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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: lars on April 04, 2015, 12:24:47 AM

Title: Just Sayin - the soapbox thread part 2
Post by: lars on April 04, 2015, 12:24:47 AM
I decided to mention my hatred of mayonnaise. It's one of the few condiments that people just assume you want, without asking.
Nobody puts mustard all over everything.
Nobody puts relish all over everything.
But mayo is everywhere. It's almost impossible to get a burger in the U.S. or Canada without them slathering it all over, regardless of what the burger is called. Who puts mayo on a BBQ burger??? BBQ sauce IS the condiment; HELLO, doesn't need mayo.
And what really burns me is when they try to hide it in other flavors. That honey mustard...it's base component is mayonnaise. Honey mustard should be two things...honey and mustard. That's it. Why the mayo?
The menu says "special house sauce". Guaranteed it's just "flavored" mayonnaise.
You leave mayo out too long in the heat and it turns into poison. It was originally invented to mask the flavor of rotten food. Sounds great!
So yes, it overpowers whatever you put it on, and just turns it into mayonnaise...with a hint of something else. So why do people use it like its absolutely life necessary? I ask for something without the mayo, and every time people glitch out like I asked for a turkey sandwich without turkey. If I say I want a burger with no mayo, I get a patty and bun sans EVERYTHING else. They assume no mayo means, "oh, they don't want anything on it".

I think the government is putting some kind of mind control drugs in mayo or something....which is the main reason I hate it, because we are forced to eat it. Try it. Ask for no mayo, and people look at you like your body hasn't been snatched yet.
Title: Re: Just Sayin - the soapbox thread part 2
Post by: alanp on April 04, 2015, 01:11:57 AM
Must be a USA thing. When I grew up, mayonnaise was a salad dressing. In my  late teens, it became some sort of burger condiment (not in Mickey D's, though, which meant posh burgers... AKA not in my hometown, where in my suburb alone there were five fish and chip shops.)

I think the last time I had mayo was in a Mickey D chicken breakfast muffin. Before that, two months ago, the local Fish and Chip shop's Sea Dog. (I didn't know they had a bottle on the premises at all!)

I bet it's not an American thing, though. I'd be surprised if they put mayo on everything in Peru!
Title: Re: Just Sayin - the soapbox thread part 2
Post by: juansolo on April 04, 2015, 02:13:36 AM
I blame the Belgians for me liking mayo on chips...
Title: Re: Just Sayin - the soapbox thread part 2
Post by: GrindCustoms on April 04, 2015, 03:04:45 AM
Quote from: juansolo on April 04, 2015, 02:13:36 AM
I blame the Belgians for me liking mayo on chips...

Mayo or sour cream with Tabasco or RedHot mixed is bloody awesome on chips!  ;D
Title: Re: Just Sayin - the soapbox thread part 2
Post by: Jefe on April 04, 2015, 07:12:01 AM
I love mayonnaise. I recently switched to the Helmans made with olive oil in an effort to eat healthier. I can't eat a turkey sandwich without mayo, it's too dry. Ham sandwiches require mustard though. Mayo has no business being anywhere near ham.
Title: Re: Just Sayin - the soapbox thread part 2
Post by: RobA on April 04, 2015, 07:36:42 AM
Quote from: juansolo on April 04, 2015, 02:13:36 AM
I blame the Belgians for me liking mayo on chips...
I blame the English for the same. I was introduced to garlic mayo on chips at a little restaurant/pup place on the uni campus in Bristol. I generally hate mayo, but the combo was just incredible.

My real dislike of most things mayo comes from casseroles and such. It's lead me to my mayo rule. If something has mayo in it, it can't have more than four ingredients total.
Title: Re: Just Sayin - the soapbox thread part 2
Post by: culturejam on April 04, 2015, 07:44:52 AM
I like mayo, but a lot of places over-do it. It's a condiment, not a lubricant. ;)

I don't agree that mayo is a standard-issue condiment on burgers, though. Most places that I regularly frequent either have it on the side, or you have to ask for it to be put on. Most burgers at places I eat do not have any condiment applied, unless it is a specialty item.
Title: Re: Just Sayin - the soapbox thread part 2
Post by: lars on April 04, 2015, 08:41:12 AM
Quote from: culturejam on April 04, 2015, 07:44:52 AM
I like mayo, but a lot of places over-do it. It's a condiment, not a lubricant. ;)

I like in the movie undercover brother where he has a special hot sauce watch to spray foods that have been contaminated with mayo.
Title: Re: Just Sayin - the soapbox thread part 2
Post by: Muadzin on April 04, 2015, 09:10:19 AM
It's good for you!

Title: Re: Just Sayin - the soapbox thread part 2
Post by: davent on April 04, 2015, 10:59:17 AM
Quote from: juansolo on April 04, 2015, 02:13:36 AM
I blame the Belgians for me liking mayo on chips...

I have the Dutch to blame for that. The Belgian/Dutch version of mayo seems much richer, thicker then our standard issue Hellmanns, also yellow in colour. Now kick the mayo up with some Srirachi hot sauce, total blissed out fries/chips! Great little soup restaurant downtown in hipsterville serves up the best Belgian fries & mayo this side of the Atlantic and a daily-changing offering of soul satisfying soups, mandatory visits for my winter survival.
dave
Title: Re: Just Sayin - the soapbox thread part 2
Post by: micromegas on April 04, 2015, 11:03:44 AM
Quote from: GrindCustoms on April 04, 2015, 03:04:45 AM
Quote from: juansolo on April 04, 2015, 02:13:36 AM
I blame the Belgians for me liking mayo on chips...

Mayo or sour cream with Tabasco or RedHot mixed is bloody awesome on chips!  ;D
+1
we usually eat home made mayo in my house. you only need eggs, oil, salt and vinegar or lemon. It is quite different for the produced one but tasty.
Chips here are often served either with "salsa brava" (some kind of tomato spicy sauce with paprika) or "ali-oli" (the last one is similar to mayo, but with garlic... a lot of garlic). Look for recipes on google (there are a lot) and enjoy :)
Title: Re: Just Sayin - the soapbox thread part 2
Post by: Ettore_M on April 04, 2015, 01:56:17 PM
I too hate mayonnaise. Look, I love eggs. But I can't stand mayo.
Title: Re: Just Sayin - the soapbox thread part 2
Post by: davent on April 04, 2015, 03:02:08 PM
Quote from: micromegas on April 04, 2015, 11:03:44 AM
Quote from: GrindCustoms on April 04, 2015, 03:04:45 AM
Quote from: juansolo on April 04, 2015, 02:13:36 AM
I blame the Belgians for me liking mayo on chips...

Mayo or sour cream with Tabasco or RedHot mixed is bloody awesome on chips!  ;D
+1
we usually eat home made mayo in my house. you only need eggs, oil, salt and vinegar or lemon. It is quite different for the produced one but tasty.
Chips here are often served either with "salsa brava" (some kind of tomato spicy sauce with paprika) or "ali-oli" (the last one is similar to mayo, but with garlic... a lot of garlic). Look for recipes on google (there are a lot) and enjoy :)

Yes, we know it as aioli, garlicy goodness, fresh chopped basil makes an nice addition to it, great on grilled chicken.
Title: Re: Just Sayin - the soapbox thread part 2
Post by: pickdropper on April 04, 2015, 05:10:37 PM
Quote from: davent on April 04, 2015, 03:02:08 PM
Quote from: micromegas on April 04, 2015, 11:03:44 AM
Quote from: GrindCustoms on April 04, 2015, 03:04:45 AM
Quote from: juansolo on April 04, 2015, 02:13:36 AM
I blame the Belgians for me liking mayo on chips...

Mayo or sour cream with Tabasco or RedHot mixed is bloody awesome on chips!  ;D
+1
we usually eat home made mayo in my house. you only need eggs, oil, salt and vinegar or lemon. It is quite different for the produced one but tasty.
Chips here are often served either with "salsa brava" (some kind of tomato spicy sauce with paprika) or "ali-oli" (the last one is similar to mayo, but with garlic... a lot of garlic). Look for recipes on google (there are a lot) and enjoy :)

Yes, we know it as aioli, garlicy goodness, fresh chopped basil makes an nice addition to it, great on grilled chicken.

Aioli can be great.  A little bit of rosemary can be good in it as well.  My only gripe is when people put too much garlic in it, but I think I am in the minority with that opinion.

As far as mayo on burgers, I don't run into that very often (most places only put it on by request).  I do often find sandwich shops go a bit too heavy on the mayo.
Title: Re: Just Sayin - the soapbox thread part 2
Post by: GrindCustoms on April 04, 2015, 05:45:13 PM
Aioli, must get that!

Another spicy sauce or spice that i like is Kim-Chi, it's coreean and it have a godlike status in their society/beliefs... it's freaking good, Srirachi is also very good...

All those stuff in mayonaise or cream sour... :D
Title: Re: Just Sayin - the soapbox thread part 2
Post by: HKimball on April 04, 2015, 06:33:14 PM
What pisses me off is when people refer to mayonnaise as ailoi... It's not garlic aioli you pig it's flavored mayonnaise. Don't pretend it's healthy because it has an Italian sounding name.

Aside from that sriracha is great but really easy to make yourself and adjust the ingredients. I really like sriracha made with green jalapenos and carrots for example.

Chimichurri is also amazing. As is a good mustard sauce. I don't know how many people here have had a chance to try a good mustard style bbq sauce but it's far and away my favorite for pork, rice, French fries, you name it.
Title: Re: Just Sayin - the soapbox thread part 2
Post by: pickdropper on April 04, 2015, 07:04:01 PM
A real Aioli is more than just mayo with an extra flavor added.  I've had various quality Aioli sauces.  I haven't loved all of them but most seemed to be fair representations of what they were supposed to be.  Maybe I've just been lucky.

Title: Re: Just Sayin - the soapbox thread part 2
Post by: rullywowr on April 04, 2015, 08:08:14 PM
Reminded me of this clip at about 1:30
http://youtu.be/NS_ROi0iiZw
Title: Re: Just Sayin - the soapbox thread part 2
Post by: lars on April 04, 2015, 09:31:10 PM
Quote from: rullywowr on April 04, 2015, 08:08:14 PMReminded me of this clip at about 1:30
http://youtu.be/NS_ROi0iiZw
LOL! Samuel L's reaction is the epitome of how I feel about mayo. ;D
This is the only good mayonnaise IMHO:
*YouTube killed this video* (isn't the web great with all of it's broken links?)
Title: Re: Just Sayin - the soapbox thread part 2
Post by: micromegas on April 05, 2015, 02:58:27 AM
Quote from: HKimball on April 04, 2015, 06:33:14 PM
What pisses me off is when people refer to mayonnaise as ailoi... It's not garlic aioli you pig it's flavored mayonnaise. Don't pretend it's healthy because it has an Italian sounding name.

Aside from that sriracha is great but really easy to make yourself and adjust the ingredients. I really like sriracha made with green jalapenos and carrots for example.

Chimichurri is also amazing. As is a good mustard sauce. I don't know how many people here have had a chance to try a good mustard style bbq sauce but it's far and away my favorite for pork, rice, French fries, you name it.

Basic diy recipes:

mayonesse: eggs + oil + salt + [lemon or vinegar] you can then add many things: garlic, spices, mustard

ali-oli (spanish name, well, catalan name) or aioli (provençal name): garlic and oil and sometimes herbs like parsley or rosemary

Those are different recipes indeed.

Chimuchurri is awesome. Although it has its origins in South America (Argentina I think) it's a typicall sauce here in the north of Spain. I love the green one :) it is awesome with ribs but also with baked potatos alone.


Btw, where my father comes from, they do something they call "gazpacho blanco" (white gazpacho, doesn't have nothing to do with the typicall spanish gazpacho) with a mayoness that doesn't curdle and bread. I recommend it for all you mayo lovers.
Title: Re: Just Sayin - the soapbox thread part 2
Post by: lincolnic on April 05, 2015, 10:03:47 PM
I'm also gonna jump on the anti-mayonnaise bandwagon. I always thought I was the only one!
Title: Re: Just Sayin - the soapbox thread part 2
Post by: raulduke on April 06, 2015, 02:29:41 AM
A little bit of mayo on the side never did any harm.

It's standard issue with any chicken based burger IMO.