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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: midwayfair on December 06, 2014, 12:13:39 PM

Poll
Question: Which side of the enclosure should tap tempo be on?
Option 1: Left votes: 15
Option 2: Right votes: 15
Option 3: Doesn't really matter, but I prefer left votes: 13
Option 4: Doesn't really matter, but I prefer right votes: 12
Title: Tap tempo should be on the ...
Post by: midwayfair on December 06, 2014, 12:13:39 PM
I just finished a layout. Well, two, actually. The difference between them is that layout A has the tap tempo on the left of the enclosure looking down at a completed pedal, and the other has the tap tempo on the right of the enclosure.

Title: Re: Tap tempo should be on the ...
Post by: icecycle66 on December 06, 2014, 12:57:44 PM
ON the same side as the tempo control knob, if there is a tempo control knob.
Title: Re: Tap tempo should be on the ...
Post by: selfdestroyer on December 06, 2014, 11:00:33 PM
I see it this way, I play drums and I am used to using my right foot for the bass drum. So for me its my dominant foot for tempo.

Cody
Title: Re: Tap tempo should be on the ...
Post by: dont-tase-me-bro on December 06, 2014, 11:33:49 PM
I'm left handed, but can only tap a tempo with my right foot.  My left foot has no rhythm.  I should probably start building my pedals with inputs on the left too, since society is geared toward righties.  I can sell them at the Leftorium
Title: Re: Tap tempo should be on the ...
Post by: RobA on December 07, 2014, 04:53:19 AM
Quote from: dont-tase-me-bro on December 06, 2014, 11:33:49 PM
[...] I can sell them at the Leftorium
I heard they were replaced by a Starbucks.
Title: Re: Tap tempo should be on the ...
Post by: Muadzin on December 07, 2014, 07:29:05 AM
Since the flow of a guitar signal on most pedal boards goes from right to left to me it seems logical to have the tap tempo to the left of the enclosure. It seems kinda counter intuitive when you're tapdancing multiple pedals to have to move your foot some more because there's a tap tempo switch in between this pedal bypass switch and the bypass switch of the preceding pedal.

Of course that's pure between my ears because if you place another pedal after this one you would still have to move your foot some extra distance.
Title: Re: Tap tempo should be on the ...
Post by: drolo on December 07, 2014, 12:11:10 PM
I somehow intuitively started putting it on the right as it felt easier to access the tap button there. Lately I have been contemplating using a phaser with tap on the left, next to a trem with tap on the right so I could tap both buttons simultaneoulsy ... kind of a poor man's midi tap synchronisation :-)
Title: Re: Tap tempo should be on the ...
Post by: midwayfair on December 07, 2014, 12:37:48 PM
I'm amazed how close this poll is.

I actually did a PCB two ways recently because I couldn't decide which way I wanted it; one had the tap button on the right, which is where it is on the TT cardinal on my pedal board; but my El Cap and almost every production pedal I've seen has it on the left. I don't know that I have a preference ... I actually had the bypass on the left in the TTC specifically because it meant that I wouldn't hit my volume pedal when I went to turn the tremolo on and off!
Title: Re: Tap tempo should be on the ...
Post by: destro on December 08, 2014, 06:32:05 AM
ADA flanger?!

Seriously, though....player's perspective on the right. Right foot tempo kinda guy. If it is on the left side of pedal board you don't have to worry about missing the bypass switch. Builder's perspective would take into consideration where the LFO is and if there is a possibility of tick bleed.

Title: Re: Tap tempo should be on the ...
Post by: Cortexturizer on December 08, 2014, 06:42:27 AM
On the left for me. Wouldn't have it any other way if I could have a choice.
Title: Re: Tap tempo should be on the ...
Post by: GermanCdn on December 08, 2014, 06:43:29 AM
I voted left as well, mainly because my brain follows the signal chain when it comes to footswitches, so the primary control is on the right and the auxillary on the left (be it tap tempo, modulation, boost, awesomeness injector).  Makes things easier for my simple brain not to have to remember if the two in one overdrive is switched on the right side, but the delay tap is also on the right side, etc, etc, etc.

Given the unbelievably tight results, maybe it's best just to leave it as offboard wiring (this statement assumes you're asking the question because you've got the switches board mounted in some fashion).
Title: Re: Tap tempo should be on the ...
Post by: midwayfair on December 08, 2014, 06:49:42 AM
Quote from: GermanCdn on December 08, 2014, 06:43:29 AMGiven the unbelievably tight results, maybe it's best just to leave it as offboard wiring (this statement assumes you're asking the question because you've got the switches board mounted in some fashion).

The switches themselves aren't mounted, but there's an on-board active bypass and I'm just trying to keep the wiring as neat/short as possible.
Title: Re: Tap tempo should be on the ...
Post by: blearyeyes on December 08, 2014, 04:34:08 PM
I say make it wireless and mount it in the sole of your right shoe!
Title: Re: Tap tempo should be on the ...
Post by: RobA on December 08, 2014, 08:28:17 PM
Quote from: blearyeyes on December 08, 2014, 04:34:08 PM
I say make it wireless and mount it in the sole of your right shoe!
If you are willing to mod your shoe, it could be done fairly easily.
Title: Re: Tap tempo should be on the ...
Post by: blearyeyes on December 09, 2014, 12:45:17 AM
I'll mod my shoe and PM you details... Hey this could turn into a group buy...
Maybe put a phone in the other one.. hmm
Title: Re: Tap tempo should be on the ...
Post by: drolo on December 09, 2014, 02:49:56 AM
If you are going to mod your shoe, you might as well add a motion detection CV output too  8)
Title: Re: Tap tempo should be on the ...
Post by: RobA on December 09, 2014, 05:44:40 AM
And a proximity sensor. Hmm, maybe if we start with the phone in the shoe, we can get the rest for free.
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Post by: eldanko on December 09, 2014, 10:44:15 AM
Just checked the poll results. 40 votes, and we apparently haven't helped you one bit.  ;D
Title: Re: Tap tempo should be on the ...
Post by: AntKnee on December 09, 2014, 11:57:47 AM
I prefer my bypass switch on the left, and my other switches, like tap, boost, etc. on the right. Like reading, left to right, turn it on, then move to other controls.
Title: Re: Tap tempo should be on the ...
Post by: culturejam on December 09, 2014, 12:02:57 PM
Tap (or boost or any extra function) on the left for me.
Title: Re: Tap tempo should be on the ...
Post by: pickdropper on December 09, 2014, 12:40:58 PM
Quote from: eldanko on December 09, 2014, 10:44:15 AM
Just checked the poll results. 40 votes, and we apparently haven't helped you one bit.  ;D

I  predict a lot of arguments and confusion over the results.  We'll have to check for hanging chads.
Title: Re: Tap tempo should be on the ...
Post by: rumbletone on December 09, 2014, 08:01:11 PM
How about you use momentary on both, and add a toggle to swap which one controls relay bypass and which controls tap tempo? Best of both worlds...
Title: Re: Tap tempo should be on the ...
Post by: morganp on December 10, 2014, 12:19:20 AM
I always put my "extra" switch on the left, probably due to the "direction of signal flow" logic others have mentioned. 

I do almost all my stomping with my right foot, regardless of where the switch lies on my pedalboard.  Is this going in like a 1590BB?  Honestly, I couldn't imagine choosing which foot to use based on what side of the box the switch is on; that's a matter of a few inches difference on the box (at most), where my feet will be much farther away from each other than that.  I'm not gonna switch to my left foot all of a sudden because the tap switch is all the way on the other side of the enclosure.  Maybe I'd feel different if I weren't a giant?
Title: Re: Tap tempo should be on the ...
Post by: aballen on December 11, 2014, 12:18:03 PM
For me it just seems intuitive to keep the bypass stomp on the right.  Much like the input jack, you just would not move that to the left side. 

I always tap with my right foot though.  I don't think putting the tap tempo stomp on the right would make a difference though.  You are talking two inches.