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Projects => Tech Help - Projects Page => Topic started by: Bluestrat on September 26, 2011, 05:59:48 AM

Title: External Bias Pot for Mangler
Post by: Bluestrat on September 26, 2011, 05:59:48 AM
Hi, I want to use an external bias knob for the Mangler. What kind of pot and rating should I use? Linear, Audio, Reverse? Thanks!
Title: Re: External Bias Pot for Mangler
Post by: mgwhit on September 26, 2011, 06:31:11 AM
If you intend to replace the on-board trimmer pot with an external pot, just use the same value (or as close as you can get).  The schematic uses a 20K linear, which is a difficult value to find, so I'd just use a 25K linear.  The BYOC ESV Fuzz uses a 25K linear trimmer, so that value should be just fine.

If you want to make a really precise bias adjustment, you could put a 10K trimmer in series with a 10K linear pot.  In a controlled environment (i.e. medium room temperature for the germanium transistors), set the external pot to 12:00, and then bias with the trimmer.  That way you can pretty much know that your external bias knob's 12:00 setting is ideal, and that you'll probably only have to do minor tweaks to the left or the right.
Title: Re: External Bias Pot for Mangler
Post by: Bluestrat on September 26, 2011, 07:27:37 AM
Hey, thanks for the really fast response. This is a great forum!

Let me take this a little further into a generic application. In general, when using a linear pot
to adjust bias what is the difference between using a 10k, 25k or 50k? Do higher values provide
a greater range or expand the accuracy of the biasing? Thanks!
Title: Re: External Bias Pot for Mangler
Post by: jkokura on September 26, 2011, 08:42:56 AM
Higher values make it harder to dial in.

Take the fuzz face as an example. If you put a bias trimmer in the power supply to Q1, it's likely going to be that you bias that transistor somewhere between 5K and 10K. Using a 10K trimmer, that means you have 50% of the trimmers rotation to use. If instead you use a 20k trimmer, you are now down to 25%, and with a 50K it's 10%. Do you see how it might be difficult to dial in exactly 8.35k on a 25k+ trimmer, while being easier with the 10K?

Jacob
Title: Re: External Bias Pot for Mangler
Post by: Bluestrat on September 26, 2011, 08:48:12 AM
Thanks Jkokura. That's exactly the info I need.  :D
Title: Re: External Bias Pot for Mangler
Post by: calciferspit on June 03, 2012, 09:56:47 PM
late hijack. what about the 20k W taper tube screamer tone pot? I think its weird path might be nice here. or are we better off with a 10k for the external bias pot. or 25k?