Anyone seen something like this before?
i think its a pretty sweet concept, saves space and wiring inside enclosure, sure ppl will argue that its negligible. But havent seen anything like this before thought id share.
(https://s20.postimg.org/vu1qch3nd/s_l500.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/vu1qch3nd/)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/3PDT-Foot-Switch-with-Blue-LED-Ring-Solder-Lugs-True-Bypass-BEST-QUALITY-/262785115427?hash=item3d2f36a523:g:4OwAAOSwt5hYZr3B
I ordered a couple just to check them out. I will update after I receive them.
while they really look good, I kind of don't like the idea of having no visual feedback while my foot is hiding the LED at the moment of switching
but it might not be that big of a deal
I ordered a few, too, to check them out. Looks interesting.
That's really awesome. I wonder how easy it would be to diy one.
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Quote from: jimilee on February 20, 2017, 09:14:15 AM
That's really awesome. I wonder how easy it would be to diy one.
I think the pcb wouldn't be hard. i think the ring lens is harder to do or aquire.
will be interesting to see if the 3pdt switches themselves are of any quality.
Quote from: m-Kresol on February 20, 2017, 10:08:04 AM
Quote from: jimilee on February 20, 2017, 09:14:15 AM
That's really awesome. I wonder how easy it would be to diy one.
I think the pcb wouldn't be hard. i think the ring lens is harder to do or aquire.
will be interesting to see if the 3pdt switches themselves are of any quality.
At 9 bucks per, I'd be slightly irritated with anything less.
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We shall soon see!
I saw these on alibaba, much cheaper than $9 each, and I think I'm going to start using them - at least in a build I have coming up.
I'm not sure where the 9 dollar amount came from. They are 6.67 on ebay.
Quote from: AntKnee on February 20, 2017, 08:43:21 PM
I'm not sure where the 9 dollar amount came from. They are 6.67 on ebay.
Shipping I saw was around 3.00
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Looks like you would need to drill and/or file out a notch to accommodate the LED ring connections.
So, it's equal work in my book. Novelty appeal only.
If you click on the listing there are multiple images, as far as DIY, anything is possilbe, but it seems the pcb is sort of inlayed, like the ring around the button is down a tad more than a regular 3pdt. I dont think it would require any custom drilling, as the pin headers look to me to be below where the base is that screws to enclosure. Price wise yea for 1 itd be about ten bucks, but with combined shipping theyd be 6.67 each plus shipping so if ur buying 10 then the shipping wouldnt really add much to the price of each. Even the cheapest of the cheap 3pdts ive gotten are like 3-4 bucks, let me know how it works, seems rare to find something that hasnt been done before on pedals, not to say no one has used these, just that im sure 9/10 ppl or more havent seen this method of having led indicator. I really like the idea, because its one less hole to drill and gives more room inside of pedal.
I think it's expensive for a switch but if you factor in the pcb and the lense, the price is ok. I might do a pcb myself for 2PDTs. should be easy, as only need a small pcb with a centred hole, 4 smd LEDs and 1-4 CLRs. For the lense, I'd drill a wider hole than necessary, fill it with envirotex and drill the centre leaving a ring, which will be illuminated afterwards.
Quote from: m-Kresol on February 21, 2017, 01:37:41 PM
I think it's expensive for a switch but if you factor in the pcb and the lense, the price is ok. I might do a pcb myself for 2PDTs. should be easy, as only need a small pcb with a centred hole, 4 smd LEDs and 1-4 CLRs. For the lense, I'd drill a wider hole than necessary, fill it with envirotex and drill the centre leaving a ring, which will be illuminated afterwards.
Thats a good idea.
Who's up for a group purchase @$2 each?
https://wholesaler.alibaba.com/product-detail/Daier-3PDT-foot-switch-illuminated-footswitch-_60594677575.html
Boom, I'm in.
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I'm in if we can get people from Europe. Hate drilling holes for leds. :D
I will take some more. I'm in.
Id be down, ima post a link but i found some better looking ones ,more color options, and also comes with colored aluminum cap.
http://m.made-in-china.com/product/Single-Color-LED-Footswitch-Colorful-Aluminum-Cap-Electric-Foot-Switch-PBS-24-302-KN1-808727955.html
These are bicolored and seem like a little sleeker looking. I like how the aluminum cap gives you a larger area for stomp. Im not real keen on copper color. I dont see anything about being able to get different colored cap. I think black would work best as far as color scheme, and prob wouldnt show grime as much. Anyway if you scroll down there are the bilcolored ones, and regular colored. Ill bookmark this thread as it wouldnt take but $100 bucks to do a group buy. Id prob get 5, as i hate dealing w LED and bezel and more drilling etc...
I've seen those large buttons around pretty cheap too. Great idea but Barefoot Buttons are crazy expensive.
Mine from the original post are supposed to be delivered tomorrow so we'll see how they look. My only real concern is the quality of the switch. The rest of it looks pretty straightforward. More of a novelty than anything else but I think they look pretty cool.
If the $2 group buy is a good quality switch I'd be up for a bunch. I'd be up for a $2 group buy for ANY quality 3pdt.
I've had to replace (3) 3pdts over the past year for a friend that I have built multiple pedals for. They were cheaper switches. I've determined to spend a little extra in hopes that I don't have to keep replacing switches...it's a nuasance. I've not had to replace any that I've purchased from smallbear. In fact, I'm considering a relay bypass with momentary switch!
I'd be concerned about the long term reliability of $2 switches
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If there is a group buy going on for $2 I might pick up a few (maybe 5) to check them out.
It's a cool idea. I wonder if the switches were crap if you could take off the board and lens and use it on a better stomp.
I guess the obvious down side is that if you have to drill a larger hole and the stomps are junk then it won't look as good with a decent stomp and a washer if the original one fails.
Got the switches but won't likely get a chance to get one wired up till tomorrow night. Here's a few shots of the actual switch. Action feels pretty solid, although it feels like a lower quality switch (not that I have a problem with that). Very little epoxy around the contacts. The board itself looks pretty slick.
(http://www.gordomusic.com/Madbean/Switch01.jpg)
It's cut into the top of the case and has a clear bezel over top of it. I think the hole is going to be considerably larger than a regular switch to get the top bezel to sit flush and allow the light thru.
(http://www.gordomusic.com/Madbean/Switch02.jpg)
Quote from: Willybomb on February 21, 2017, 03:22:32 PM
Who's up for a group purchase @$2 each?
https://wholesaler.alibaba.com/product-detail/Daier-3PDT-foot-switch-illuminated-footswitch-_60594677575.html
That is 2$ without shipping.
Add shipping and you are at 4$
Then shipping those switches to people.
Even funnier, I didn't see the $50 postage originally.
Still, $4 per switch isn't bad by Australian standards. If I was to buy 50 regular switches for $150 that's still a touch under online store prices and well under retail.
I usually buy the from random chinese sellers on ebay though around the $2 each mark.
gordo -
According to the eBay listing: These switches require an 11/16″ mounting hole for the plastic washer.
My 4 just arrived yesterday, but they won't make it into a project anytime soon. I have 2 builds in progress, both already drilled for standard stomps & LEDs.
FYI for my european companions: musikding stocks those switches now. Not quite cheap at 4.50/4.90€ depending on colour. They also stock those other 3PDTs with the bigger stomping area now.
https://www.musikding.de/Footswitches
OK, here's my first build using one. It's the ultra rare powder blue MXR Distortion II. Well, if it was 9vdc and the board was made by Rullywow...
First off, I retract my statement about the cheapness of the switch. The epoxy held up really well to soldering and it feels quite nice. These pictures don't do it much justice because the camera put a weird purple flare on it but they look very nice. Yes, the hole is a bit overly big but the top of the switch case sits flush up against the enclosure and the light ring butts up to that. Don't know that I'd want to jump on it, but am confident it would put up with as much abuse as any of my other switches.
This build was a disaster. I realized after I drilled the holes that there was NO WAY the jacks would fit so I "solved" the problem by pitching the board to clear the jacks. I layed out the enclosure to look like the original rather than take into account the board layout. Oh well, it ain't pretty but it works.
(http://www.gordomusic.com/Madbean/MXRDist2-01.jpg)
(http://www.gordomusic.com/Madbean/MXRDist2-02.jpg)
(http://www.gordomusic.com/Madbean/MXRDist2-03.jpg)
Quote from: drolo on February 20, 2017, 02:13:20 AM
while they really look good, I kind of don't like the idea of having no visual feedback while my foot is hiding the LED at the moment of switching
but it might not be that big of a deal
Mount one into the top of your shoe?
Had to post at least one smart ass remark...
I'm just getting around to checking mine out. They seem to be of good quality upon first inspection. They do have a chinese character on the side, not that it means anything, but they appear to be made in china. I'm not sure how I feel about the pre installed LED wire leads. They arent long enough to reach a 3pdt board or the solder lugs of the switch, so you have to replace or extend them.
Overall, though, it looks fine. I like the pics of your installation, gordo!
Working on a build with one of these now... I'm noticing right off that the threads are most likely not long enough for an enclosure with envirotex. As they are, they barely have enough to tighten with a bare enclosure.
Hey, gordo, did you use envirotex, or a clear coat?
Clear coat, but I'd bet you could pour with the ring in place and it would blend right it. Maybe even create a halo in the envirotex.
Just an update to link to my build using this switch.
http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=25159.msg244952#msg244952 (http://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=25159.msg244952#msg244952)