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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: pickdropper on January 09, 2015, 04:54:31 PM

Title: Really want one of these
Post by: pickdropper on January 09, 2015, 04:54:31 PM
It's not perfect, but if it works, it could be a really fun and useful tool:

http://techcrunch.com/2015/01/06/the-voltera-v-one-makes-circuit-boards-in-minutes/
Title: Re: Really want one of these
Post by: micromegas on January 09, 2015, 05:04:37 PM
wow, not perfect, but I dig it a lot! I haven't seen the video, but the article doesn't say anything about the price... that could really be a drawback.
Title: Re: Really want one of these
Post by: pickdropper on January 09, 2015, 05:05:54 PM
Quote from: micromegas on January 09, 2015, 05:04:37 PM
wow, not perfect, but I dig it a lot! I haven't seen the video, but the article doesn't say anything about the price... that could really be a drawback.

The pre-order price is $1499.  They said it will increase after launch, but I am not sure by how much. I also don't know how much the materials will cost.
Title: Re: Really want one of these
Post by: rullywowr on January 09, 2015, 05:07:10 PM
It looks pretty interesting, however the refills are very pricey and it seems to not be able to drill holes for through hole components?
Title: Re: Really want one of these
Post by: culturejam on January 09, 2015, 05:34:57 PM
Quote from: rullywowr on January 09, 2015, 05:07:10 PM
It looks pretty interesting, however the refills are very pricey and it seems to not be able to drill holes for through hole components?

Drilling the holes is the easy part.  ;)
Title: Re: Really want one of these
Post by: flanagan0718 on January 09, 2015, 05:35:49 PM
This is Awesome. Maybe get a couple guys together and split the cost that would be an easier pill to swallow.
Title: Re: Really want one of these
Post by: pickdropper on January 09, 2015, 05:44:58 PM
Quote from: culturejam on January 09, 2015, 05:34:57 PM
Quote from: rullywowr on January 09, 2015, 05:07:10 PM
It looks pretty interesting, however the refills are very pricey and it seems to not be able to drill holes for through hole components?

Drilling the holes is the easy part.  ;)

For single-sided yes.  For double-sided it would be a bit more of a PITA without being able to do PTH.

I think the strength of the machine is for SMT work, not really through-hole.
Title: Re: Really want one of these
Post by: blearyeyes on January 09, 2015, 05:51:38 PM
Would be a real time saver for development.

I really does inspire equipment lust!
Title: Re: Really want one of these
Post by: culturejam on January 09, 2015, 06:46:57 PM
Quote from: pickdropper on January 09, 2015, 05:44:58 PM
For single-sided yes.  For double-sided it would be a bit more of a PITA without being able to do PTH.

As I mentioned in our chat earlier, I think the solution would be to print the traces on both sides, drill it, then just solder the pads on both sides (and really you'd only need to do it for those pads that have a top/bottom correlation). It's a little more soldering, but I'd be willing to do the extra work to save 10-14 days of waiting on a board.
Title: Re: Really want one of these
Post by: pickdropper on January 09, 2015, 07:17:11 PM
Quote from: culturejam on January 09, 2015, 06:46:57 PM
Quote from: pickdropper on January 09, 2015, 05:44:58 PM
For single-sided yes.  For double-sided it would be a bit more of a PITA without being able to do PTH.

As I mentioned in our chat earlier, I think the solution would be to print the traces on both sides, drill it, then just solder the pads on both sides (and really you'd only need to do it for those pads that have a top/bottom correlation). It's a little more soldering, but I'd be willing to do the extra work to save 10-14 days of waiting on a board.

Yeah, that could work if tolerances are tight enough.  You could put extra holes for the ground planes to connect as well.