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Title: Moodring
Post by: madbean on August 16, 2014, 03:53:15 PM
Here's the completed Moodring build. I am really happy with the effect. I am less happy with sanding off the edges of the artwork and not being more careful with where I put the jacks. But, it fits and it works...so good enough for DIY.

I did wire this one up as non-true-bypass. Switching the reverb on and off is completely silent and the reverb decays over the clean signal when turned off. Just what I wanted. One thing I did not think all the way through is that in NTB wiring, the dry kill..uhh...kills your signal completely! This just means you cannot use the dry kill on the fly. Not an issue with true bypass wiring though. Maybe I can think of a solution for that using a DPDT with the dry kill. I'll see.

(http://www.madbeanpedals.com/builds/gallery/Moodring2014.jpg)
Title: Re: Moodring
Post by: gtr2 on August 16, 2014, 04:09:13 PM
Looks amazing!!!

Josh
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Post by: brejna on August 16, 2014, 04:14:50 PM
This one deserves video clip :D
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Post by: TGP39 on August 16, 2014, 04:27:11 PM
Love it. Want it. Got to got to have it!
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Post by: Alaboogie on August 16, 2014, 05:26:55 PM
Must. Have. Soundclips.  :P
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Post by: lars on August 16, 2014, 05:46:19 PM
+2 for the soundclip! I especially want to hear the "reverb decays over the clean signal when turned off." One thing I've found that's kind of funny is that 3P3T switches have gotten so cheap and common these days, we use them even when we don't need to. I have a couple builds the same way :)
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Post by: jubal81 on August 16, 2014, 05:46:21 PM
Sleek & classy. Sweetness.
Title: Re: Moodring
Post by: madbean on August 16, 2014, 06:00:16 PM
I'll do a video demo on Monday. I think I figured out the dry kill issue, too. Just need to wire the switch in parallel to the 3pdt so it shorts on bypass. Woohoo!
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Post by: jimilee on August 16, 2014, 06:14:46 PM
Drools
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Post by: m-Kresol on August 16, 2014, 06:18:11 PM
damn, that looks like another must-build to add to the list. looking forward to the demo.
Once again, excellent job Brian! I hope you know how much we all appreciate your efforts for the DIY community.
Title: Re: Moodring
Post by: mmlee on August 16, 2014, 07:50:58 PM
Ah man, I want this so bad.
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Post by: Leevibe on August 16, 2014, 08:17:23 PM
gorgeous!
Title: Re: Moodring
Post by: alanp on August 16, 2014, 09:11:44 PM
Quote from: madbean on August 16, 2014, 03:53:15 PM
I did wire this one up as non-true-bypass. Switching the reverb on and off is completely silent and the reverb decays over the clean signal when turned off. Just what I wanted. One thing I did not think all the way through is that in NTB wiring, the dry kill..uhh...kills your signal completely! This just means you cannot use the dry kill on the fly. Not an issue with true bypass wiring though. Maybe I can think of a solution for that using a DPDT with the dry kill. I'll see.

Parallel the dry kill switch with the unused pole on the stomp -- so that when the pedal is in Bypass, the stomp also connects the previously open Dry Kill.

Killer build :)
Title: Re: Moodring
Post by: juansolo on August 16, 2014, 09:57:10 PM
 8)
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Post by: culturejam on August 16, 2014, 10:02:18 PM
Gorgeous!
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Post by: GrindCustoms on August 16, 2014, 10:04:33 PM
Beautiful!

Still under the shock about how this circuit is designed....  8)
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Post by: bcalla on August 16, 2014, 11:41:40 PM
The copper / black combo is amazing.  Very nice.
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Post by: pickdropper on August 17, 2014, 02:19:29 AM
That looks great, Brian.  Which length brick did you use?
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Post by: selfdestroyer on August 17, 2014, 02:29:02 AM
Super awesome. Just ordered mine and am very excited to build it out. Your artwork on the faceplate look outstanding and simple. I love it.

Cody
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Post by: Morgan on August 17, 2014, 03:40:09 AM
Nice - I dig the graphic!
Title: Re: Moodring
Post by: m-Kresol on August 17, 2014, 08:45:49 AM
Quote from: pickdropper on August 17, 2014, 02:19:29 AM
That looks great, Brian.  Which length brick did you use?
The build doc states that he only tried the M brick, so I guess it has to be that one. Sounds like a good choice considering there is the pt2399 in there too
Title: Re: Moodring
Post by: cooder on August 19, 2014, 03:11:52 AM
Fantastic! Need another reverb, this one for sure...! 8)
Title: Re: Moodring
Post by: pickdropper on August 19, 2014, 03:26:10 AM
Quote from: m-Kresol on August 17, 2014, 08:45:49 AM
Quote from: pickdropper on August 17, 2014, 02:19:29 AM
That looks great, Brian.  Which length brick did you use?
The build doc states that he only tried the M brick, so I guess it has to be that one. Sounds like a good choice considering there is the pt2399 in there too

Ah, missed that.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Moodring
Post by: wgc on August 19, 2014, 04:20:11 AM
I dunno why, but the ring makes me think of the green lantern.  The comics, not the movies.

Cool stuff!
Title: Re: Moodring
Post by: madbean on August 19, 2014, 05:10:27 PM
Thanks for all the kudos! It's looking like tomorrow or Thursday for doing the demo. I should have some more 125B coming so I'm going to try to sneak in the Sparklehorn as well. Then its back to all the stuff I gotta get ready for September.
Title: Re: Moodring
Post by: muddyfox on August 19, 2014, 05:17:21 PM

Just ordered this, can't wait to put it together.

Also bought four other boards.... just because.  ::) ;D
Title: Re: Moodring
Post by: Alaboogie on August 22, 2014, 12:52:20 AM
Bumping for a sound demo! Mines is in the mail but I can't wait till Monday for it to be delivered to box it, i must hear it! :) waiting on you Bean... :)
Title: Re: Moodring
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on August 22, 2014, 12:54:40 AM
@Brian

How long does it take you to etch that size faceplate? That's a LOT of copper coming off  :o
Title: Re: Moodring
Post by: madbean on August 22, 2014, 01:08:18 AM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on August 22, 2014, 12:54:40 AM
@Brian

How long does it take you to etch that size faceplate? That's a LOT of copper coming off  :o

About 10 minutes. I use a less potent acid so it takes longer. But, it doesn't smell bad!
Title: Re: Moodring
Post by: jjanssen1 on August 22, 2014, 03:23:02 AM
Hi Madbean,
Cool Effect :D
Just a quick question how did you do the artwork?
Cheers
Joshua
Title: Re: Moodring
Post by: micromegas on August 27, 2014, 04:47:07 PM
Quote from: madbean on August 19, 2014, 05:10:27 PM
Thanks for all the kudos! It's looking like tomorrow or Thursday for doing the demo. I should have some more 125B coming so I'm going to try to sneak in the Sparklehorn as well. Then its back to all the stuff I gotta get ready for September.

I'm eager to hear how this pedal rings.. I assume you did not find the time to do the demo but, only to get a picture: does it sounds similar to the EQD Ghost Echo? Looking at the schematic I can see it shares some ideas but the Space pot has other configuration and the tone control could definitely perform a substancial difference.
Title: Re: Moodring
Post by: Stig on August 27, 2014, 05:27:52 PM
+1 on the demo. Been checking youtube regularly since that monday.
Title: Re: Moodring
Post by: Droogie on August 27, 2014, 06:35:51 PM
Quote from: micromegas on August 27, 2014, 04:47:07 PM

I'm eager to hear how this pedal rings.. I assume you did not find the time to do the demo but, only to get a picture: does it sounds similar to the EQD Ghost Echo? Looking at the schematic I can see it shares some ideas but the Space pot has other configuration and the tone control could definitely perform a substancial difference.

I fired this up on Sunday, but haven't boxed it yet. The tone control is pretty dramatic and the way it interacts with other controls is also unique. It will get to the drone stage with things dimed, but can easily function as a typical reverb if you want that. The dry switch is also a really nice touch.
Title: Re: Moodring
Post by: chuckbuick on August 28, 2014, 12:33:12 AM
That's a beauty!  I guess that's why your name is on the website. :)
Title: Re: Moodring
Post by: madbean on August 28, 2014, 12:34:15 AM
Just finished the Sparklehorn build up today, so now I can demo both tomorrow. Sorry for the wait...but I had to get the SH finished up.
Title: Re: Moodring
Post by: madbean on August 28, 2014, 01:18:57 PM
Here is the completed Sparklehorn build. The interior work is kinda meh. I had to do a few de-solders and replacement so the board got a bit cruddy. But, hey.

(http://www.madbeanpedals.com/builds/gallery/SparkleHorn2014.jpg)
Title: Re: Moodring
Post by: micromegas on August 28, 2014, 01:38:08 PM
Cool! Many knobs to turn! I know a couple of guys who could make a complete turn with something like the Spaklehorn...
Title: Re: Moodring
Post by: m-Kresol on August 28, 2014, 03:02:45 PM
Is there a specific reason for the 2 different kinds of 9mm pots?
I guess, there should be enough room for 2 rows of regular 9mm pots and I don't really like the plastic shaft ones.
Title: Re: Moodring
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on August 28, 2014, 03:35:37 PM
Awesome build Brian!

I just cannot stop looking at that big, fat, unwired sleeve on the Output  :o Especially after just spending 2 days debugging a DOD pedal only to find it wasn't working properly because the Output jack used the casing (which had paint on it) as the ground.
Title: Re: Moodring
Post by: madbean on August 28, 2014, 03:45:30 PM
Quote from: m-Kresol on August 28, 2014, 03:02:45 PM
Is there a specific reason for the 2 different kinds of 9mm pots?
I guess, there should be enough room for 2 rows of regular 9mm pots and I don't really like the plastic shaft ones.

You don't have to use the plastic shaft ones. You can use the other kind. The only difference is the holes for the mounting clips are 1mm larger on the plastic shaft ones. But, you can still fold them over and solder them to the pad if you want. Better to give options for people who prefer different methods :)

QuoteI just cannot stop looking at that big, fat, unwired sleeve on the Output

It has continuity with ground (I checked). If it were all plastic, I would ground the sleeve but it isn't necessary here.
Title: Re: Moodring
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on August 28, 2014, 03:49:20 PM
Quote from: madbean on August 28, 2014, 03:45:30 PM
It has continuity with ground (I checked). If it were all plastic, I would ground the sleeve but it isn't necessary here.

I see. The only reason I mention it is because... if for some reason the output jack comes loose... you lose EVEYTHING to static/hiss  :-\
Title: Re: Moodring
Post by: m-Kresol on August 28, 2014, 04:14:49 PM
Quote from: madbean on August 28, 2014, 03:45:30 PM
Quote from: m-Kresol on August 28, 2014, 03:02:45 PM
Is there a specific reason for the 2 different kinds of 9mm pots?
I guess, there should be enough room for 2 rows of regular 9mm pots and I don't really like the plastic shaft ones.

You don't have to use the plastic shaft ones. You can use the other kind. The only difference is the holes for the mounting clips are 1mm larger on the plastic shaft ones. But, you can still fold them over and solder them to the pad if you want. Better to give options for people who prefer different methods :)


Thanks for clarifying that. Looking forward to my build
Title: Re: Moodring
Post by: pogart on September 15, 2014, 04:30:20 AM
I hope this does not sound like a silly/obvious question but here go's. I have been reading over the notes for wiring on the MOODRING wiring page and for the "buffered" wiring image the two "yellow" wires from the dry are connected to where? Go easy on me, I am new to the DIY gang : )
Thanks, POGART
Title: Re: Moodring
Post by: Shrtyska9 on September 15, 2014, 05:03:02 AM
Quote from: pogart on September 15, 2014, 04:30:20 AM
I hope this does not sound like a silly/obvious question but here go's. I have been reading over the notes for wiring on the MOODRING wiring page and for the "buffered" wiring image the two "yellow" wires from the dry are connected to where? Go easy on me, I am new to the DIY gang : )
Thanks, POGART

The pins of an on-on spdt toggle switch. The wire from the square pad on the board goes to the center pin and the wire from the round pad goes to one of the outer pins. Then solder the unused outside pin to the center pin.
A spst switch can be used instead and would be wired the same way except the spst only has 2 pins so you wire one pad to one pin and the other pad to the other pin.

BTW Welcome to arguably the best pedal forum on the internet.

Richard
Title: Re: Moodring
Post by: pogart on September 15, 2014, 07:24:31 PM
Thanks a million Richard. I completely get it : )
I have to agree, this is one cool place to spend time in reading and planning pedal builds. Just waiting on the mail to bring my bag of goodies to start.
POGART