http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/gibson-gibson-sg-50s-tribute-electric-guitar-sgtr5v5ch1-vintage-sunburst-sgtr5v5ch1/10326928.aspx?path=9fc4a5c3dd97c74364cbe81693d06c7ben02
Get one, eh?
This was a mean thing to do to Curtis.
Sharp looking guitar. I got a Les Paul with "P90s" in it. Turned out to be P100s total garbage. ripped them out and put these in (see below). Never looked back.
DiMarzio DLX Plus
(http://www.dimarzio.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/product_pickup/dp154bk.jpg)
This is a worry:
Quote20 kg weight makes this a light hang on your shoulder when standing up and playing
Thanks for caring guys.
ORDERED!
(PS, you do realize that's $300 USD)
I have the 60's version with the humbuckers and if its anything like that quality then I would definitely get it. I love my SG and P90's would be awesome in there.
Cody
what the hell? this is an amazing deal! I'm always able to hold back on gear, but this I would jump on one these immediately.
Also, I just realized once more how big price differences between Europe and US/Canada are. I paid 110€ more for my epiphone LP than for one of the ones listed here, which isn't even discounted...
id be keener on the LP for $100 more
for example
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/gibson-gibson-les-paul-50s-tribute-electric-guitar-lptr5w5ch1-wine-red-lptr5w5ch1/10326931.aspx?path=d06cd784b3e8554ce464c17dc798cd66en02
Quote from: LaceSensor on March 04, 2015, 03:33:30 PM
id be keener on the LP for $100 more
for example
http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/gibson-gibson-les-paul-50s-tribute-electric-guitar-lptr5w5ch1-wine-red-lptr5w5ch1/10326931.aspx?path=d06cd784b3e8554ce464c17dc798cd66en02
Embrace the horns and get an SG! haha
Cody
had one years ago, couldnt abide the balance, or lack thereof (!)
Man... you guys are terrible. Too good a deal to pass up.
These are regularly $899 I thought I saw.
Jacob
I got the last one in cherry finish! LaceSensor - the bigsby I will inevitably add to it should balance out the weight :-)
Just came back from work trip, saw thread... ...Ordered!
;D
QuotePS, you do realize that's $300 USD
It's AUD$413.. compare to an online price of $1799 for a 60's tribute.
http://www.allansbillyhyde.com.au/prod/SGTR6T5CH1/Gibson_SG%E2%84%A2_%2760s_Tribute_Electric_Guitar_%28Chocolate%29.aspx
If I wanted an SG, I'd be on it in a second. I don't though.. but I'm tempted.
Thats a steal. How could you resist at that price.
I'd get aboot ordering one rightaway ;D
Sorry... I couldn't resist ;)
Sweetwater's got some pretty wicked deals on SG deluxes right now as well. Flame top, three pickup w/Bigsby and HSC for $1598. Pretty sure those are regular like $2200?
do they ship to the USA?
pretty sure that's lame. :(
Quote from: playpunk on March 05, 2015, 11:03:25 AM
pretty sure that's lame. :(
For once that it's us that have something nice happening.... ;)
Damn you righties! >:(
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on March 05, 2015, 11:28:17 AM
Damn you righties! >:(
I'm a 100% lefty who play right to not be stuck in the rut of non-available lefty! :P
Quote from: GrindCustoms on March 05, 2015, 11:39:41 AM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on March 05, 2015, 11:28:17 AM
Damn you righties! >:(
I'm a 100% lefty who play right to not be stuck in the rut of non-available lefty! :P
This is me too. Although it was my first guitar teacher that encouraged my parents to make me learn to play right handed. Glad he did
Quote from: GrindCustoms on March 05, 2015, 11:39:41 AM
I'm a 100% lefty who play right to not be stuck in the rut of non-available lefty! :P
Quote from: irmcdermott on March 05, 2015, 11:46:35 AM
This is me too. Although it was my first guitar teacher that encouraged my parents to make me learn to play right handed. Glad he did
Tried playing righty for the same reasons. Just didn't work. :-[
Sometime i think of grabbing a left hand guitar and become the Michael Angelo Batio of Br00tz....
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on March 05, 2015, 11:53:56 AM
Quote from: GrindCustoms on March 05, 2015, 11:39:41 AM
I'm a 100% lefty who play right to not be stuck in the rut of non-available lefty! :P
Quote from: irmcdermott on March 05, 2015, 11:46:35 AM
This is me too. Although it was my first guitar teacher that encouraged my parents to make me learn to play right handed. Glad he did
Tried playing righty for the same reasons. Just didn't work. :-[
Althought there's always someone who cannot play right, in classical music there's many people that think that, as learning music is a complete independent process and as guitar playing is completely assimetrical, it has nothing to do with what part of your brain is most active or what hand you do use for writting, it is a matter of how well you are taught and how you train your muscles.
Not that I share that thought, but has some valuable points. Think in a lefty pianist for example :) they have to train both hands anyway to work independtly of each other and yet be able to do the same.
This has been bugging me since this was first posted yesterday: How the hell can you have a 50's Tribute version of a guitar that was introduced in 1961?
Quote from: mgwhit on March 05, 2015, 12:04:36 PM
This has been bugging me since this was first posted yesterday: How the hell can you have a 50's Tribute version of a guitar that was introduced in 1961?
ROFL!
Quote from: mgwhit on March 05, 2015, 12:04:36 PM
This has been bugging me since this was first posted yesterday: How the hell can you have a 50's Tribute version of a guitar that was introduced in 1961?
Umm, cause Henry said so?
Quote from: mgwhit on March 05, 2015, 12:04:36 PM
This has been bugging me since this was first posted yesterday: How the hell can you have a 50's Tribute version of a guitar that was introduced in 1961?
Same with the 60's tribute I have, the only thing that was "60's" about it was the neck profile. Had grovers and ugly speed knobs (which I changed).
Cody
Quote from: selfdestroyer on March 05, 2015, 01:12:39 PM
Quote from: mgwhit on March 05, 2015, 12:04:36 PM
This has been bugging me since this was first posted yesterday: How the hell can you have a 50's Tribute version of a guitar that was introduced in 1961?
Same with the 60's tribute I have, the only thing that was "60's" about it was the neck profile. Had grovers and ugly speed knobs (which I changed).
Cody
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You beat me to it. It's the SG tribute to the 50's shape Gibson neck profile.
But yeah, it does sound a bit silly when one considers that the the SG (Les Paul at the time) didn't launch until '61.
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Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on March 05, 2015, 11:53:56 AM
Quote from: GrindCustoms on March 05, 2015, 11:39:41 AM
I'm a 100% lefty who play right to not be stuck in the rut of non-available lefty! :P
Quote from: irmcdermott on March 05, 2015, 11:46:35 AM
This is me too. Although it was my first guitar teacher that encouraged my parents to make me learn to play right handed. Glad he did
Tried playing righty for the same reasons. Just didn't work. :-[
I have to say, I love to see left handed guitar players. Don't know why, but I kinda dislike when you have a bassist and lets say two guitar players standing on a stage all the same way. :)
Furthermore, I don't get why left handed guitars are that rare or have a way smaller assortment. The days, where you forced children to be right handed are over. There's at least 35% lefties nowadays...
I don't envy the plight (sp?) of you lefties at all. My best friend and former bass player (had to get that order right) is a righty who plays left (for the love of God I don't know why), and for him to find gear is a major pain. I've actually seen him in the studio playing upside down because no one could find him the equivalent instrument in a lefty.
Granted, he's a bass player, I guess it doesn't make much difference whether the fat string is on the top or the bottom, cause it's the only one they use....
(ducking behind my couch fort, anticipating the Jimilee onslaught)
Quote from: GermanCdn on March 05, 2015, 01:57:21 PM
I don't envy the plight (sp?) of you lefties at all. My best friend and former bass player (had to get that order right) is a righty who plays left (for the love of God I don't know why), and for him to find gear is a major pain. I've actually seen him in the studio playing upside down because no one could find him the equivalent instrument in a lefty.
Granted, he's a bass player, I guess it doesn't make much difference whether the fat string is on the top or the bottom, cause it's the only one they use....
(ducking behind my couch fort, anticipating the Jimilee onslaught)
I got to jam with a local pro bass player who is a lefty that plays a righty backwards without restringing it. He's just a fantastic funk and blues player. For the life of me, I can't figure out how one plays slap bass with the thickest string farthest away from you. It's all backwards. He's obviously figured it out.
At one point, I did ask him why he plays like that. Apparently he learned on his older brother's bass, who wouldn't have been pleased with it being restrung in the opposite direction.
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Review of the Les Paul:
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Are these made in China?!
I bought one of these for my son who has been playing for about 5 years now. It was virtually unplayable as delivered. The action was so high and the neck had a major bow in it. His music teacher tried to adjust the truss rod but he was unable to get the action playable. The finish was very rough in places almost like the wood was not sanded properly. To top it off, the knobs on the volume and tone controls are crooked. Huge disappointment over all. DO NOT BUY ONE OF THESE SIGHT UNSEEN.
Quote from: blearyeyes on March 05, 2015, 03:47:47 PM
Review of the Les Paul:
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Are these made in China?!
I bought one of these for my son who has been playing for about 5 years now. It was virtually unplayable as delivered. The action was so high and the neck had a major bow in it. His music teacher tried to adjust the truss rod but he was unable to get the action playable. The finish was very rough in places almost like the wood was not sanded properly. To top it off, the knobs on the volume and tone controls are crooked. Huge disappointment over all. DO NOT BUY ONE OF THESE SIGHT UNSEEN.
Might want to add, Did you buy it new? Did you get it from a retail store like Guitar Center online or Sweetwater or was it a mom & pop shop online?
Quote from: selfdestroyer on March 05, 2015, 03:51:50 PM
Quote from: blearyeyes on March 05, 2015, 03:47:47 PM
Review of the Les Paul:
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Are these made in China?!
I bought one of these for my son who has been playing for about 5 years now. It was virtually unplayable as delivered. The action was so high and the neck had a major bow in it. His music teacher tried to adjust the truss rod but he was unable to get the action playable. The finish was very rough in places almost like the wood was not sanded properly. To top it off, the knobs on the volume and tone controls are crooked. Huge disappointment over all. DO NOT BUY ONE OF THESE SIGHT UNSEEN.
Might want to add, Did you buy it new? Did you get it from a retail store like Guitar Center online or Sweetwater or was it a mom & pop shop online?
That was from the future shop in the OP.
Quote from: blearyeyes on March 05, 2015, 03:47:47 PM
Review of the Les Paul:
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Are these made in China?!
I bought one of these for my son who has been playing for about 5 years now. It was virtually unplayable as delivered. The action was so high and the neck had a major bow in it. His music teacher tried to adjust the truss rod but he was unable to get the action playable. The finish was very rough in places almost like the wood was not sanded properly. To top it off, the knobs on the volume and tone controls are crooked. Huge disappointment over all. DO NOT BUY ONE OF THESE SIGHT UNSEEN.
My guess is that instead of a Les Paul he ended up getting a Liu Pol
Quote from: blearyeyes on March 05, 2015, 03:54:59 PM
Quote from: selfdestroyer on March 05, 2015, 03:51:50 PM
Quote from: blearyeyes on March 05, 2015, 03:47:47 PM
Review of the Les Paul:
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Are these made in China?!
I bought one of these for my son who has been playing for about 5 years now. It was virtually unplayable as delivered. The action was so high and the neck had a major bow in it. His music teacher tried to adjust the truss rod but he was unable to get the action playable. The finish was very rough in places almost like the wood was not sanded properly. To top it off, the knobs on the volume and tone controls are crooked. Huge disappointment over all. DO NOT BUY ONE OF THESE SIGHT UNSEEN.
Might want to add, Did you buy it new? Did you get it from a retail store like Guitar Center online or Sweetwater or was it a mom & pop shop online?
That was from the future shop in the OP.
Got it.. thanks.
Cody
I'm another lefty who play right handed guitars.
My first teacher also told my parents it would work out cheaper.
Not really sure if it makes any difference... But then again I've never really tried playing a lefty!
Quote from: blearyeyes on March 05, 2015, 03:47:47 PM
Review of the Les Paul:
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Are these made in China?!
I bought one of these for my son who has been playing for about 5 years now. It was virtually unplayable as delivered. The action was so high and the neck had a major bow in it. His music teacher tried to adjust the truss rod but he was unable to get the action playable. The finish was very rough in places almost like the wood was not sanded properly. To top it off, the knobs on the volume and tone controls are crooked. Huge disappointment over all. DO NOT BUY ONE OF THESE SIGHT UNSEEN.
That's really not all that uncommon with mail order, especially with cheaper guitars. Between bad storage conditions and inconsistent shipping conditions, things can even change a lot from when it was shipped to when it was received.
Whenever I get a guitar (especially if it's been shipped) I assume it's going to need a serious setup. If it's been in dry storage, it may need a side file. If the truss rod is non-functioning, that's a serious problem, but if it just needs a full setup, that's somewhat to be expected. Same deal with buying guitars off the rack from Guitar Center.
That's why I like getting guitars from the local dealer whenever possible. Everything that leaves the store gets a proper setup and they'll adjust it a second time if it shifts after acclimation at your house. They even did a proper setup on the cheap $120 Jay Turser pink sparkle acoustic I bought my daughter. Doing a free $45 setup on a $120 guitar isn't a great way to make money, but they understand the end goal is a customer that will buy more expensive guitars down the road.
Thats one thing I love about Sweetwater. Even my lowly Squier Classic Vibe strat was touched by their tech before it shipped. I have bought 4 guitars from them so far and each are playable the day I receive them. Now, the classic vibe needed a bit of fret work and the Jag I got needed action set to my liking but they were playable out of box.
Cody
Quote from: selfdestroyer on March 05, 2015, 05:57:05 PM
Thats one thing I love about Sweetwater. Even my lowly Squier Classic Vibe strat was touched by their tech before it shipped. I have bought 4 guitars from them so far and each are playable the day I receive them. Now, the classic vibe needed a bit of fret work and the Jag I got needed action set to my liking but they were playable out of box.
Cody
+1 on Sweetwater. Great customer service and the guitar arrived set up perfectly.
Seen too many clones on Alibaba from China that even had the made in the USA stamp serial numbers and Gibson logo.. Now days they are being a little more careful. You'll notice they don't let the headstock be photographed etc. some are playing it safer.. You can order whatever you want for dirt..I guess I'm just paranoid...
Quote from: blearyeyes on March 05, 2015, 03:47:47 PM
Review of the Les Paul:
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Are these made in China?!
I bought one of these for my son who has been playing for about 5 years now. It was virtually unplayable as delivered. The action was so high and the neck had a major bow in it. His music teacher tried to adjust the truss rod but he was unable to get the action playable. The finish was very rough in places almost like the wood was not sanded properly. To top it off, the knobs on the volume and tone controls are crooked. Huge disappointment over all. DO NOT BUY ONE OF THESE SIGHT UNSEEN.
Grain of salt time - Future Shop is the Canadian version of Best Buy (even though they both exist in Canada, and are owned by the same company). They're not a music store, they don't have techs, and the only bricks and mortar store I've ever seen that had guitars in it (beyond the $199 Affinity starter pack) didn't have anyone in the store that played. So you're getting a guitar from Gibson, shipped to Future Shop, where the box is never opened, just shipped to you, so you roll the dice on any Gibson QA issues. I fully expect to have to spend at least an hour or two of bench time on mine when it arrives.
Wish I had the money. That really is a steal. .
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Quote from: GermanCdn on March 06, 2015, 08:52:39 AM
Quote from: blearyeyes on March 05, 2015, 03:47:47 PM
Review of the Les Paul:
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Are these made in China?!
I bought one of these for my son who has been playing for about 5 years now. It was virtually unplayable as delivered. The action was so high and the neck had a major bow in it. His music teacher tried to adjust the truss rod but he was unable to get the action playable. The finish was very rough in places almost like the wood was not sanded properly. To top it off, the knobs on the volume and tone controls are crooked. Huge disappointment over all. DO NOT BUY ONE OF THESE SIGHT UNSEEN.
Grain of salt time - Future Shop is the Canadian version of Best Buy (even though they both exist in Canada, and are owned by the same company). They're not a music store, they don't have techs, and the only bricks and mortar store I've ever seen that had guitars in it (beyond the $199 Affinity starter pack) didn't have anyone in the store that played. So you're getting a guitar from Gibson, shipped to Future Shop, where the box is never opened, just shipped to you, so you roll the dice on any Gibson QA issues. I fully expect to have to spend at least an hour or two of bench time on mine when it arrives.
Ha - just got an email from future shop that they are canceling my order due to an error that said they had stock, but they actually don't...
Quote from: rumbletone on March 06, 2015, 04:15:07 PM
Ha - just got an email from future shop that they are canceling my order due to an error that said they had stock, but they actually don't...
Send a reply or call them and have them send you a certificate stating that they will honor the advertised price once they receive more stock. ;)
Looks like a discontinued item at Zzounds at least..
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on March 06, 2015, 04:17:27 PM
Quote from: rumbletone on March 06, 2015, 04:15:07 PM
Ha - just got an email from future shop that they are canceling my order due to an error that said they had stock, but they actually don't...
Send a reply or call them and have them send you a certificate stating that they will honor the advertised price once they receive more stock. ;)
I'd also do that!
Quote from: GrindCustoms on March 06, 2015, 05:23:25 PM
Quote from: Govmnt_Lacky on March 06, 2015, 04:17:27 PM
Quote from: rumbletone on March 06, 2015, 04:15:07 PM
Ha - just got an email from future shop that they are canceling my order due to an error that said they had stock, but they actually don't...
Send a reply or call them and have them send you a certificate stating that they will honor the advertised price once they receive more stock. ;)
I'd also do that!
There won't be more stock unless there are returns (the model has been long since discontinued, which I'm sure is why it's on sale).
My tracking email said it would be here on Monday...
Jacob
Quote from: jkokura on March 06, 2015, 08:39:00 PM
My tracking email said it would be here on Monday...
Jacob
Mine too.
Wish a red one was coming. They had the brown burst left when I ordered. I'm not super hopeful I'll love it at first, but after some tuning and breaking in I hope it turns awesome.
Looking for non-humming P90s as I type...
Jacob
Quote from: jkokura on March 06, 2015, 09:01:28 PM
Looking for non-humming P90s as I type...
Jacob
Time to hit up Timbo ;)
Quote from: jkokura on March 06, 2015, 09:01:28 PM
Wish a red one was coming. They had the brown burst left when I ordered. I'm not super hopeful I'll love it at first, but after some tuning and breaking in I hope it turns awesome.
Looking for non-humming P90s as I type...
Jacob
I know a couple of folks that tried the Fralins and ultimately took them out, so I'd probably not start there. But they were looking for something that sounded like a real P90. If you are looking for spent hung different, maybe they would work.
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So, after an almost surreal display of incompetence by Future Shop's online division, I started calling stores to find one. Eventually, one store (west van) said that they definitely didn't have the cherry in stock, but they had 2 in black and they'd hold one for me. Drove to the store last night (its over an hour round trip), got there half hour before closing. I walk into the store and see the musical instruments department at the back and head in that direction. When 30 feet away, I see the guitars on display, and what's literally the first guitar near the entrance?? The cherry SG!!! The only employee there immediately steps over to help me, I explain that the black is on hold for me even though I originally ordered and was still trying to find a cherry one, and he says "it's been there the whole time.... can't understand how my colleague you talked to earlier today didn't know it was there....". So, after all that I bought the cherry one.
I had much time to kill while they figured out some issue with their sales software, so I played the cherry and the black ones on display, and my initial impressions are that although the guitar was set up with quite high action, and with lighter strings than I normally use, they were quite impressive - they don't have the feeling of a Gibson with binding, but if you like the satin finish (which I do) they are really nice guitars, even at several times the price, and at $399 they blow away the epiphone SGs. Neck - as advertised - is a pretty chunky 50s style neck. The 24 frets is weird, especially on a '50s tribute', but didn't bother me from a playing perspective. Neck is straight, with no obvious issues, and the intonation was strangely good for an off the shelf Gibson (5 of the 6 strings were good up to the 24th fret - and I'm sure the 6th just needs a tweak of the saddle). The logo looks cheap, but whatever (doesn't affect playablility/tone). I didn't bother plugging it in, because it's unlikely I'll keep the stock pickups (I need noiseless...).
I've seen a Future Shop in my area, but I always planned to go in the next day...
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Quote from: jkokura on March 06, 2015, 09:01:28 PM
Wish a red one was coming. They had the brown burst left when I ordered. I'm not super hopeful I'll love it at first, but after some tuning and breaking in I hope it turns awesome.
Looking for non-humming P90s as I type...
Jacob
I know a couple of folks that tried the Fralins and ultimately took them out, so I'd probably not start there. But they were looking for something that sounded like a real P90. If you are looking for spent hung different, maybe they would work.
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Anybody tried the Kinman P90s? I like his noiseless tele set, but haven't tried the p90s.
I'll likely try some inexpensive Humbuckers-in-a-P90 type pickups in a while, but honestly I can't afford this guitar never mind replacement pickups.
I'm curious whether I'll wan't to replace the other hardware. I'm partial to good tuners, but the bridge will likely be fine with me.
Jacob
Quote from: jkokura on March 07, 2015, 04:55:43 PM
I'll likely try some inexpensive Humbuckers-in-a-P90 type pickups in a while, but honestly I can't afford this guitar never mind replacement pickups.
I'm curious whether I'll wan't to replace the other hardware. I'm partial to good tuners, but the bridge will likely be fine with me.
Jacob
The tuners seem very solid on mine. The pups are the only thing on the 'likely to change' list so far, and it's only due to the inherent noise - the tone itself is good. And I really like the satin finish.
Quote from: jkokura on March 07, 2015, 04:55:43 PM
I'll likely try some inexpensive Humbuckers-in-a-P90 type pickups in a while, but honestly I can't afford this guitar never mind replacement pickups.
I'm curious whether I'll wan't to replace the other hardware. I'm partial to good tuners, but the bridge will likely be fine with me.
Jacob
Have you considered Mini Humbuckers in the P-90 style ring?
Got it today.
This seems like it's a real, american Gibson. I'm impressed by the quality. Needs a shine and a setup, but it's really an enjoyable guitar so far.
Haven't plugged it in. Gonna do more research on pickyps after I've plugged it into my rig and A/Bed it against my Strat and tele and PRS SE Soapbar.
Jacob
Wow I'm jealous! Great deal. Happy for you guys up north!
So I got 20 minutes to do a good inspection of the guitar this morning. I still haven't plugged it in yet, but I took a closer look. Here are some notes:
- Neck Relief is perfect and the neck is straight. Impressed with the frets.
- Action is a little high on the bass strings, but perfect on the treble strings.
- Finish is very consistent, and there's no issues to be seen - interesting matte finish doesn't retain fingerprints easily
- The electronics are top notch. There's a little PCB in there, full size Gibson pots, and the connections/solder are all very good. Uses ceramic caps, but I guess I'm a snob about caps if I'm gonna complain about that.
- Real grovers with a nice action. One of them looks like it's installed a little crooked, but it might also be my mind looking for something not to like. It doesn't stay in tune super well, a little bending put it out, but that might be the strings, not the guitar itself.
- Super neck/headstock heavy! The body is very light, a little resonant, but the neck is pulling down a lot when you try and balance it. Haven't put a strap on it yet, so I'll see if it's better when I do.
- BEEFY neck. This big, thick neck is going to take some getting used to. I like slim/skinny D profiles generally, and this things like a big round bat. Not sure if I'll be able to live with it. It's bigger than my Epi Dot for sure, and I think that ones big.
Bottom line: Real Gibson quality for $399 plus tax. I'm a little stunned to be honest. It's not a Les Paul Custom, certainly a lower end model, but it's surprisingly good, and seems like it's been given the same good treatment at the factory as that Les Paul Custom would have received. This is MILES better than Epiphone, for maybe a few bucks less.
Jacob
Glad to hear Gibson are at least keeping a few happy!
That's a lot of US made guitar for the moolah.
Quote- Super neck/headstock heavy! The body is very light, a little resonant, but the neck is pulling down a lot when you try and balance it. Haven't put a strap on it yet, so I'll see if it's better when I do.
IME that's an SG thing, they're all top heavy.
Picked up mine at the post office a bit earlier this evening (along some other uBer goodness!).
Unpacked the guitar and found that the fit and finish was really nice, that satin/matte sealer feels really nice to me, love the touch feel of it really pleases me for the neck, shape/size is also right into my range, not a bassball bat, not shredder, just meaty.
Neck needed a bit of love, took me around 20minutes to do the complete setup on the guitar, once the neck was set i just had to fine tune the intonation of the GString as i like it a bit flatter than what it should be, now dead on.
Have'nt tried plugged yet, but acoustic it sounds great, good sustain through out the neck. Does't feel like it was made on a friday afternoon. Fret job is very nice nothing to fix there.
Will post pics of the guts and what not of it, i like the pcb setup that gibson uses, clever thing.
Rej
Mines sitting in a box at my office 600 miles away. Glad i paid for express 1 day shipping.......
Quote from: GermanCdn on March 17, 2015, 08:44:32 PM
Mines sitting in a box at my office 600 miles away. Glad i paid for express 1 day shipping.......
I knew it was going to come in as i was out...
Just played it through the MarkIV, very nice sounding guitar, nice attack from the P100.... though i'm not a big connaisseur of the P90 type of pickups, can't wait to try the custom set that are now ordered (thanks to Juan for taking care of that while i'm out ;) )
Quote from: GrindCustoms on March 17, 2015, 08:59:39 PM
Quote from: GermanCdn on March 17, 2015, 08:44:32 PM
Mines sitting in a box at my office 600 miles away. Glad i paid for express 1 day shipping.......
I knew it was going to come in as i was out...
Just played it through the MarkIV, very nice sounding guitar, nice attack from the P100.... though i'm not a big connaisseur of the P90 type of pickups, can't wait to try the custom set that are now ordered (thanks to Juan for taking care of that while i'm out ;) )
Really interested to see how these turn out...
I'm disappointing no one has posted a picture 5 pages in lol.
How am I supposed to stay angry with the fact that I am from the US and could not take advantage of this deal if there is no pictures being rubbed in my face?
On a serious note, I can't wait to see what everyone does to these. I would love some pickup choices and mod ideas for a project SG I have laying around with P90's.
Cody
I keep seeing references to P100s, but the specs say that these come with P90s. I would assume based on Jacob's hum post that they are P90s as the P100s are noise canceling. Can anybody confirm what's in there?
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It's weird, because the pickups seem to have 4 connectors coming into the control cavity. I'll put some more looking at it when I take the strings off eventually.
Jacob
Quote from: jkokura on March 18, 2015, 01:35:47 PM
It's weird, because the pickups seem to have 4 connectors coming into the control cavity. I'll put some more looking at it when I take the strings off eventually.
Jacob
Are they thicker than normal P90s? The P100s are quite a bit thicker than normal.
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His new pickups will have 4 wires but are single coil P-90's... Interesting customage is afoot.
I kept my 50's SG for about two weeks, never really warmed up to it so I traded it in for an iPad. I thought it was good for the price, but felt pretty standard for a ~$600 guitar. My Gretsch Electromatic ProJet and Fender Tele Deluxe (Mexican) both feel like better guitars to me.
Uh... these guitars were regularly $899. Are you saying you traded a $900 guitar for a $400 iPad?
Jacob
Quote from: jkokura on March 18, 2015, 03:51:45 PM
Uh... these guitars were regularly $899. Are you saying you traded a $900 guitar for a $400 iPad?
Jacob
Despite regularly being $899, I didn't get a single email about it when I posted it on Kijiji for $500, so I returned it to Best Buy. Like I said, I thought it was a nice enough guitar, but I greatly preferred the two Les Paul Junior's that I've owned over the SG. 90% of the time I play acoustic as of late, I definitely didn't need the SG, it was an impulse buy.
Quote from: pickdropper on March 18, 2015, 01:55:15 PM
Quote from: jkokura on March 18, 2015, 01:35:47 PM
It's weird, because the pickups seem to have 4 connectors coming into the control cavity. I'll put some more looking at it when I take the strings off eventually.
Jacob
Are they thicker than normal P90s? The P100s are quite a bit thicker than normal.
I'm pretty sure all of the 2014 and later guitars use the same 4-conductor wiring harness with quick connectors, regardless of pickup type. Just makes things more efficient if you can use the same PCB and connectors for everything. The P90S pickups in my Melody Maker have 4-conductor connectors, but I'm 99% sure only two of the wires are connected at the pickup end.
Quote from: pickdropper on March 18, 2015, 01:22:46 PM
I keep seeing references to P100s, but the specs say that these come with P90s. I would assume based on Jacob's hum post that they are P90s as the P100s are noise canceling. Can anybody confirm what's in there?
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Working on some stuff, when i'll be done i'll post complete picture set of it... still really digging that guitar, once setup.... it does sound great! the Cleans are fat, neck and bridge pickup are well balanced.
I'm quite sure it's P90s because the hum is quite present with mine even at very low gain setting on the amp or with fuzzyz and what not...
Going to change the string at the same time, so i'll pop the pickups out and i'm also changing the ceramic caps for something a bit more fancy... and adding treble bleed on both pickups volume.
For anybody in the US that's looking for these, Sam Ash has them for $550-570 depending on color. Not nearly as good as the Canadian deal, but still not to bad for a USA made Gibson. Of course, at that price point you can also get a 2014 Melody Maker which is a nice guitar, too.
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Started to take it apart, some strange and nice discoveries, i just copy/pasted my comments from my facebook post, so i might be repeating myself from posts above.... sorry but i'm lazy. ;)
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Wiring harness and pcb are nice, quality toggle and genuine Gibson pots, changing the jack for a Switchcraft, swapping the ceramic caps for something more fancy and adding treble bleed to both pickups Volume.
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Neck and bridge pickup where inverted in the slots, will now have to try them in both position to hear where it sounds best. Maybe there's a reason for it or just a QC fail.
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Some people thought it was using P100 because of the 4wire harness but no, only 2 conductor are used on each pickup.
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Loving those mounting plates, makes the whole thing easier and directly allow the use of mini-buckers with the other mounting threaded holes.
More in depth pics and comments to come!
That looks almost exactly like the cavity of my 2014 MM. Except the MM has film caps stock.
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh218/reverse_engineer/MM-03_zps8c435d05.jpg)
Yours have copper mojo trace goodness tho! :P
Still on the bench.... almost done doing the proper maintenance on it, the fretboard needed a bit of conditionning, fret polish and other normal stuff...
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Yeah, Rej pretty much nailed it. It's a great guitar for $400. Especially considering that's $400 Canadian, which is about the equivalent of $315 US right now.
Jacob
Quote from: jkokura on March 19, 2015, 03:23:33 PM
Yeah, Rej pretty much nailed it. It's a great guitar for $400. Especially considering that's $400 Canadian, which is about the equivalent of $315 US right now.
Jacob
Yeah, that's a steal.
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Well, once i've put the pickups in their respective spot or what it should be if the labelled heatshrinks on the leads are right....
It does'nt change a damn thing! hahahaha
Sounds the same as before.
For those who could be interested, i'll be selling the whole electronic setup of that guitar, control pcb, pickups, toggle switch, jack.... will likely be a drop in for any SG. Will put them up for sale once i received my new electronics wich should be within 2 weeks or so.
Rej
I think I'll be leaving my electronics alone, but I really think some Gibsom Mini-buckers are in order. It'll be a weird thing - 50's tribute SG with Les Paul Deluxe look and perhaps sound...
I'll probably need to change out the Truss Rod cover on mine.
Jacob
just to stir the waters: I discovered yesterday that lollar makes a goldfoil in a P90 case: http://www.lollarguitars.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=LGP&Product_Code=GoldFoilSoapBar
They are expensive though.
Yikes... I thought $250 for a set of PAF clones was rough...
Jacob
Quote from: jkokura on March 21, 2015, 06:10:27 PM
Yikes... I thought $250 for a set of PAF clones was rough...
Jacob
MojoPickups is a wiser choice (in my opinion, have tried some lollars but never the mojos).
150 pounds for the pair: http://www.mojopickups.co.uk/gold_foils.php
They do custom soapbar cases too, I think.
I want to put the humbuckers in a gibson-caster I'm planning for my more and more frequent slide gigs.
Yeah, humcanceling is a thing I pretty much require if I'm gonna put new pickups in a guitar. I think I'm looking at Mini-Humbuckers first.
Mojo pickups do look super cool though. Very cool indeed.
Jacob
I always wanted to try a pair of the BareKnuckle 'Pig 90
https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/main/pickups.php?cat=p90s&sub=p90s&pickup=pig_90 (https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/main/pickups.php?cat=p90s&sub=p90s&pickup=pig_90)
Bridge DC:
Magnet:
21.5KΩ *
Alnico V
Neck DC:
Magnet:
15KΩ *
Alnico V
*all DC resistances are approximate
Cody
Quote from: selfdestroyer on March 21, 2015, 06:47:17 PM
I always wanted to try a pair of the BareKnuckle 'Pig 90
https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/main/pickups.php?cat=p90s&sub=p90s&pickup=pig_90 (https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/main/pickups.php?cat=p90s&sub=p90s&pickup=pig_90)
Bridge DC:
Magnet:
21.5KΩ *
Alnico V
Neck DC:
Magnet:
15KΩ *
Alnico V
*all DC resistances are approximate
Cody
That's what i wanted to grab at first, but the outrageous amount of output in a single coil package apparently makes them very mushy.
I do have a Warpig humbucker from them tho... one Br0000000tal pickup that is!
Good to know Rej, thanks.
Cody
I had a little issue with this guitar that i just resolved the MacGyver way!
The pickups where a bit wiggly in the cavity, even if solidly attached to the mounting plate, that being threaded it still alows a bit of movement in the screw threads, not like in wood where you have it pressuring on the screw.
What was happening is that when i was touching the pickup or making it move in the cavity it would make a Tick, with delay on cleans it was unpleasant and same for high gain with noise gate as the tick would open the gate...
I simply used IC packaging foam and made a layer that is thicker than the space remaining under pickup when adjusted to height, that way it applies a bit of pressure under the pickup and keep it firmly in place. Ticking is no more.
I had seen that used in body mounted humbucker guitars and other stuff, but i thought i'd share.
Rej
I did that with my Cabronita -- the foam that the pickup came packaged in, in the space between pickup and body (to act as a spring.)
Soon to be Doomed! 8)
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Missed this. I've run or heard just about every BKP P90 and the sweet spots are the stock and the slightly overwound P91 (no idea what that is on the current branding). The P92 was too full on in most things and the Pig90 really only did sludgy stuff.
Those ASL's that Rej has on the way was a result of me talking with Ash about this. So the initial wind is a hot P90, hopefully like the P91. It has a tap there, then a continuing wind in a different gauge wire to hopefully go much hotter but not go mushy. Apparently the Rev BFG has this sort of thing made by a winder in the states. Really looking forward to what Rej thinks of them. I've got a few of Ash's pups and they've all been pretty damned special.
...............And Future Shop went out of business today. Half the stores closed immediately, the other half rebranded as Best Buys. Guess that explains the Gibson fire sale.
EDIT: Ignore me, repeating myself. ::)
Quote from: GermanCdn on March 28, 2015, 04:23:42 PM
...............And Future Shop went out of business today. Half the stores closed immediately, the other half rebranded as Best Buys. Guess that explains the Gibson fire sale.
Yeah saw that... though we don't have any local FutureShop here... but i went: Ooooooh Nooooo, no more Gibby sales!
...well... Maybe not! ;D
Quote from: GrindCustoms on March 29, 2015, 08:22:18 AM
Quote from: GermanCdn on March 28, 2015, 04:23:42 PM
...............And Future Shop went out of business today. Half the stores closed immediately, the other half rebranded as Best Buys. Guess that explains the Gibson fire sale.
Yeah saw that... though we don't have any local FutureShop here... but i went: Ooooooh Nooooo, no more Gibby sales!
...well... Maybe not! ;D
Actually, bestbuy.ca is still blowing out the P90 Gibbys (both LP and SG), in fact, they're cheaper than the Epis on their site.
Quote from: GermanCdn on March 29, 2015, 09:13:38 AM
Quote from: GrindCustoms on March 29, 2015, 08:22:18 AM
Quote from: GermanCdn on March 28, 2015, 04:23:42 PM
...............And Future Shop went out of business today. Half the stores closed immediately, the other half rebranded as Best Buys. Guess that explains the Gibson fire sale.
Yeah saw that... though we don't have any local FutureShop here... but i went: Ooooooh Nooooo, no more Gibby sales!
...well... Maybe not! ;D
Actually, bestbuy.ca is still blowing out the P90 Gibbys (both LP and SG), in fact, they're cheaper than the Epis on their site.
:o
I spoke too soon. They're sold out, though they've got the nice soft Gibson leather straps on clearance.
Quote from: GermanCdn on March 29, 2015, 09:19:04 AM
I spoke too soon. They're sold out, though they've got the nice soft Gibson leather straps on clearance.
Found them... still expensive even if in special... 70$ for a strap... I'll grab another Levys 2.5inch nylon... love those.