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General => Open Discussion => Topic started by: chromesphere on March 14, 2018, 03:56:50 PM

Title: Worlds smallest op amp
Post by: chromesphere on March 14, 2018, 03:56:50 PM
Posting this because I know little about it spec wise (check the specs vs LM741) and thought it would make for an interesting conversation. 

I'm obviously not going to be 'firing up the solder iron' for one of these any time soon, don't sneeze!

http://www.ti.com/product/tlv9061?HQS=asc-amps-null-smallamps_2018-etxt-pf-tlv9061-wwe&DCM=yes
Title: Re: Worlds smallest op amp
Post by: madbean on March 14, 2018, 04:30:29 PM
Finally, I can design my dream project: 1,000 buffers in series.
Title: Re: Worlds smallest op amp
Post by: brianq41369 on March 14, 2018, 08:42:25 PM
Good one , you should be good n buffered? My glasses need glasses to see those......


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Title: Re: Worlds smallest op amp
Post by: somnif on March 14, 2018, 08:57:10 PM
Quote from: madbean on March 14, 2018, 04:30:29 PM
Finally, I can design my dream project: 1,000 buffers in series.

Or match a few thousand JFETs with them and make a Phase 90,000!

You can match four thousand JFETs right? ....Right?
Title: Re: Worlds smallest op amp
Post by: alanp on March 14, 2018, 09:12:10 PM
Prime candidate for your first pick and place contracted-out job, Brian.
Title: Re: Worlds smallest op amp
Post by: pickdropper on March 14, 2018, 09:58:17 PM
I would totally have fun soldering that.
Title: Re: Worlds smallest op amp
Post by: chromesphere on March 14, 2018, 10:24:10 PM
Not sure what application you would actually need something so small?

Hearing aid?
Wearable?
Walkman for a bullant?
Title: Re: Worlds smallest op amp
Post by: somnif on March 14, 2018, 10:42:35 PM
https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Texas-Instruments/PTLV9061IDPWR?qs=%2fha2pyFaduhXCG8fHFaXLsOfT72XyhXbuEnB734c2tc%3d

less than 23 cents a pop, assuming you buy a whole reel.

And TI seems to suggest the following:
•  Smart Phones and Wireless Handsets (ok, I can see that)
•  Gaming and Toys (uhhh...)
•  WLAN and Other PC Add-On Cards (yeah, limited foot print, makes sense)
•  TVs and Set-Top Boxes (...what?)
•  Wearable Electronics (I can just see people trying to hand solder these grains of sand for cosplay ridiculousness)
Title: Re: Worlds smallest op amp
Post by: Rockhorst on March 15, 2018, 12:56:30 AM
Add them to your favorite serial for some extra crunch in the morning...
Title: Re: Worlds smallest op amp
Post by: EBK on March 15, 2018, 02:44:28 AM
Quote from: alanp on March 14, 2018, 09:12:10 PM
Prime candidate for your first pick and place contracted-out job, Brian.
I was thinking that too. 

I would seriously buy a populated Kilobuffer board for the shear artistic value if it ever became a reality. Plus, it would be worth it to see if any people in the production chain figure out what you are up to. ;D

Title: Re: Worlds smallest op amp
Post by: 287m on March 15, 2018, 02:58:18 AM
this IC is good to make EMG-ish wannabe?
Title: Re: Worlds smallest op amp
Post by: somnif on March 15, 2018, 03:54:33 AM
You can use some equally minute capacitors! Presenting the 008004 package MLCC

(http://www.murata.com/~/media/webrenewal/about/newsroom/news/products/capacitor/2012/0905/0905_img0003.ashx?la=en)

(I think that is actually smaller than the on-die caps on early op amp chips, good lord)
Title: Re: Worlds smallest op amp
Post by: Govmnt_Lacky on March 15, 2018, 03:54:58 AM
Much like the original series Star Trek phaser is said to be the inspiration for the flip phone, it looks like the Zoolander mini-flip can be a reality as well!

(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2937866.1483730453!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/gallery_1200/ben-stiller-tiny-phone-zoolander.jpg)
Title: Re: Worlds smallest op amp
Post by: PariahBrothermann on March 15, 2018, 07:36:48 AM
In ear/personal distortion funtimes... This is insane! I can barely see the value of dip 8 ops without a magnifying glass  :o
Title: Re: Worlds smallest op amp
Post by: blearyeyes on March 15, 2018, 12:45:38 PM
Quote from: PariahBrothermann on March 15, 2018, 07:36:48 AM
In ear/personal distortion funtimes... This is insane! I can barely see the value of dip 8 ops without a magnifying glass  :o

My hand shakes a lot more than the size of that speck.


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Title: Re: Worlds smallest op amp
Post by: m-Kresol on March 15, 2018, 01:46:44 PM
Surface mount technology is spooky crazy. The fact that can manufacture fully functional parts at the scale of a few tenth of micrometers is freakin' impressive. Especially considering what these things are capable off. Just today I had a look at an IC from TI that was able to handle current rushes of 1.5A in a part taht was 2x3x0.6 mm or something. But wait, it does the 1.5 Amps twice since it obviously has two channels ;)