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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: thesameage on October 02, 2017, 04:17:08 AM

Title: Wiring diagram for older pedal switches w/ box jacks?
Post by: thesameage on October 02, 2017, 04:17:08 AM
Hi,

I'm fixing an old DOD 250. It's got one of those older switches with two prongs on one side and a single prong off of the other.  Can anyone tell me what this kind of switch is called and where I can find a wiring diagram for it?

One of these:
(https://medias.audiofanzine.com/images/normal/dod-250-overdrive-preamp-352494.jpg)
Title: Re: Wiring diagram for older pedal switches w/ box jacks?
Post by: somnif on October 02, 2017, 07:06:04 AM
Appears to be an SPDT stomp switch.
Title: Re: Wiring diagram for older pedal switches w/ box jacks?
Post by: flanagan0718 on October 02, 2017, 03:58:46 PM
Looks like the same switch that MXR used to use back in the day. I think the brand name of the switch is "Carling". They are SUPER expensive for some reason. You could use just a regular DPDT or 3PDT switch if you didn't want to spend $10 on a carling one.
Title: Re: Wiring diagram for older pedal switches w/ box jacks?
Post by: thesameage on October 02, 2017, 04:16:39 PM
I don't think that the switch is the problem.  It's so weird.  The wires from the switch to the board broke for the customer-- or he did a botched repair job. I took out the board, hooked it up to a tester and troubleshooted till I found a cold solder joint. Closed it up and it was fine.

Customer got it home and it didn't work in bypass and just had lout oscillations when the knobs were turned up... pretty  much no effect, just loud noise and then super loud noise.  Not sure what happened between my house and his, but I'm just going to make sure that all the wiring is correct and flowed properly.
Title: Re: Wiring diagram for older pedal switches w/ box jacks?
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on October 02, 2017, 05:19:49 PM
If my foggy memory recalls correctly.....

The way they used to wire those SPDT switches was to wire the Input jack to both the stomp AND the input to the PCB.

Then, they would wire the PCB output to another lug on the stomp and the Output jack to the last lug on the stomp.

This way, the Output jack could be switched between the Input jack -OR- the PCB output. Not true bypass as the PCB input can still weigh down the signal when you have the stromp in bypass mode.

P.S. I would replace that 3.5mm power jack with an enclosed type.
Title: Re: Wiring diagram for older pedal switches w/ box jacks?
Post by: thesameage on October 02, 2017, 05:35:16 PM
I'd like to true bypass it and switch out the jack but the customer doesn't want to commit to all that yet. I agree that that's he move.
Title: Re: Wiring diagram for older pedal switches w/ box jacks?
Post by: thesameage on October 04, 2017, 12:18:28 PM
I hooked he board directly up to my tester last night and it works perfectly. Looks like the switch is f'd. Gonna just replace that.
Title: Re: Wiring diagram for older pedal switches w/ box jacks?
Post by: brianq41369 on October 08, 2017, 12:56:47 AM
Yea +1 on Dpdt switch, the current switch won't turn it all the way off from audio chain. which is what they call a "tone sucker" dod 250 schematic is all over the internet, so not so hard to figure out in/out & ground connections, your friend will thank you in the end. I converted mine long ago, best thing I coulda done to it, otherwise it dulls up your sound bypassed. Good luck


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Title: Re: Wiring diagram for older pedal switches w/ box jacks?
Post by: thesameage on October 08, 2017, 01:00:20 AM
Thanks! Yeah...just need to replace it.
Title: Re: Wiring diagram for older pedal switches w/ box jacks?
Post by: brianq41369 on October 08, 2017, 01:11:42 AM
Here's a link to the switch diagram & converting to true bypass
http://www.geofex.com/article_folders/bypass/bypass.htm


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