08:40:23 PM
Wow!

Serious Awesomeness Builds!

When I grow up I wanna build things like that!

Sheesh..

Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: chuckbuick on July 01, 2014, 02:02:19 AM
Holy wow!!!  Real beauties.
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: alanp on July 01, 2014, 02:28:21 AM
Quote from: chuckbuick on July 01, 2014, 02:02:19 AM
Holy wow!!!  Real beauties.

IIRC, PD built a MuTBall Meatball-in-a-1590A which YOU laid out? ;)

What I really like about Govt's Meatball is that he's done it on a replica of the original PCB. Actually... Greg, any chance of a photo of the component side of that one? :)
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: m-Kresol on July 01, 2014, 05:33:05 AM
Wow. This is amazing and crazy lot of wiring inside (flange). Looking forward to my builds.
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on July 01, 2014, 11:09:49 AM
Quote from: alanp on July 01, 2014, 02:28:21 AM
Greg, any chance of a photo of the component side of that one? :)

Possibly. I am having some switch popping issues with the Meatball currently and I may need to remove the "innards" to examine whether of not I reversed a lytic cap or something...  :-\

I will be putting out some pseudo build docs with trace transfers, component location diagrams, and off-board wiring diagrams for the Meatball as well as the Wobulator and Ring Stinger once I get the last two completed  ;D  8)

Im not gonna do a fancy sch-many build doc but it will be enough for anyone to build their own full-sized monster!!   ;)
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: jtn191 on July 02, 2014, 04:44:07 AM
sick!! I want to build some Lovetones some day...would be cool if there were more Lovetone/synth style designs...
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on July 26, 2014, 09:02:48 PM
The Latest addition to the family!!!

Lovetone Wobulator. Another special thanks to LaceSensor (Ian) for his assistance with this one. Used TL072s for the dual op amps and TL084 for the quad. Also used authentic OEP1200 transformers for the Outputs and Phase inverters.

Self-etched PCB and Carling DPDTs for the stomps. Had them sitting around and this was the perfect opportunity to use them!  8)

Decided to go with 30K/20M LDRs instead of the 20K/2M that are called for. Not really much of a difference when you figure in the parallel resistance but, these sound very deep and lush with all of the settings. Still need to test this out in stereo (on tonight's agenda) but the Mono is probably the BEST trem and vibe effect I have ever used! Why Lovetone stopped making effects is beyond me. THEY ARE ALL BRILLIANT!!
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n541/redmangreg/DSCN1114_zps0f68173a.jpg)
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n541/redmangreg/DSCN1113_zps717bac29.jpg)

Just have the Ring Stinger and Cheese/Source to complete now! Still working on the pseudo build docs. If I see a lot of interest, I will put out what I have now. Otherwise, I will just release it all at once when I am complete.

More to come (just waiting on the Post Office!)
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Hangingmonkey on July 26, 2014, 09:13:05 PM
Looks real nice. Great job.
Can't wait to see the build doc, I'd definitely build this
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: LaceSensor on July 26, 2014, 09:27:14 PM
the mutts nutts

glad you got it together. whats the depth like?
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on July 26, 2014, 09:37:36 PM
Quote from: LaceSensor on July 26, 2014, 09:27:14 PM
whats the depth like?

VERY wide range on the Depth. Goes from subtle bumping to THUMP!

The Rate pots are surprisingly incremented too! Usually it is pretty bunched up at certain spots on the rotation but this one is pretty even.

Wish I had a better quality amp to try the stereo mode other then my little Ruby build  :-\

Check your PMs  ;)
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: LaceSensor on July 26, 2014, 09:48:47 PM
makes me wonder if there are other inconsistencies with AlanP's Tremopanation then
With the builds I made of that PCB, the depth only seems to start around 12pm on the dials to really give any "movement" to the trem
Id be tempted to make a "full size" one so if you do concatenate your files into a build doc I would give it a whirl, and try a few LED/LDRs in this to see if anything makes a difference to the tremopanation

Shame we dont live nearby id love to do a side-by-side
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on July 26, 2014, 10:01:45 PM
Quote from: LaceSensor on July 26, 2014, 09:48:47 PM
makes me wonder if there are other inconsistencies with AlanP's Tremopanation then
With the builds I made of that PCB, the depth only seems to start around 12pm on the dials to really give any "movement" to the trem
Id be tempted to make a "full size" one so if you do concatenate your files into a build doc I would give it a whirl, and try a few LED/LDRs in this to see if anything makes a difference to the tremopanation

Shame we dont live nearby id love to do a side-by-side

I will plug in again this evening and post up some results on this. I will try to get specific on the Depth controls in my build.

I also used water clear Green LEDS (I think the Tremopanation build uses diffused)

More later!  ;)
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on July 26, 2014, 10:21:09 PM
OK. Just got done playing with the new toy!

I find that there is subtle Trem when the Depth is full CCW. There is a linear increase in Depth as I roll through 9 o'clock. It is a subtle increase but definitely an increase. It is more pronounced as I roll through 12 o'clock and up to full CW.

I would say that if you are hearing NO increase until you hit 12 o'clock then there is an issue. Or if there is no LFO at all at full CCW then there is an issue. I DEFINITELY get subtle Trem at full CCW.
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: LaceSensor on July 26, 2014, 10:32:40 PM
sounds kinda like what I get the sound just isnt the same as the real one.
im gonna try some water clear green LEDs...

Thanks for testing

Ian
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on July 26, 2014, 10:58:09 PM
Quote from: LaceSensor on July 26, 2014, 10:32:40 PM
sounds kinda like what I get the sound just isnt the same as the real one.

Are you saying that yours sounds just like mine -OR- you are not getting anything until 12 o'clock/No LFO until 12 o'clock?
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: LaceSensor on July 26, 2014, 11:07:46 PM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on July 26, 2014, 10:58:09 PM
Quote from: LaceSensor on July 26, 2014, 10:32:40 PM
sounds kinda like what I get the sound just isnt the same as the real one.

Are you saying that yours sounds just like mine -OR- you are not getting anything until 12 o'clock/No LFO until 12 o'clock?
sorry to be clear, the tremopanation do have a very mild modulation at zero depth, and it does subltly increase til 12 oclock where you get more of a trem happening. they just dont sound as deep or as good or simply as nice as the real pedal. its probably the LEDs/LDR
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on July 26, 2014, 11:35:04 PM
Got it!

This Trem is definitely one of the "deeper" trems that I have played. When the Depth is maxed... it definitely THUMPS!!  8)
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: alanp on July 27, 2014, 12:42:12 AM
Greg, very impressive indeed! I'd be interested in the schem you used to update the Tremopanation (I was working off MarkusW's schematic, which I don't know the veracity of.)
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: GrindCustoms on July 27, 2014, 02:02:18 AM
So that's like the uBer Trem of all possible goodness, uh?

Very nice built Greg!

Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on July 27, 2014, 03:54:20 AM
Quote from: alanp on July 27, 2014, 12:42:12 AM
Greg, very impressive indeed! I'd be interested in the schem you used to update the Tremopanation (I was working off MarkusW's schematic, which I don't know the veracity of.)

PM'd Alan. Need a bit of help if you will....  ;)
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: LaceSensor on July 27, 2014, 08:22:10 AM
Quote from: GrindCustoms on July 27, 2014, 02:02:18 AM
So that's like the uBer Trem of all possible goodness, uh?

Very nice built Greg!

Dual Trem with square LFO one side, triangle the other in stereo is a thing if heavenly magnitude.... So yeah!
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on July 27, 2014, 04:35:33 PM
Now... If only I can get my Meatball to play nice!  :-[  >:(

Figures though.... easiest of these to build is giving me the biggest headache!  ::)
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on July 27, 2014, 11:16:43 PM
SO ANGRY!.... SO VERY ANGRY!!!!!

So, after chasing my tail for about 2 weeks with my Meatball build it turns out that I was just another Tayda victim!

Long story short... The LED bezel that I used for my RED On/Off LED was ordered from Tayda and is the PLASTIC variety. The reason I chose the PLASTIC type was because the LED leads are not insulated and I didn't want them to contact a METAL bezel and cause a short. WELL...... It turns out that the paint/plastic on the PLASTIC bezels is actually CONDUCTIVE!!!!!

(http://www.taydaelectronics.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/211x211/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/A/-/A-773_4.jpg)

The exposed Red LED lead was contacting the so-called Plastic bezel and shorting to the enclosure!  >:(

So... lesson learned for all whom didn't know it. The plastic LED bezels (the ones that look like chrome metal ones) are actually CONDUCTIVE!!

P.S. I hope this isn't a known thing!  :-[
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: LaceSensor on July 27, 2014, 11:40:47 PM
Wow. Lol.
Glad you got it fixed though.
LEDs see  to be causing a few issues these days.

Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: alanp on July 28, 2014, 04:34:52 AM
The incredible thing about this being the issue is how you tend to be a lot more exacting than the likes of me when it comes to heatshrink!

Good to hear it's sorted though!
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Stomptown on July 28, 2014, 05:06:17 AM
lol! That's just the gods letting you know that Tayda bezels have no place in such a masterpiece!  ;D Seriously though, you planned ahead and still got bit! Glad you got it all figured out and can't wait to see the finished product!
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: LaceSensor on July 28, 2014, 08:39:35 AM
Quote from: alanp on July 28, 2014, 04:34:52 AM
The incredible thing about this being the issue is how you tend to be a lot more exacting than the likes of me when it comes to heatshrink!

Good to hear it's sorted though!
indeed, like, Greg heatshrinked the ground bus on his wob to stop it touching the enclosure, which isnt even needed.
Sods law, they call it in the UK....
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on July 28, 2014, 11:11:21 AM
Quote from: LaceSensor on July 28, 2014, 08:39:35 AM
indeed, like, Greg heatshrinked the ground bus on his wob to stop it touching the enclosure, which isnt even needed.

Actually, the heatshrink on the bus is to keep it from contacting the Sleeves on some of the other jacks. (LFO Pedal jack)
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: LaceSensor on July 28, 2014, 12:13:16 PM
ahhh fair enough then ;)
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on July 28, 2014, 12:29:54 PM
Still waiting on the slow boat from the UK on my Ring Stinger transformers!!  >:(  ::)

You got some pull over there Ian?  8)
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: LaceSensor on July 28, 2014, 12:40:14 PM
should take around 6-12 days for standard mail
depends how they shipped them.

It will be worth the wait, the RS is insanium
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on July 28, 2014, 12:43:49 PM
Quote from: LaceSensor on July 28, 2014, 12:40:14 PM
should take around 6-12 days for standard mail

Ugh.... This is long past! And business days at that!  >:(
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: jtn191 on July 28, 2014, 03:42:32 PM
Looking forward to the build docs! Wobbulator seems most usable
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on August 08, 2014, 11:27:36 PM
Latest addition to the family....

The RING STINGER!! Fully functional and sounds AWESOME! One of the funkiest boxes I have ever used. The Octave Fuzz on this pedal is amazing! The use of the Drive, Timbre, and Blend knobs allow you to dial in anything from a mild OD-ish tone to full on Octave Fuzz MADNESS! But... that's not all.... switch over to the Ring mod mode and its chime heaven! Once you have gotten fully satisfied with your Ring mod... that's when you kick in the LFO to send it into new sonic territory! I played with this pedal for 2 1/2 hours and never lost the smile on my face  ;D

More mad props to Ian for his assistance with this!

On to the show:
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n541/redmangreg/DSCN1118_zpsc512d241.jpg)

I was going to settle for some Yellow mini chicken heads for the build but, after some arcane consultation from LaceSensor (Ian), he swayed me into making an exception and using the full size PINK to keep with the original colors.
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n541/redmangreg/DSCN1119_zps966460d0.jpg)

I decided to use some 1N781A diodes for the Transformer/Germ diode network. All of them matched to around 0.37 Fv and it sounds SUPER TIGHT when in the Octave mode....
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n541/redmangreg/DSCN1120_zps281fbd50.jpg)
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n541/redmangreg/DSCN1121_zps6323cc4f.jpg)

You will notice a small "jumper" soldered onto the trace side. This was a potential deal breaker when I first started debugging. For some reason the Octave Fuzz worked great but, the Ring mod mode and LFOs were terrible. After some hours of investigation, turns out I missed a trace on my layout. Luckily, it was easily fixed  ::) When I offer the etchable transfers, this will be corrected!!  8)

Also, the electro you see on the trace side was a goof on my part too. Accidentally soldered in the incorrect value when populating and didn't catch it until sound checks. I took the easy way out and instead of ripping the whole thing out, I just desoldered, dropped the bad one out, and added the right value on the trace side.... so SUE ME!  ;D

Only one more to go.... Cheese Source  8)
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: LaceSensor on August 09, 2014, 12:22:33 AM
Killer as usual
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on August 09, 2014, 01:09:02 AM
Thanks Ian. You know as well as I do that these bad boys are the bee's knees!

Would have to say that the RS build is probably the second most "complex" build next to the ?Flanger but... well worth the sonic capability! This thing rocks on so many levels. Bet it would be killer with just about any instrument!
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: jimilee on August 09, 2014, 02:26:01 AM
Kick Ass man!!!
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: alanp on August 09, 2014, 05:05:46 AM
These are top shelf builds, Greg!
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: lars on August 09, 2014, 05:28:48 AM
These builds are extremely uplifting. Their graphics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've seen on this site. The original pedals seem to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially pedals like the Meatball and Ring Stinger. But I also think these pedals work best within the confines of the group, than as solo pedals, and I stress the word pedal. This is the ?Stereo Flanger, a great, great flanger, a personal favorite.
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: lincolnic on August 09, 2014, 05:30:31 AM
So great! I hope I can get up the courage to build a Ring Stinger one day...
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: alanp on August 09, 2014, 05:58:32 AM
Oh, and Greg -- try linking VCO Out to In/On (no guitar plugged in.) Noise-synth fun!
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on August 09, 2014, 03:45:59 PM
Quote from: lincolnic on August 09, 2014, 05:30:31 AM
So great! I hope I can get up the courage to build a Ring Stinger one day...

When all is said and done... I'll be providing the info and layouts needed to build ALL of them! The ?Flanger and Doppelganger will be the "more well known" build docs (from LaceSensor and electricstorm) and will be added with the layouts that I designed or re-designed (Ring Stinger, Meatball, Wobulator, and Cheese Source)

Keep in mind that these build docs that I will be providing will be for builders who are ready to tackle these projects. They WILL NOT be the step-by-step "every little detail" type build doc. They will have a transfer layout, component locations w/ values, and wiring diagrams. No schematics. (although you can use your Google-fu to find most of them)

Quote from: alanp on August 09, 2014, 05:58:32 AM
Oh, and Greg -- try linking VCO Out to In/On (no guitar plugged in.) Noise-synth fun!

Yeah! This thing is a noise maker for sure. So very, very versitile!  ;)
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: LaceSensor on August 09, 2014, 05:26:50 PM
try setting the VCO freq very low, then using Freq modulation with a fairly low LFO rate, and medium to high depth.
Its almost like a step sequenced tremolo of sorts.

This box is the bomb
check this demo for hints

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKvkFI8Myws

Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: lincolnic on August 10, 2014, 02:35:13 AM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on August 09, 2014, 03:45:59 PM
When all is said and done... I'll be providing the info and layouts needed to build ALL of them! The ?Flanger and Doppelganger will be the "more well known" build docs (from LaceSensor and electricstorm) and will be added with the layouts that I designed or re-designed (Ring Stinger, Meatball, Wobulator, and Cheese Source)

Keep in mind that these build docs that I will be providing will be for builders who are ready to tackle these projects. They WILL NOT be the step-by-step "every little detail" type build doc. They will have a transfer layout, component locations w/ values, and wiring diagrams. No schematics. (although you can use your Google-fu to find most of them)

I've been building for about four and a half years now, that's the kind of build doc I can use...I guess I'll have to prepare myself for the knowledge drop!
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on August 11, 2014, 07:28:51 PM
Quote from: lincolnic on August 10, 2014, 02:35:13 AM
I've been building for about four and a half years now, that's the kind of build doc I can use...I guess I'll have to prepare myself for the knowledge drop!

Another thing to keep in mind is that these boards are pretty BIG!

Around 185mm x 90mm. Definitely do-able but can be time consuming. I am sure some of our resident board etching experts can help but I encourage you all to DIY at least 1 or 2.

Close to release on these. I have the Cheese Source documents done. Just need to fab and build for proof of concept  ;D

Also.. as a personal note... I hope that people try to tackle these. They are definitely worth the work and time involved. I have been involved in a few "larger" projects and it seems that they never catch on... MAJOR BUMMER! When you finish just one of them you will wonder why you never attempted them before. The whole purpose behind these full-sized clones was to see if I could do it and challenge myself but also to get around the "problems" with the smaller sized clones that have been done in the past.
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Droogie on August 11, 2014, 08:21:21 PM
I just finished my ? Flanger and had a bum trim pot on the daughter board. Now I have to order another and wait to test it out. It took a while to do the wiring, but wasn't ridiculous. If mine works, it will be proof that these projects are doable by the average builder. If it doesn't it means I'll be asking you, Lace and Alanp for troubleshooting help!

Kudos on all of the great builds!

Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: m-Kresol on August 11, 2014, 09:29:35 PM
I said it before and I'll say it again: all of them look amazing. Awesome outside and as tidy and thought-through inside. I bet the cheese source is going to be just as good (or did you post it already and I missed it?)

A friend of mine is fancying a flange with no name, so I might consider building one of yours. I was hoping to get a fabbed version though, etching isn't my strongest suit. I look forward to them nevertheless.
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: LaceSensor on August 11, 2014, 11:05:11 PM
Quote from: m-Kresol on August 11, 2014, 09:29:35 PM
I said it before and I'll say it again: all of them look amazing. Awesome outside and as tidy and thought-through inside. I bet the cheese source is going to be just as good (or did you post it already and I missed it?)

A friend of mine is fancying a flange with no name, so I might consider building one of yours. I was hoping to get a fabbed version though, etching isn't my strongest suit. I look forward to them nevertheless.

Haberdasher can etch fab them for you. His work is stellar
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on August 11, 2014, 11:21:18 PM
+1 on Haberdasher. His work is impeccable!

As far as the projects go... The Doppelgänger is Lacesensor's baby. The Flanger is Jim's (electric storm) both of these are available now with a bit of searching.

I will be providing build materials for the Meatball, Wobulator, Ring Stinger (6-knob version), and the Cheese Source. I will however, link the aforementioned 2 projects merely to keep them all together in one place.

Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: alanp on August 12, 2014, 05:29:35 AM
I encourage everyone who builds these to post reports! :)

And these are the same to build as Bazz Fusses, check your components as you place them, check that they are in the right place (I checked against the component/pcb traces picture repeatedly for this) and take care as you go, and things work out. My ?Flange worked first pop with no troubleshooting needed.
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on August 23, 2014, 06:28:32 PM
Gearing up to build the Cheese Source and my question is about file sharing....

What is the best way to share the files for these builds? Each of the builds that I did the documents for have 3 files. A transfer, a component layout, and wiring diagram (Except the RS... that one has 3 separate wiring diagrams)

Just wondering what is the best method for sharing ALL of these files  8)
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: muddyfox on August 23, 2014, 06:35:27 PM
zip it up into a single archive and share a dropbox/skydrive/etc link?

is that what you were asking?
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on August 23, 2014, 07:39:49 PM
@muddy

Yes! That was exactly what I was looking for. Didn't know if you could share zipped files on Dropbox.

I guess so...  ;D

Once I finish and validate the Cheese Source build... I will share ALL of the info. Hope to see some builds too!  8)
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Hangingmonkey on August 23, 2014, 08:05:22 PM
Cool, can't wait to see the docs for the wobulator
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: alanp on August 23, 2014, 08:14:46 PM
Me too, I'll revise the tremopanation :)
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 12, 2014, 12:51:29 AM
The Circle is COMPLETE!!!!!  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;)

I present to you The Cheese Source.....

Build was pretty simple compared to the rest in the series. This bad boy can go from smooth boosted goodness to DIRTY, FILTHY FUZZ!!! Originally installed the stomps backwards (OK... wired them backwards but so what?) and also found a hairline cut in one of the traces which disabled the Tone control on the Source side. Fixed both of these problems and now she purrs like a kitten! Or.... ROARS like a wild beast!
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n541/redmangreg/DSCN1123_zpsf13ec9b2.jpg)
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n541/redmangreg/DSCN1125_zps49bbcd51.jpg)

In keeping with my original promise, I will be posting the completed "simplified" build docs for ALL of the builds I posted here. The files will include the spectacular build documents for the DoppelGanger (care of LaceSensor), the ??Flanger (care of Jim/electricstorm), and the other layouts that I revised. Mind you that the build docs for the Wobulator, RingStinger, Meatball, and Cheese Source will be very basic. Transfers, Wiring diagrams, and Component diagrams. Enough for someone to build their own but it will take a more advanced builder to debug. Schematics for all of these can be found online in some form or another.

I will post the link to the files in the Members Tutorials section TOMORROW. Hope to see some GREAT builds!!  8)

***EDIT: 1000 posts!!!! Glad it was a good one!  8)
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Shrtyska9 on September 12, 2014, 01:15:34 AM
That's killer Greg! Can't wait to build some of these.
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Guitarmageddon on September 12, 2014, 04:01:53 AM
Absolutely marvellous work! 8)
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: alanp on September 12, 2014, 05:37:15 AM
Bluddynice. I take it that you used a D or DD for the Cheese Source?
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: muddyfox on September 12, 2014, 05:49:02 AM

Wooohooo! That'a a nice millenium, G.!

Looking forward to whatever you have to share.
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: LaceSensor on September 12, 2014, 06:42:24 AM
Bad ass. We need another group shot
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: juansolo on September 12, 2014, 07:29:28 AM
Again, most impressive!  8)
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 12, 2014, 11:34:55 AM
Quote from: alanp on September 12, 2014, 05:37:15 AM
Bluddynice. I take it that you used a D or DD for the Cheese Source?

Thanks a lot to all of you for the compliments!

All of these builds were done in Hammond 1590D enclosures.
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 12, 2014, 01:12:06 PM
As promised!  8)

http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=17402.msg166375#new
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Shrtyska9 on September 12, 2014, 05:43:23 PM
That link takes me to haveyouseenhim's holster thread.
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 12, 2014, 10:24:43 PM
Quote from: LaceSensor on September 12, 2014, 06:42:24 AM
Bad ass. We need another group shot

As requested!

The FAMILY!!!

(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n541/redmangreg/DSCN1127_zpsba2077ce.jpg)
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: brejna on September 12, 2014, 10:38:33 PM
This is like phd of building pedals :)
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: LaceSensor on September 13, 2014, 06:23:54 AM
Heavenly groupshot
Now go put the cheese and ringer in the meatball loop and process with the other three after, with a delay in the flange loop ftw
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: LaceSensor on September 27, 2014, 05:36:52 PM
shocked and saddened
the family being broken up already
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lovetone-Wobulator-CLONE-/261607122162?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item3ce8ffe4f2
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 27, 2014, 10:35:05 PM
Quote from: LaceSensor on September 27, 2014, 05:36:52 PM
shocked and saddened
the family being broken up already
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lovetone-Wobulator-CLONE-/261607122162?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item3ce8ffe4f2

Yeah. I am currently trying to raise some funds to help one of my family members through a rough time. It was almost like it was NOT meant to be for me to have these unfortunately  :( It was about a week after completing them that I got the news of the problems.

I actually tried to offer them all as a group, with a 1Spot to power them all, for a ridiculously low price (or ridiculous to me at least but... still pretty low) and I got no bidders  :'(

I currently have them ALL up individually for different prices based on the trends of the resale of authentics (roughly 1/2 price)

Either way... I can always make another when I get time AND it allowed me to contribute back to the community which I haven't been able to do for a while  8)
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: LaceSensor on September 28, 2014, 07:44:18 PM
Would you send overseas? I get requests all the time...
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 28, 2014, 08:15:59 PM
Quote from: LaceSensor on September 28, 2014, 07:44:18 PM
Would you send overseas? I get requests all the time...

ABSOLUTELY. I usually send USPS International Flat Rate. Unfortunately it costs, on average, about $70 before insurance  :-\ It also does not include any VATs, taxes, etc. but its the best option I have found for reliability AND price.

I'd be willing to work on the price though  ;)

PM me if you have any interest. I appreciate the assist  ;D
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: LaceSensor on September 28, 2014, 09:18:28 PM
sorry to hear of the issues; with any luck you will fetch a kingly sum with those.

I have emailed a few of my contacts who were interested in my clones.
No pressing need for build money right now and no time to address all the requests (!)

IAn
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on September 28, 2014, 09:20:52 PM
Quote from: LaceSensor on September 28, 2014, 09:18:28 PM
sorry to hear of the issues; with any luck you will fetch a kingly sum with those.

I have emailed a few of my contacts who were interested in my clones.
No pressing need for build money right now and no time to address all the requests (!)

IAn

Cheers Ian! Class act all the way  8)  ;D
Title: Re: Lovetone PORN!!!
Post by: LaceSensor on June 08, 2019, 01:48:34 PM
If anyone wanted to build a brown source, see below.
I just spent some time tracing my original.

(https://imagestock.cc/images/2019/06/1hw0gt5mhdpe2nwd9m6m.jpg)


(https://imagestock.cc/images/2019/06/3ixnc3f1qjwhrjgy3bba.jpg)