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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: ggarms on December 24, 2014, 04:02:17 PM

Title: Building a vocal effects unit for a guy and he wants a "megaphone" sound....
Post by: ggarms on December 24, 2014, 04:02:17 PM
An old friend of mine wants me to build him a vocal effects unit and aside from delay and reverb he wants something akin to a megaphone sounding effect. It seems like that "megaphone" sound is a combination of a lot of treble, compression, and distortion, but i'm not yet sure how to tackle it. Any circuit suggestions or ideas?
Title: Re: Building a vocal effects unit for a guy and he wants a "megaphone" sound....
Post by: davent on December 24, 2014, 06:17:01 PM
would something like the LofoMofo or the Geofex low fidelity/telephone-noise-circuit fit the bill, no experience with either.

http://www.geofex.com/FX_images/lofi.gif
http://www.generalguitargadgets.com/effects-projects/filters-other/lofo/

Some info on the geofex here.
http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=81197.0
Title: Re: Building a vocal effects unit for a guy and he wants a "megaphone" sound....
Post by: midwayfair on December 24, 2014, 07:11:11 PM
Some of it's not reproduceable, because it comes from the horn itself.

Tom Waits tried everything he could think of to find this sound, and he bought a megaphone in the end.

Anyway, the "megaphone" effect in Garageband does the following:

High pass at 76Hz.
Compressor with 10mS attack and 48mS release and a ratio of 5.8:1.
American (read "Fender") style amp simulation with the bass at 0 and the mids and treble halfway up.
Distortion with a 2900Hz treble cut
EQ with a +8dB peak boost centered at 3450Hz.

In that order.

That's actually quite a lot of circuitry, but it's a VERY close emulation. Still not quite the same, though.
Title: Re: Building a vocal effects unit for a guy and he wants a "megaphone" sound....
Post by: ggarms on December 24, 2014, 08:35:31 PM
Thanks guys. I'm a bit intrigued by the lofomofo actually. In our old band, we ran a few of his vocal parts through a proco rat and the guts of a snare, and it ended up sounding super cool.  As long as I give him something that somewhat even remotely resembles the feel of a megaphone, he'll be right as rain.
Title: Re: Building a vocal effects unit for a guy and he wants a "megaphone" sound....
Post by: dont-tase-me-bro on December 24, 2014, 08:44:24 PM
This is the easy way

Title: Re: Building a vocal effects unit for a guy and he wants a "megaphone" sound....
Post by: alanp on December 24, 2014, 10:36:55 PM
IIRC, there's a vid of Tom Waits doing the same thing on some USAian show :)
Title: Re: Building a vocal effects unit for a guy and he wants a "megaphone" sound....
Post by: peterc on December 25, 2014, 08:36:35 AM
When I build a megaphone sound in a post session, it is basically a honky thing with no bottom or top.....

Start with a high pass filter with a corner freq between 250-400.

Low pass filter set to 2-4 khz

Peak eq boost at about 1.8/2k, 5 or 6 dB

A dB or 2 of cut at 800hZ

Touch of distortion to give it  a slightly metallic feel.

Compress the crap out of it....

Some slap back echo finishes the picture!
Title: Re: Building a vocal effects unit for a guy and he wants a "megaphone" sound....
Post by: lars on December 25, 2014, 10:16:12 AM
This is where the idea of a tiny speaker and a condenser microphone in an enclosure would get you hypothetically the sound you want. Instead of trying to mimic the sound of an AM transistor radio, just convert one into a circuit that takes an input. It's actually pretty easy to do on old radios because the input from the tuner is usually a connection on the volume pot itself. Then you just add in a condenser mic circuit to pick up the sounds inside the enclosure and viola, you have real soundwaves bouncing around in there that would already be very LoFi.
Title: Re: Building a vocal effects unit for a guy and he wants a "megaphone" sound....
Post by: ggarms on December 26, 2014, 07:40:48 AM
Lars, I actually thought about doing that! I'll keep you guys posted on what I end up doing. Thanks for all the input.
Title: Re: Building a vocal effects unit for a guy and he wants a "megaphone" sound....
Post by: Matt on December 26, 2014, 07:42:27 AM
Quote from: dont-tase-me-bro on December 24, 2014, 08:44:24 PM
This is the easy way


just make sure the sound man is aware!  ;D
Title: Re: Building a vocal effects unit for a guy and he wants a "megaphone" sound....
Post by: lars on December 26, 2014, 08:37:59 AM
The funny thing is, an easy circuit that would probably work for this is the Dora the explorer sing along microphone. ;D My friend's bought one for their daughter, and if you sing loud through it with the microphone close up, it distorts and feeds back just like a bullhorn. Right there you have a battery-powered circuit with the speaker and mic all ready to go. Just put the guts in an enclosure and figure out a balanced line driver circuit for the XLR input and output, put a stompswitch in there, and then you could hook it up to any PA system.